Borges Scholarship Situation

[HuskyHawk]

Tough situation for the staff no doubt. How do you say no to a talent like Ntambwe? I mean if you're assure he can play immediately with a waiver it's a no brainer, throw out the need for a back up just play small at times with more talent on the floor. If he is slated to sit out a year still something to think about. I am sure the plan was to be very relevant again in 20-21 and that is starting to look achievable, this would help for sure.

But as said above there's a chance things could still be very good this coming year but they still need some help. Not sure what's available trumps what can be had for next year at this point though. This why they get paid the big bucks, decisions like this for sure. I'm all in with what the staff leans to, interesting to say the least now. Cole was a huge win whether AG stays or goes at this point. Backcourt is looking really good and explosive.

I think he’s being wildly overrated. He put up big scoring numbers on a bad team, but was very inefficient. Aside from rebounds and taking way more shots, he doesn’t look like a dramatic upgrade on Polley to me. Three point shooting is similar and Polley was more effective from 2. Ntambwe was better at getting to the line.

We are relevant right now in 19-20.

 

[auror]

I think he’s being wildly overrated. He put up big scoring numbers on a bad team, but was very inefficient. Aside from rebounds and taking way more shots, he doesn’t look like a dramatic upgrade on Polley to me. Three point shooting is similar and Polley was more effective from 2. Ntambwe was better at getting to the line.

We are relevant right now in 19-20.

Was not inefficient.

 

[UconnU]

Give me Ntambwe (sitting a year) + Whaley as backup over Issanza (immediately eligible) + Whaley as bench warmer. You can make it work for a year to make your roster significantly better moving forward.

My only concern is how much more losing will the fan base take? Another losing season could be disastrous for a AD already with money issues. Most fans do not follow the program closely enough to know that this appears to be a 2 year plan.

 

[superjohn]

I think he’s being wildly overrated. He put up big scoring numbers on a bad team, but was very inefficient. Aside from rebounds and taking way more shots, he doesn’t look like a dramatic upgrade on Polley to me. Three point shooting is similar and Polley was more effective from 2. Ntambwe was better at getting to the line.

We are relevant right now in 19-20.

Ntambwe is a lot better than Polley.

 

[Ewekon]

I understand you don't want to tie up another scholarship. But its not just going to be 10 minutes of someone standing out there. I'm all for Carlton taking a step forward next year but there will be games with foul trouble, just doesn't have it that day, gameplan where you will need a couple of guys to be adequate.

Carlton is not the answer on a top 5 team. Aren't we looking to get back there?

 

[3rdbass]

Carlton is not the answer on a top 5 team. Aren't we looking to get back there?

And Amidah Brimah or Jake Voskul were before? Come on! Besides Emeka Okafor UCONN hasn''t had this great Center that people want to brag about. Even Alex O. who was rated high didn't have a distinguished career at UCONN. We have been built around great guards and wing players. That will probably be our identity going forward.

Not sure why people are so down on Josh Carlton. He had a great year considering we had no big guys to take the pressure off him last year. He definitely has more post moves than what we are use to at the Center position. I guess people are down on him because he might not be athletic enough to play in the NBA. I feel that is silly.

 

[imno1]

We'll know we are back when Carlton is the backup C.

Carlton is a starting 5. He improved more than any other player on the team last season and gained a lot of confidence. I’m really looking forward to seeing him after another year with Sal. I expect him to be one of the better bigs in the AAC.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Was not inefficient.

41% from the field on very high volume is inefficient.

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The 5 boards are nice. His eFG% was 48.5%. Tyler was 54%. Tyler has a higher Ortg per 100 possessions. I’m not saying he’s better than Ntambwe. I’m saying it’s a lot closer than people think.

Joel doesn’t play a position of need, isn’t a star and can’t help next year.

 

[CallMeBruce]

Carlton is a starting 5. He improved more than any other player on the team last season and gained a lot of confidence. I’m really looking forward to seeing him after another year with Sal. I expect him to be one of the better bigs in the AAC.

Carlton was 7th in the AAC in PER, 17th in WS/40. On a rate basis, he was a more valuable player than Ntambwe despite playing a more difficult schedule. Carlton, but for his foul issues, is not going to be our problem next year.

 

[Rico444]

My only concern is how much more losing will the fan base take? Another losing season could be disastrous for a AD already with money issues. Most fans do not follow the program closely enough to know that this appears to be a 2 year plan.

I don't think the backup center is going to be the difference between this team being good or bad, especially since Carlton is probably going to be one of our two or three best players and should play the vast majority of the minutes each night when he's not in foul trouble.

 

[Ricker]

I do not think Coleman is a project big. All big players take a little time to work in as contributors, learn not to foul, etc. but I think he is a surefire contributor who can have the advantage of backup minutes now and step up as the future starter. I don't think we would be tying up a scholarship for 4 years on a marginal player. As I said in the thread about him, in 2016 he was projected to be an impact player at the highest level of D1 along with Delaire, and Akok.

 

[Ewekon]

And Amidah Brimah or Jake Voskul were before? Come on! Besides Emeka Okafor UCONN hasn''t had this great Center that people want to brag about. Even Alex O. who was rated high didn't have a distinguished career at UCONN. We have been built around great guards and wing players. That will probably be our identity going forward.

Not sure why people are so down on Josh Carlton. He had a great year considering we had no big guys to take the pressure off him last year. He definitely has more post moves than what we are use to at the Center position. I guess people are down on him because he might not be athletic enough to play in the NBA. I feel that is silly.

Carlton is a starting 5. He improved more than any other player on the team last season and gained a lot of confidence. I’m really looking forward to seeing him after another year with Sal. I expect him to be one of the better bigs in the AAC.

I hope you both are right. I really do. To my mind Jake was better. Josh improved no doubt. I want to eat crow on this one for sure. We shall see.

 

[Hey Adrien!]

Another factor in this: out of all positions in basketball, I think centers tend to have the most parity amongst projection out of high school and performance in the NCAA.

One example: look at the top centers in the '05 247 rankings: Skal Labissiere, Diamond Stone, Steven Zimmermann, Caleb Swanigan, Chance Comanche, Daniel Giddens, Tyler Davis. Out of that group, Swanigan is the only guy who had a truly impressive college career.

That same year you have guys like Fall, Carvacho, Alexander, Koumadje found much later in the rankings.

 

[imno1]

I hope you both are right. I really do. To my mind Jake was better. Josh improved no doubt. I want to eat crow on this one for sure. We shall see.

A difference of opinion but imo Josh was much better as a soph than Jake. Look for Carlton to come back stronger with a little jumper to add to his arsenal. He’s still only 20 with lots of upside.

 

[Jbirdp5]

Another factor in this: out of all positions in basketball, I think centers tend to have the most parity amongst projection out of high school and performance in the NCAA.

One example: look at the top centers in the '05 247 rankings: Skal Labissiere, Diamond Stone, Steven Zimmermann, Caleb Swanigan, Chance Comanche, Daniel Giddens, Tyler Davis. Out of that group, Swanigan is the only guy who had a truly impressive college career.

That same year you have guys like Fall, Carvacho, Alexander, Koumadje found much later in the rankings.

This might be the best point Ive seen when it comes to big men. Most of those guys were so highly touted and made little to no impact.

 

[Husky25]

Would you rather be average next year and good the following year, or medicore next year and potentially really good the following year? That's basically what it boils down to.

Hurley brought URI to the Round of 32 in 2018 will a roster set up to playing virtually positionless basketball. I will set my expectations at middle seed who does not playing on Tuesday or Wednesday for the NCAA Tournament.

 

[businesslawyer]

Carlton is not the answer on a top 5 team. Aren't we looking to get back there?

Yes. But you're not going from where we are to Top 5 in one step.

 

[CL82]

My only concern is how much more losing will the fan base take? Another losing season could be disastrous for a AD already with money issues. Most fans do not follow the program closely enough to know that this appears to be a 2 year plan.

I think we need a winning season at least this year to show progress. Getting the NCAAs would be great but I'm not sure we'll get there.

 

[auror]

41% from the field on very high volume is inefficient.

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The 5 boards are nice. His eFG% was 48.5%. Tyler was 54%. Tyler has a higher Ortg per 100 possessions. I’m not saying he’s better than Ntambwe. I’m saying it’s a lot closer than people think.

Joel doesn’t play a position of need, isn’t a star and can’t help next year.

You're looking at one part of his efficiency picture and declaring the picture bad. He had a 110 ORTG as a freshman, which would've been 4th on the team, and all 3 above him took significantly less shots than he did on his team (volume affects efficiency on a skill curve). And again, he was a freshman.

Pros
* 39% from 3.
* 75% from FT line.
* Drew almost 5 fouls a game.
* 12% turnover rate.

Cons
* 42% from 2.
* Low assist rate.

 

[HuskyHawk]

You're looking at one part of his efficiency picture and declaring the picture bad. He had a 110 ORTG as a freshman, which would've been 4th on the team, and all 3 above him took significantly less shots than he did on his team (volume affects efficiency on a skill curve). And again, he was a freshman.

Pros
* 39% from 3.
* 75% from FT line.
* Drew almost 5 fouls a game.
* 12% turnover rate.

Cons
* 42% from 2.
* Low assist rate.

Yeah, I saw that. Mentioned him drawing fouls. He’s better. The gap isn’t as wide as people think. And if he sits a year and Polley plays a year, the gap is closer to zero. Meanwhile he’s a PF, as is Akok.

He’s a nice looking player. Just not what we need right now.

 

[olehead]

You're looking at one part of his efficiency picture and declaring the picture bad. He had a 110 ORTG as a freshman, which would've been 4th on the team, and all 3 above him took significantly less shots than he did on his team (volume affects efficiency on a skill curve). And again, he was a freshman.

Pros
* 39% from 3.
* 75% from FT line.
* Drew almost 5 fouls a game.
* 12% turnover rate.

Cons
* 42% from 2.
* Low assist rate.

Auror's right on. Ntwambe ties to our history of long, Athletic guys w/ skill and versatility. Guys w/ length and strength w/ the ability to be coached are the guys Danny will be looking to bring in going forward.

 

[HawkHusky]

Ntwambe and Kuminga please.