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Bill Murray’s Son, Luke, Is a College Basketball Coaching Candidate North Carolina State

NC State is an excellent basketball gig. Highly doubtful Murray is getting this as his first HC job.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
NC State would be an excellent first gig. I hope he stays, but if they offer, he almost has to take it.
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Terrible right now. Coach ran out the door even under investigation. ACC champs + Final 4<NIL. They have no money. No interest from any recruits. Our guys are either waiting their turn at UConn or going to a blue blood.
 
bendm said:
No aspiring coach with balls is choosing to go to a mid major over NC St
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Seems like most of the great coaches started someplace less fancy, honed their craft then took the big job and crushed it.
 
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Palatine said:
I know the won a title but it is a very hard job. A dead end for virtually everyone who coached there.
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He would have to last that long, but UVA is going to be called up to the B1G leagues while NC State is going to be stuck in AAACC. That prospect might free up some additional capital to invest in DMV prospects (it isn't as if the university's athletic performance demands inclusion in a super conference, outside of women's swimming).
 
storrsroars said:
FTA:


I admit to not knowing everything that went into firing Keatts, but damn... dude just went to the FF last year. I think that's like a textbook definition of "fickle".
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NC State was 15-15 entering the 2024 ACC Tournament and would not have made the NCAAs without winning it. The Final Four quite literally saved his job.
 
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bendm said:
That was before revenue sharing. Midmajors are toast. I’m worried the BE is toast.
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A10 is a decent basketball league and VCU has good fan support/revenue and no football. I think they'll have similar NIL to NC State for basketball players. They've pledged to spend 400k on average per player to its roster. NC State will have roughly 3 million for basketball revenue sharing (plus whatever other NIL still exists on top), which will probably work out to a similar number.
 
auror said:
A10 is a decent basketball league and VCU has good fan support/revenue and no football. I think they'll have similar NIL to NC State for basketball players. They've pledged to spend 400k on average per player to its roster. NC State will have roughly 3 million for basketball revenue sharing (plus whatever other NIL still exists on top), which will probably work out to a similar number.
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400k per player to play in the A10 is crazy. It's just funny money now. If this were a real market, the bottom would fall out soon
 
Palatine said:
I know the won a title but it is a very hard job. A dead end for virtually everyone who coached there.
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That may be overly harsh. Since 1980 there are 8+ years for 4 different coaches with 11+ for Terry Holland and Tony Bennett who each had significant NCAA success. It is a place you can win, maybe not a very top job but right on the outside of that and a proven place where you can compete for national championships. It is a state school with resources and not Texas where you are always 2nd banana to football. Plus obviously a great school, super nice place to live.

I'd re-characterize to say UVA is much more a beautiful cul-de-sac
 
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UCFan1513 said:
400k per player to play in the A10 is crazy. It's just funny money now. If this were a real market, the bottom would fall out soon
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When you think about the top NBA players earning 50 million a year, 400k is less than 1% of that. If a C suite person in your company makes 500k, then the equivalent of the VCU salary would be 4k a year.
 
superjohn said:
How is this at all relevant?
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I had the same question. There's only a handful of people on Earth talented enough to make $50 million a year playing basketball. It's one of the few examples where a salary that high is justified these days.
 
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yungdowork said:
I know he's got some baggage but McNeese has gone 36-2 in conference since he got hired. They were 10-22 in the two seasons prior to him getting there.
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No way Wade or any other good coach is going to stay at McNeese long. The consumate stepping stone school.
 
bendm said:
How many programs outside the blue bloods haven’t had 5 or more coaches in the last 35 years? With Luke, NC State has the potential to become the third best program in the ACC behind UNC/Duke. A job outside the P4 is not appealing anymore with NIL and revenue sharing about to start. Getting NC state as your first HC gig is a home run for anybody.
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Ncsu has no nil set up. It will take time. That was a major point the coach made on his way out this week.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
I disagree.

I get the program has been inconsistent, but NC State would be an incredible first landing spot for any first-time head coach.
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I tend to disagree.

To be successful over the long haul today you need to know how to manage a program and a key part of that is your ability to assess each player's skills and mindset and figure out how to make them successful and keep them happy (with the added pressures of NIL and, soon to be implemented, Revenue Sharing) while satisfying the fans, the AD and the players and their families. It's easy to do in your mind, but it's not so easy when it's all on you.

It seems to me the vast majority of coaches who have been successful and had long tenures at major programs developed their coaching and, perhaps more importantly, their management skills at lower level programs. They made mistakes, and learned from them, and grew into their roles. JC is a great example.

Boeheim and Roy Williams would be two examples of coaches who stepped right into the head coaching position of a major program with no head coaching experience, but they began in a much different era and didn't face the kind of pressure to win that coaches face today AND they didn't have all the intricacies of NIL, soon to be Revenue Sharing, and annual transfers into and out of their programs.

Jay Wright and Tony Bennett saw it coming and got out.
One way to look at all the pressure today is you'll make so much money on a well negotiated five to seven year first contract that you're set for life even if it doesn't work out.
 
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I’d be shocked if Murray ended up there….They know will wade can coach…no one knows if an assistant can make the leap. Murray has been carrying Hurleys bags.
his shot might not be at a big time school,,,that is what the MVC, MAAC etc are for. Cut your teeth there then go big time. Not the ACC. .hey NC State tolerated the talented but rule averse valvano….wade’s transgressions are encouraged now.
 
I caught a few minutes of "The Other Hurley" this morning. I got a chuckle out of a clip from Wagner where Danny and Bobby were both going into histrionics over a play while Luke was just sitting in his chair laughing at the spectacle.
 
storrsroars said:
I caught a few minutes of "The Other Hurley" this morning. I got a chuckle out of a clip from Wagner where Danny and Bobby were both going into histrionics over a play while Luke was just sitting in his chair laughing at the spectacle.
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That was funny - caught that. Andrea calling him useless outside of coaching was also hysterical.
 
I’m incredibly surprised that none of our coaches have been poached yet.
 
Is this the Coaching Carousel thread?

Darian DeVries to Indiana. Probably means Ben McCollum to Iowa (or maybe now West Virginia).
 
TyroneShoo said:
I’d be shocked if Murray ended up there….They know will wade can coach…no one knows if an assistant can make the leap. Murray has been carrying Hurleys bags.
his shot might not be at a big time school,,,that is what the MVC, MAAC etc are for. Cut your teeth there then go big time. Not the ACC.
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Fair enough but Jai Lucas just took the Miami job.
 
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