It would sicken me to see us still left out in the cold while the ACC mo-fo's are using MSG even if it's for every other year arrangement with the southern schools. We should be playing hoops in that building. PERIOD.If MSG could get out of their deal with the BE as a result of this all blowing up, and B1G is interested in getting it as their championship venue, adding UConn/Cuse sure wouldn't hurt..
Well, we always knew it would be the basketball schools that would get tired of the constant misdirection plays from the FB schools. I guess we can look forward to a "national all sports conference." Or are we looking at UConn being in a conference with
UMass
Buffalo
Temple
East Carolina
Memphis
USF
UCF
Cincinnati.
Exactly how many fronts does this war have?the uss connecticut has declared war on the bball schools, just becuase. we have always wanted them gone but we might as well bomb them on there way out. maybe we will let gtown go free...
Exactly how many fronts does this war have?
I would suggest joining them for bb, and playing in the NNNNBE for football only--but would the catholics want us? They'd know we'd leave at first opportunity...Exactly. It's messed up, but the tables may have turned. No we might need them more than they ever needed us.
I am a football first guy, but strategically we are screwed if we don't take measures to keep the basketball program in the best possible league in a conference tournament that is close to CT. If these guys leave and they somehow swipe MSG and we aren't involved then have really done disservice to the fans.
Anyone ever wonder how willing our fans will be to travel to a conference tourney in New Orleans, Memphis or Orlando? I don't want to know the answer to that question.
I would suggest joining them for bb, and playing in the NNNNBE for football only--but would the catholics want us? They'd know we'd leave at first opportunity...
Who has the rights to the Big East name? If the 7 schools exit the conference, will they each owe the $10 million exit fee?
well, i guess warde has a little bit more monitoring to do on his plate.
"Those schools are concerned about the defection of the core of the Big East basketball conference–Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Louisville and Notre Dame as well as the expansion of the conference in football to 12 teams and the inclusion of schools such as Central Florida, Memphis, SMU, Houston and Temple in basketball."
In truth, can you blame them? the money they're going to receive, maybe $1-3m is that going to be worth it when the extra travel is factored in? trips to texas, florida, for the privilege of playing smu, houston, ucf, usf?
that 1-3m figure represents 10% of the ad budgets of the catholic schools. for them, at some point it isn't about the tv revenue.
if they do split, and the fb schools stick around, uconn's bb conference becomes:
uconn/temple/memphis/ucf/usf/tulane
smu/houston/??fresno state??/colorado state?/ecu??
i usually am not pessimistic, but i can't see uconn's athletic budget of $64m ( the highest by far of any current big east school, or new entrant) being sustained.
warde manuel and susan herbst. what a heavy burden to bear for two people, but that burden is rightfully placed, and i hope that their talents and efforts make us soon call them exceptional leaders. we have played games here, conjuring the most fancy of scenarios, some are rooted in logic, some in conspiracy, others hope. in the end, we as a fanbase are powerless to change things.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."–George Patton
i sure hope herbst has delany's ear about what a great leader patton was.
And that would depend on how many votes of the existing members are necessary to dissolve the conference. I imagine this was a topic of discussion among the basketball schools.Not if they vote to dissolve the conference.
Blowing up...
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...tball-members-meet-discuss-possible-breakaway
Note $$$ amount difference from above article. ($80m v.$60m)
Brett McMurphy (@McMurphyESPN)
12/11/12, 12:25 AM
If Big East gets $80M TV deal, hoop schools would get less $ than currently do RT @AlexOPunk: @McMurphyESPN @espn do they not like money?
Brett McMurphy (@McMurphyESPN)
12/11/12, 12:27 AM
Source told @ESPNAndyKatz MSG may get out of Big East tourney deal if league continues changing membership
Edit add...
Brett McMurphy (@McMurphyESPN)
12/11/12, 12:32 AM
Big East source: "Basketball schools not thrilled w/Tulane & what they will do to lRPI. They would have fallen off ledge if we added ECU"
Wow. It would be a good league on its own, but do they really think that they would thrive without having UConn, Cincy, Memphis, Temple, and UCF in the league??? I think they need those schools now more than ever, because I'm not confident that the "Catholic A-10" would even get the same money as they are getting in the current contract, much less more money...
Exactly how many fronts does this war have?
Who has the rights to the Big East name? If the 7 schools exit the conference, will they each owe the $10 million exit fee?
I wrote on the basketball board that UConn should be in contact with BYU and Boise and Cincy about a loose conference where everyone sells their own TV rights.
Those 4 schools are likely better off selling their own rights than sharing them with bb-only schools or football schools such as Tulane and such.
For UConn, this would mean negotiating a deal with SNY and ESPN.
One of the things that confounds me about Aresco is that he keeps adding football schools. At this stage, they should simply strive to keep the league small, 9 or 10 members tops, and if you do that, you can actually remain viable for a good period of time. There are at least 9 decent schools out there for such a conference:
UConn
Cincy
USF
UCF
Boise St.
BYU
SMU
Navy
Air Force
Add Temple or Houston or San Diego St. if you must, but I wouldn't.
I wrote on the basketball board that UConn should be in contact with BYU and Boise and Cincy about a loose conference where everyone sells their own TV rights.
Those 4 schools are likely better off selling their own rights than sharing them with bb-only schools or football schools such as Tulane and such.
For UConn, this would mean negotiating a deal with SNY and ESPN.
One of the things that confounds me about Aresco is that he keeps adding football schools. At this stage, they should simply strive to keep the league small, 9 or 10 members tops, and if you do that, you can actually remain viable for a good period of time. There are at least 9 decent schools out there for such a conference:
UConn
Cincy
USF
UCF
Boise St.
BYU
SMU
Navy
Air Force
Add Temple or Houston or San Diego St. if you must, but I wouldn't.
The new football members (online fans anyway) seem hell-bent to stage a poorly attended BE championship game so keep casting the nets for crappy football programs. I find it hard to believe that the basketball schools are alarmed by the addition of Tulane, and the football schools were actually for it.I wrote on the basketball board that UConn should be in contact with BYU and Boise and Cincy about a loose conference where everyone sells their own TV rights.
Those 4 schools are likely better off selling their own rights than sharing them with bb-only schools or football schools such as Tulane and such.
For UConn, this would mean negotiating a deal with SNY and ESPN.
One of the things that confounds me about Aresco is that he keeps adding football schools. At this stage, they should simply strive to keep the league small, 9 or 10 members tops, and if you do that, you can actually remain viable for a good period of time. There are at least 9 decent schools out there for such a conference:
UConn
Cincy
USF
UCF
Boise St.
BYU
SMU
Navy
Air Force
Add Temple or Houston or San Diego St. if you must, but I wouldn't.