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rollskies said:
Well, Bouknight and Kai Jones have been recalled from Greensboro back to the NBA. That was short lived. Not entirely sure what the point of that was.

My best guess is they are just going to sit on the bench at tonight’s NBA game and be sent back to Greensboro tomorrow to play in the g league game.

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Kind of wacky but maybe they both just wanted great seats for the game tonight. :)
 
Yankees32123 said:
Have you heard of a fella named Andre Drummond?
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Again Drummond has made over 130 million in his career and is still playing. During his 12 year career he has averaged 14.4 points and 13.7 rebounds also he can still pull down 25 on occasions
 
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navery12 said:
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... Why did they even send them down? There have been no changes to injury status. Is this implying they sent them to Greensboro to practice for the day???
 
auror said:
... Why did they even send them down? There have been no changes to injury status. Is this implying they sent them to Greensboro to practice for the day???
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Yeah it happens semi-regularly with teams who's G-League teams are close by just to get guys the extra practice. The Knicks have done it a few times and will send guys to Westchester just to get a practice or game in and then call them back up after
 
Chief00 said:
Are you kidding? Andre is a historic NBA rebounder. A two time NBA All Star.
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Bouknight’s UConn career was better than Andre Drummond’s. The statement implied that Bouknight had the least accomplished college career of any UConn lottery pick. Drummond holds that distinction.
 
DCT said:
Again Drummond has made over 130 million in his career and is still playing. During his 12 year career he has averaged 14.4 points and 13.7 rebounds also he can still pull down 25 on occasions
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Again, Bouknight’s UConn career was better than Andre Drummond’s. The post implied Bouk had the worst college career of any UConn lottery pick.
 
Keep in mind that in any given year there are just under 4,500 division 1 basketball players that would love to be considered the worst lottery pick in any given school’s history.
 
Chief00 said:
Chief doesn’t have a comment on the above.

In the last two weeks his former coach publicly told him “don’t be a baby” and mentioned this year’s team is much, much closer than last year’s team.
Chief is hoping James jettisons his inexperience advisors (they have done enough of damage) and starts to listen again to true basketball people who have his best interest at heart.
As someone who has an eye for talent and talks regularly to some who do it for a living, James can have a very good career. He just needs to make some necessary changes.
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Can you source the Hurley quote that this years team is much much closer than last years? I may have missed this, but don’t recall it at all.
 
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MDHuskFan said:
Can you source the Hurley quote that this years team is much much closer than last years? I may have missed this, but don’t recall it at all.
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Abe1 said:
Where is Chief?! I’m now caught up on all the nonsense
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So this is the end game for your strategy? Does a player get permanently sent down to the G League, sent down and recalled or collects NBA DNP’s.
Chief wants UConn players to aspire to so much more than the “Abe1 Triangle” described above.
Respect the game, respect the team and do the grind. That’s the three legs to the stool that will support a great NBA career for James Bouknight.
 
Yankees32123 said:
Again, Bouknight’s UConn career was better than Andre Drummond’s. The post implied Bouk had the worst college career of any UConn lottery pick.
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Chief has been through the NCAA related suspensions for Coach Calhoun and Bouknight that season followed by various Calhoun health issues. Add in Alex O not adjusting to his new role. For all the above reasons, the team did not have the usual Calhoun trajectory. To lump all this onto a freshman, who decided on UConn a week before school, is more than a little unfair.
 
Bouknight had to take the money but another year becoming a better defender and more complete player under Hurley would have been beneficial IMO. He might have even enjoyed it. He’s going to get the same money over his career likely.
 
I think everyone agrees Bouknight was a future NBA player. Everyone agrees that in the current dopey “potential” system they use, if you are a lottery pick you go. Nobody here is disputing that. But what some of us think is in a more rational system, Bouknight would have stayed at least another season, developed his game and his body, then gone pro. That isn’t the system we have, so some guys will get drafted, make lots of money, and never really get much burn at the NBA level. They either won’t develop up to their potential or next year’s lottery pick will be better, or a Kevin Ollie type will come along and take their spot. That is the risk the player takes and the risk the team takes when you draft on potential rather than actual performance.

Now, lest people make the claim that I am anti-Bouknight, let me say I hope he has a great career. Just not against the Celtics:p But I thought he was too weak and not yet skilled enough to be an effective NBA guy after last year. His current situation doesn’t come as a shock, really. Maybe a g-league year does what a 3rd year at UConn would have. But for the record knowing he was going to be a lottery pick, staying was NOT a reasonable option.
 
freescooter said:
I think everyone agrees Bouknight was a future NBA player. Everyone agrees that in the current dopey “potential” system they use, if you are a lottery pick you go. Nobody here is disputing that. But what some of us think is in a more rational system, Bouknight would have stayed at least another season, developed his game and his body, then gone pro. That isn’t the system we have, so some guys will get drafted, make lots of money, and never really get much burn at the NBA level. They either won’t develop up to their potential or next year’s lottery pick will be better, or a Kevin Ollie type will come along and take their spot. That is the risk the player takes and the risk the team takes when you draft on potential rather than actual performance.

Now, lest people make the claim that I am anti-Bouknight, let me say I hope he has a great career. Just not against the Celtics:p But I thought he was too weak and not yet skilled enough to be an effective NBA guy after last year. His current situation doesn’t come as a shock, really. Maybe a g-league year does what a 3rd year at UConn would have. But for the record knowing he was going to be a lottery pick, staying was NOT a reasonable option.
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I don't think he's more likely to develop in college than the NBA, even if he's not getting a lot of burn. He has access to world class trainers and coaches, and can devote all his time to getting better at basketball instead of going to class. If he stayed another year and didn't develop, then he would lose out on the payday he did get.
 
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Rico444 said:
I don't think he's more likely to develop in college than the NBA, even if he's not getting a lot of burn. He has access to world class trainers and coaches, and can devote all his time to getting better at basketball instead of going to class. If he stayed another year and didn't develop, then he would lose out on the payday he did get.
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And a world class bench to sit on.
 
Rico444 said:
I don't think he's more likely to develop in college than the NBA, even if he's not getting a lot of burn. He has access to world class trainers and coaches, and can devote all his time to getting better at basketball instead of going to class. If he stayed another year and didn't develop, then he would lose out on the payday he did get.
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At UConn he would get a lot more support off the court. Pro teams treat their players like adults. It’s a business. There’s a great deal more hand holding and guidance in college. We even brought in that guy from OSU after his freshman incident.
 
Chief00 said:
At UConn he would get a lot more support off the court. Pro teams treat their players like adults. It’s a business. There’s a great deal more hand holding and guidance in college. We even brought in that guy from OSU after his freshman incident.
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They have to mature much faster. That is not necessarily a negative.
 
MDHuskFan said:
Can you source the Hurley quote that this years team is much much closer than last years? I may have missed this, but don’t recall it at all.
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This is the only quote that I've seen that alludes to that.

“The whole theme with the team has been, we should hit the ground running,” Hurley said. “Everyone is a year better, a year more mature as a player, and we expected to hit the ground running,” Hurley said. “We’ve got a lot of guys that, not withstanding the way the last 45:07 went, they believe in themselves and they’re a lot closer. This group is a lot closer and they understand how that chemistry’s got to be.”

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Chief00 said:
Chief has been through the NCAA related suspensions for Coach Calhoun and Bouknight that season followed by various Calhoun health issues. Add in Alex O not adjusting to his new role. For all the above reasons, the team did not have the usual Calhoun trajectory. To lump all this onto a freshman, who decided on UConn a week before school, is more than a little unfair.
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You’re lumping “cause” and “fault” together. The unbelievable lack of chemistry and cohesiveness in 11-12 was not Drummonds fault. He came in as he was — an incredibly talented but raw big. But did his presence “cause” the lack of chemistry and cohesiveness? Yes, it did. Two championship team starters — AO and Roscoe — quickly became dissatisfied with their roles and it went downhill from there.

Were there other factors that year as well? Yes, including ones you listed. Was it Drummonds fault? Heck no. He wasn’t responsible for JC being unable to sell overone their new rules. But, you will never convince me we wouldn’t have been better that season had Drummond not enrolled that fall.
 
jibsey said:
And a world class bench to sit on.
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Ok? Assuming he develops at least the same in the NBA, do you think he'd rather play for free than make the money he's making this year?

Chief00 said:
At UConn he would get a lot more support off the court. Pro teams treat their players like adults. It’s a business. There’s a great deal more hand holding and guidance in college. We even brought in that guy from OSU after his freshman incident.
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I don't agree that he would get more support off the court. He is still a valuable asset for the Hornets, even if he's not getting a ton of burn right now. I guarantee you that they have a plan to develop him.
 
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businesslawyer said:
You’re lumping “cause” and “fault” together. The unbelievable lack of chemistry and cohesiveness in 11-12 was not Drummonds fault. He came in as he was — an incredibly talented but raw big. But did his presence “cause” the lack of chemistry and cohesiveness? Yes, it did. Two championship team starters — AO and Roscoe — quickly became dissatisfied with their roles and it went downhill from there.

Were there other factors that year as well? Yes, including ones you listed. Was it Drummonds fault? Heck no. He wasn’t responsible for JC being unable to sell overone their new rules. But, you will never convince me we wouldn’t have been better that season had Drummond not enrolled that fall.
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Sorry my typo - meant to say suspensions of Calhoun and Boatright (not Bouknight).
I think Calhoun missing numerous games due to suspension and illness did prevent him from having enough opportunities to do the type of things you suggest. Would he have been successful? We will never know, but he was successful doing stuff like that other years. No doubt, this team and 2006 were perhaps Calhoun’s most underachieving teams. In 2006 the issue was we were short a ball handler due to AJ Price’s laptop situation and/or health issue as I recall.
 
Palatine said:
They have to mature much faster. That is not necessarily a negative.
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True, The League success story is maturing faster. The League blow-up, is not solving a foundational issue and having it blow up and effect everything. This can be high stakes risk. Another year in college is more methodical. How many of us truly grow up overnight? A process rather than a turn the switch attempt sometimes works better.
 
Bouknight finished with 30 points, 7 rebounds, and 3 assists. Led all scorers. Hornets other lottery pick, Kai Jones, was impressive as well. Swarm attempted to comeback from down 20 and fell short. CV had 13 points for the winning team.
 
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