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I thought Boatright was great: fearless going to the hole, hustled for loose balls, made a bunch of threes, and made great plays down the stretch to the bigs. He is going be a future star for our team. Let's hope the team can keep playing with a sense of urgency down the stretch and we finally can pull out some W's.
 
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I thought Boatright was great: fearless going to the hole, hustled for loose balls, made a bunch of threes, and made great plays down the stretch to the bigs. He is going be a future star for our team. Let's hope the team can keep playing with a sense of urgency down the stretch and we finally can pull out some W's.

Boat made shots in the first half to keep it from being in the 20's then he made plays in the 2nd half, penetrating and making things happen...........he was good.....he still needs to keep his guy in front of him more on defense as does Bazz......too much making our bigs help and they're awul at that!!
 
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we could have been down 30 if he did not start hitting threes.. had a great drive where he protected the ball with his body against the bigs. very kemba like
 
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If anything learned from this one, the minutes distribution was where it should be. Now as we head into March and the rotation trimming as it usually does, it should be these six guys getting all the minutes with anyone else just to spell. Neils, Tyler, Deandre should be nothing more than breather guys. Neils & Tyler are just too limited and Deandre is just far too on dimensional out there. That kid needs to add some value to the floor other than taking threes. This was the right group of players on the floor tonight.
 
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If anything learned from this one, the minutes distribution was where it should be. Now as we head into March and the rotation trimming as it usually does, it should be these six guys getting all the minutes with anyone else just to spell. Neils, Tyler, Deandre should be nothing more than breather guys. Neils & Tyler are just too limited and Deandre is just far too on dimensional out there. That kid needs to add some value to the floor other than taking threes. This was the right group of players on the floor tonight.

Agreed Ruff but the breather guys are Daniels and Olander. Giffey is a better choice than those 2 and is a positive on he court for us unlike those 2 who contribute nothing more than a turnover or a missed shot out there. Giffey is a better driver than those two guys, he is more athletic, and is a better defender.
 

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Boatright was largely responsible for the layup line to our basket. he plays too tight, too far from the basket, giving the opposing guards easy lanes to the hoop. I would like more giffey and more 2 guard instead of 3 guard.

Alex, Scoe, Giffey and Nappier are the best defenders on the team.
 
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I really, really hope Boatright sticks around for another couple years. Once he develops that mid-range game, watch out. Very, very similar to Kemba.
 
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Again, I fail to see it. He got a loose ball, made a terrible decision forcing the drive instead if pulling up, passed on an open 3 only to have a TO later in the possession, etc. Yes, he does hustle.

He's not good, but if your expectations are low enough I guess you can reach any conclusion you want.

Agreed Ruff but the breather guys are Daniels and Olander. Giffey is a better choice than those 2 and is a positive on he court for us unlike those 2 who contribute nothing more than a turnover or a missed shot out there. Giffey is a better driver than those two guys, he is more athletic, and is a better defender.
 
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Again, I fail to see it. He got a loose ball, made a terrible decision forcing the drive instead if pulling up, passed on an open 3 only to have a TO later in the possession, etc. Yes, he does hustle.

He's not good, but if your expectations are low enough I guess you can reach any conclusion you want.
I'm not a huge Giffey fan--I think the board is in love with him for a number of reasons not entirely related to his play.

But he had one poor play (what should have been a charge or blocking foul--lot of contact--but what was instead a blocked shot into a run-out), and a couple of good hustle plays, and a solid pass.

I'd start (especially while Bazz is injured) Boat-Lamb-Roscoe-AO-Drummond. While Bazz would be the first player off the bench for one of the 3 bigs, the next guy would be Giffey to see if he brings the energy. If he doesn't, he gets 2 minutes. If he does, 5-8. By and large, those five + Bazz should be getting the minutes, though.
 
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Again, I fail to see it. He got a loose ball, made a terrible decision forcing the drive instead if pulling up, passed on an open 3 only to have a TO later in the possession, etc. Yes, he does hustle.

He's not good, but if your expectations are low enough I guess you can reach any conclusion you want.

LOL you fail to see alot of things;). My expectations have always been none for Daniels and Olander as they are unable to contribute anything more than a turnover or a missed shot. Giffey is a better option than those 2, he is quicker, better defender, more athletic, has toughness, etc,etc. Giffey doesnt need to score because he is a positive energy and force in the game unlike those 2 and therefore should take both of their minutes.
 
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LOL you fail to see alot of things;). My expectations have always been none for Daniels and Olander as they are unable to contribute anything more than a turnover or a missed shot. Giffey is a better option than those 2, he is quicker, better defender, more athletic, has toughness, etc,etc. Giffey doesnt need to score because he is a positive energy and force in the game unlike those 2 and therefore should take both of their minutes.

They all have their spots in the game where a couple of minutes can be helpful. I know you only saw Deandre for missing 2 treys but on the other end he was long enough to effect Joseph for a while........Tyler had a couple of tough rebounds in 5 minutes which was half as many as a couple people who played 20 minutes more.........he is ineffective guarding people but so are all of the bigs.......if he makes a foul line jumper early he may get more minutes if not, less...........Giffey agree, somehow they need to find 10 minutes for him. He works harder than most, plays better defense and espite the lack of size makes plays. Guess I can't understand how anyone can see anything but typical "he can't hurt you and may make a three" minutes from this guy and every team needs a guy like him!
 

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I'd start (especially while Bazz is injured) Boat-Lamb-Roscoe-AO-Drummond. While Bazz would be the first player off the bench for one of the 3 bigs, the next guy would be Giffey to see if he brings the energy. If he doesn't, he gets 2 minutes. If he does, 5-8. By and large, those five + Bazz should be getting the minutes, though.

This was the team that started last night and Bazz had to be subbed in after about 2 minutes because the ball movement, passing was so poor. If we face a zone, this team cannot score. When I watched closely, the only player who was able to make the pass into the middle was Shabazz. Lamb and Boat passed the ball around and around, but did not get the ball into the opening. I think that AO and AD should not play together much against the zone and Roscoe should get most of his minutes at the 4. I would like to see Giffey get minutes starting early in the game and not bring him in at crunch time without getting into the flow ahead of time. He played with real aggression for the first time ever that I recall and he just has much better passing skills than the others at the 3. He can handle better than DD or RS. I liked the lineup that had both Roscoe and Giffey in at the same time, alternating Bazz and Boat some to get them a little rest.

Bottom line, we need someone besides Bazz who can pass the ball without turning it over. Giffey did make a bad choice in driving into the defender, but didn't Boat and Roscoe do the same thing? Finally, I will only reference the veiled suggestion about why people on the board like Giffey to say that he is in many ways the better athlete than and the better defender than DD. For me, it has nothing to do with race, which is what I assume you are suggesting.
 

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Giffey is a European player....the physical way that the game is called, here in the BE is not the natural way he knows. In his lifetime, outside of practice, there is only a small handfull of times that he does not either score or get to the line, with the decisions he made....

He played a strong, focussed and intense game, last night.

Giffey hat die Eier.
 
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I'm not a huge Giffey fan--I think the board is in love with him for a number of reasons not entirely related to his play.

But he had one poor play (what should have been a charge or blocking foul--lot of contact--but what was instead a blocked shot into a run-out), and a couple of good hustle plays, and a solid pass.

I'd start (especially while Bazz is injured) Boat-Lamb-Roscoe-AO-Drummond. While Bazz would be the first player off the bench for one of the 3 bigs, the next guy would be Giffey to see if he brings the energy. If he doesn't, he gets 2 minutes. If he does, 5-8. By and large, those five + Bazz should be getting the minutes, though.

Your suggesting that fans on the boneyard like Giffey because he is white is bogus and completely untrue. People like Giffey because he is a hardworker, he is strong, he plays tough defense(he smacked dion waiters on the dunk attempt and made him earn it), he moves better, he is a better passer, he is way more athletic than Daniels and Olander put together, and is just an overall better player than those 2. Olander can be serviceable when he is a senior and can turn out to be a Gavin Edwards maybe. Daniels UCONN career will be similar to Curtis Kelly's or Coombs-MCDaniels(not very long).
 
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Your suggesting that fans on the boneyard like Giffey because he is white is bogus and completely untrue. People like Giffey because he is a hardworker, he is strong, he plays tough defense(he smacked dion waiters on the dunk attempt and made him earn it), he moves better, he is a better passer, he is way more athletic than Daniels and Olander put together, and is just an overall better player than those 2. Olander can be serviceable when he is a senior and can turn out to be a Gavin Edwards maybe. Daniels UCONN career will be similar to Curtis Kelly's or Coombs-MCDaniels(not very long).

Be sure to copy and paste that last line as you have already typed it too often............nice thoughts on a husky player and much appreciated........the transfer talk typically comes from a**wipes so you know so spot on!!
 
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Daniels UCONN career will be similar to Curtis Kelly's or Coombs-MCDaniels(not very long).
Daniels has done or, more important in your comparison, said nothing to warrant this. I'm not sure why you dislike him so much. He's clearly more athletic than Giffey. At this stage, he doesn't fit with the offense very well.

But he is still averaging, across the board, higher numbers in every measurable stat than Giffey in only a few more minutes per game. I think that he can be a very strong contributor to this team going forward. Giffey's defense has been better than Daniels', so I can see a reason why Giffey can get more minutes. But Daniels has a brighter future, and so I didn't mind seeing him on the floor.

Coaches just need to give one of them more extended minutes so they can get comfortable with the rotation. This has taken too long, in my opinion. Too much shuffling.
 
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Daniels has done or, more important in your comparison, said nothing to warrant this. I'm not sure why you dislike him so much. He's clearly more athletic than Giffey. At this stage, he doesn't fit with the offense very well.

But he is still averaging, across the board, higher numbers in every measurable stat than Giffey in only a few more minutes per game. I think that he can be a very strong contributor to this team going forward. Giffey's defense has been better than Daniels', so I can see a reason why Giffey can get more minutes. But Daniels has a brighter future, and so I didn't mind seeing him on the floor.

Coaches just need to give one of them more extended minutes so they can get comfortable with the rotation. This has taken too long, in my opinion. Too much shuffling.

Well stated tzz.............
 
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I'm not a huge Giffey fan--I think the board is in love with him for a number of reasons not entirely related to his play.
Did you just make this a race issue?
Seriously? Did you just do that?
Or are you referring to the general appreciation of his stand up comedy routine?
 
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Both DD and NG are four year glue guy type of players, the type of players that championship teams need as juniors and seniors. Rashmel Jones, Donell Beverly, Albert Mouring, etc all fit this mold.

I see DD as a player for whom the game just comes way too fast right now. A year or two from now, with more experience and muscle, DD will learn how he fits in and he will be an important part of this program going forward.
 
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Did you just make this a race issue?
Seriously? Did you just do that?
Or are you referring to the general appreciation of his stand up comedy routine?
I really am not sure why most people love his play, hence I said:
tzznandrew said:
I'm not a huge Giffey fan--I think the board is in love with him for a number of reasons not entirely related to his play.

To take a guess: I'm not trying to impugn most people's judgment, but I generally think he doesn't do enough to justify the praise given. He's conservative on the court, he doesn't turn the ball over. I think people really like that. But that doesn't really justify the love because he doesn't produce. In this case, play may be the wrong word. The love doesn't match the production/results would have been better and more appropriate.

Do I think some people like him particularly because he is white? This will probably get me killed, but I'd bet money some fans like root for him a little extra because of that. That doesn't mean those fans don't like the rest of the team. My dad was like that. Huge UConn fan. His favorite players were Allen, El-Amin, Henefeld, Freeman among others. But he did always like it when there was a white kid on the team that got minutes and performed.

A lot of the talk about his "effort," his "bb IQ" and whatnot feels somewhat (likely unintentionally) coded to me, especially when contrasted with how willing some people are willing to call the rest of the players "lazy."

I'm sure now I'll get killed for this. Oh well.
 
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I really am not sure why most people love his play, hence I said:


To take a guess: I'm not trying to impugn most people's judgment, but I generally think he doesn't do enough to justify the praise given. He's conservative on the court, he doesn't turn the ball over. I think people really like that. But that doesn't really justify the love because he doesn't produce. In this case, play may be the wrong word. The love doesn't match the production/results would have been better and more appropriate.

Do I think some people like him particularly because he is white? This will probably get me killed, but I'd bet money some fans like root for him a little extra because of that. That doesn't mean those fans don't like the rest of the team. My dad was like that. Huge UConn fan. His favorite players were Allen, El-Amin, Henefeld, Freeman among others. But he did always like it when there was a white kid on the team that got minutes and performed.

A lot of the talk about his "effort," his "bb IQ" and whatnot feels somewhat (likely unintentionally) coded to me, especially when contrasted with how willing some people are willing to call the rest of the players "lazy."

I'm sure now I'll get killed for this. Oh well.

Of course some people root for him because he is white but the majority of us dont. He is just better than Daniels in every category which is why fans are saying that he should be taking Daniels minutes. Also, Giffey is a much better athlete than Daniels and olander put together. In what way is Daniels a better athlete he cant jump higher than Giffey, his quickness is just average, he cant create his own shot, he cant shoot. Our roatation is fine where its at right now with six guys we have playing starters minutes and Giffey as our 7th man thats it.
 
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