Bowl math

[Kolumbo]

Let's take a moment to reflect on our former conference foes Cincy, UCF, Houston and wish them a nice quiet holiday season.

 

[businesslawyer]

Miami isn’t. The ACC is. It was brazen predation and showed everyone the potential of it. In the ACC’s case it realky hasn’t worked out.

They did it for Football. They thought adding VT and Miami would put them on par with the SEC.

Adding BC is still really puzzling.

Miami demanded to go with Syracuse and BC, and the ACC acceded to their wishes. Miami’s student body at that time came mostly from the northeast, and to recruit students and entertain alumni it was important to them to play in the Northeast once a season.

Yes, Syracuse chickened out once the litigation and bad publicity started flying, but that’s why BC is in the ACC. It wasn’t that the ACC thought adding them was a wise move. It was just a price they were willing to pay to get Miami.

 

[Kolumbo]

He says that so he can appease FSU and Clemson as they are openly trying to leave because it's not a strong football conference. It's seen as a bball first conference and he needs to give off the appearance that he doesn't see it that way. It's another reason they won't add us in this current CR climate. If they are clinging on to FSU, there's no way adding us helps their cause of showing them they are legit about strengthening football over basketball.

We are so beyond a perfect fit for the conference it's ridiculous. The profile fits perfectly in every aspect, including geography which means nothing nowadays. Top tier bball, football that can become competitive but not dominant, strong Olympic sports, high academics. The only thing we have that's different than over half the conference is we're a state school but so is UVA, UNC, NC St, and FSU. It is mind numbing that these idiots can't get over themselves and do what should be done.

The ACC has 10 state schools, 8 privates including Notre Dame. Only 3 or 4 flagships, depending on how one wants to define flagship. Cal, UNC, UVA, Florida State maybe

 

[RSTuthill]

I actually think that we would be a good fit for the B1G as well. Almost all state schools of high caliber academically. And they play hockey.

 

[freescooter]

Add Clemson, Va Tech, and Cal.

And Georgia Tech.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

And Georgia Tech.

And, public Pitt, €&@$$ FSU, and £#*¥^ Louisville

 

[Rdkid]

Let's take a moment to reflect on our former conference foes Cincy, UCF, Houston and wish them a nice quiet holiday season.

Yormark better keep working on basketball, cuz B12 football ain’t cutting it. They are weaker than the ACC in its current form. Those teams are not additive - only BYU is.

 

[UConnJim]

Yormark better keep working on basketball, cuz B12 football ain’t cutting it. They are weaker than the ACC in its current form. Those teams are not additive - only BYU is.

If you look at TV ratings, the Big 12 has blown away the ACC this season. Sagarin rates the Big 12 as the 2nd best conference and the ACC the 4th best.

 

[Tdaley]

NICE

 

[BugsyCT]

Let's take a moment to reflect on our former conference foes Cincy, UCF, Houston and wish them a nice quiet holiday season.

Soak it up. They're still sitting in a better situation than we are conference-wise.

 

[storrsroars]

I have no rationale for this, but I'm getting a strong feeling we'll be facing Washington in our Bowl game even though nobody is predicting it.

Current predictions by outlet:
ESPN (Schlabach): Game Above v Miami (Ohio)
ESPN (Bonagura): Myrtle Beach v. NIU
247: Pinstripe v Pitt
Sporting News: Gasparilla v Arkansas
CBS/Palm: Boca Raton v UNC
College Football News: Game Above v Toledo
Athletic: Boca Raton v NIU

 

[Forte]

247 & CBS please

 

[UCFBfan]

Add Clemson, Va Tech, and Cal.

Completely forgot about Cal because, you know, they don't really fit the conference bill....never knew Clemson was a state school. Never heard of state schools have names that don't include the state anywhere. Wasn't sure about Va Tech or Ga Tech.

 

[CTBasketball]

I have no rationale for this, but I'm getting a strong feeling we'll be facing Washington in our Bowl game even though nobody is predicting it.

Current predictions by outlet:
ESPN (Schlabach): Game Above v Miami (Ohio)
ESPN (Bonagura): Myrtle Beach v. NIU
247: Pinstripe v Pitt
Sporting News: Gasparilla v Arkansas
CBS/Palm: Boca Raton v UNC
College Football News: Game Above v Toledo
Athletic: Boca Raton v NIU

Unless they send UConn west, I doubt they’d play Washington. They’re still tied to the old Pac 12 bowl games, which includes:

• Alamo Bowl v. Big 12
• Sun Bowl v. ACC
• Las Vegas Bowl v. SEC, Big Ten
• Los Angeles Bowl v. MWC
• Independence Bowl v. AAC

Cal (6-6), Colorado (9-3), Washington (6-6), USC (6-6), and Washington State (8-4) will likely fill those slots. Because the ACC and Big 12 are only getting 1 CFP team in each, AAC will fill all its slots, and MWC will too I could see not playing any Pac 12 teams.

 

[storrsroars]

Unless they send UConn west, I doubt they’d play Washington. They’re still tied to the old Pac 12 bowl games, which includes:

• Alamo Bowl v. Big 12
• Sun Bowl v. ACC
• Las Vegas Bowl v. SEC, Big Ten
• Los Angeles Bowl v. MWC
• Independence Bowl v. AAC

Cal (6-6), Colorado (9-3), Washington (6-6), USC (6-6), and Washington State (8-4) will likely fill those slots. Because the ACC and Big 12 are only getting 1 CFP team in each, AAC will fill all its slots, and MWC will too I could see not playing any Pac 12 teams.

I'm aware of the tie-ins and the math. Just a gut feeling that when the chaos settles, we're playing some 6-6 P4 team, not a friggin MAC team.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Completely forgot about Cal because, you know, they don't really fit the conference bill....never knew Clemson was a state school. Never heard of state schools have names that don't include the state anywhere. Wasn't sure about Va Tech or Ga Tech.

Rutgers says hello.

 

[GampelGladiator]

You know, every now and again, I have this thought exercise of "What would have happened if Miami never left the Big East?"

One could make a credible argument that Miami, and Miami alone, was responsible for all of conference realignment.

During their time in the Big East, they finished in the AP top 6 seven times in thirteen years, with two of those years being the AP #1 (they haven't finished AP top 6 since joining the ACC by the way).

They were truly the anchor program of the Big East, and the conference had a strong football brand (VA Tech under Beamer, West Virginia, etc). Losing the anchor is what started the dominoes to fall. Once the Big East started to crumble to make this contrived "P5", it was the beginning of the end for most major conferences (including the PAC12, apparently).

If Miami said no, I truly believe we wouldn't have the mess we have right now. The fact that they haven't finished in the top 5 since then is my only true consolation...

The biggest villains are the Big East catholic schools that turned down Penn State...

 

[cellocgg]

please tell me this was taken 10 minutes before tip

 

[businesslawyer]

The biggest villains are the Big East catholic schools that turned down Penn State...

It’s not that simple. Penn State was never willing to join the Big East for football on equal terms. It was never willing to split football monies equally. I’m not saying they should have been willing to, but this is not like the founders of the Big East didn’t consider and talk to Penn State. But taking PSU as a hoops only would have been the equivalent of a major conference taking UConn as a football only. How are we doing with that?

 

[huskymedic]

please tell me this was taken 10 minutes before tip

? Scoreboard sez there is 3:22 left in game and the score is 90-41

 

[cellocgg]

? Scoreboard sez there is 3:22 left in game and the score is 90-41

yikes on the attendance lol

 

[ninety-nine]

? Scoreboard sez there is 3:22 left in game and the score is 90-41

When I was listening to the radio broadcast, it sounded like people started leaving a little early, seeing as UConn was up 50.

 

[freescooter]

The ACC has 10 state schools, 8 privates including Notre Dame. Only 3 or 4 flagships, depending on how one wants to define flagship. Cal, UNC, UVA, Florida State maybe

Florida State is NOT a flagship. Florida is the flagship. FSU=NC State.

 

[GampelGladiator]

It’s not that simple. Penn State was never willing to join the Big East for football on equal terms. It was never willing to split football monies equally. I’m not saying they should have been willing to, but this is not like the founders of the Big East didn’t consider and talk to Penn State. But taking PSU as a hoops only would have been the equivalent of a major conference taking UConn as a football only. How are we doing with that?

It would have been advantageous to keep PSU out of Big Ten...or at least slow that down.

 

[uconnfan68]

Miami isn’t. The ACC is. It was brazen predation and showed everyone the potential of it. In the ACC’s case it realky hasn’t worked out.

They did it for Football. They thought adding VT and Miami would put them on par with the SEC.

Adding BC is still really puzzling.

But didn’t BCU bring the whole Northeast?