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WestHartHusk said:
I know, but I am just refuting John and IrishLoop who argue that "basketball no longer matters."
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I was exaggerating for effect, but the truth is (unfortunately), football drives the realignment bus.
 
Basketball does matter but Football is king. Make no mistake if Uconn had a top 25 football program we`d already be in the ACC or B1G. No its not the only deciding factor but its a pretty big reason why we`re sitting in the AAC. Itll be interesting to see what happens if we win the tournament. I think that might hurt our chances. Think about it if your in the ACC or the B1G do you want the basketball juggernaut that is uconn to have to deal with year in and year out? We`re uconn fans so we want them in but if your a duke,unc,michigan,msu,osu etc. and you find out uconn is in your conference your elated when it comes to football but i can hear a collective grown from the basketball programs and definitely the fans.
 
If there are serious talks of 70 or so teams breaking off and creating their own mens and womens basketball tournaments in addition to football playoff, than UConn will become a lot more valuable than it currently is. As stated before, the NCAA collects the money from the tournament, so our basketball teams generate much less value than a good football team. that will change if the conferences that break off then get the money.
 
TheChamps990411 said:
Basketball does matter but Football is king. Make no mistake if Uconn had a top 25 football program we`d already be in the ACC or B1G. No its not the only deciding factor but its a pretty big reason why we`re sitting in the AAC. Itll be interesting to see what happens if we win the tournament. I think that might hurt our chances. Think about it if your in the ACC or the B1G do you want the basketball juggernaut that is uconn to have to deal with year in and year out? We`re uconn fans so we want them in but if your a duke,unc,michigan,msu,osu etc. and you find out uconn is in your conference your elated when it comes to football but i can hear a collective grown from the basketball programs and definitely the fans.
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I reject this whole argument. Were we groaning when teams like Louisville and West Virginia and Michigan came to play us in football? Have we ever been elated to play Depaul or USF or East Carolina in basketball even though we knew they would be wins? Fans want their teams to play good teams. Any school in the BiG would love the prospect of playing UConn in basketball each year.
 
The 3-5 Year B1G Plan:

- restore MBB as an elite program post APR and post Calhoun: Check;
- show significant presence in NYC: Pending this weekend and Yankee Stadium football versus Army;
- become competitive in football again: In-progress;
- get closer to AAU: In-progress
 
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The schools you mention would have no problem with us in their conference if it means more cash $$.
TheChamps990411 said:
Basketball does matter but Football is king. Make no mistake if Uconn had a top 25 football program we`d already be in the ACC or B1G. No its not the only deciding factor but its a pretty big reason why we`re sitting in the AAC. Itll be interesting to see what happens if we win the tournament. I think that might hurt our chances. Think about it if your in the ACC or the B1G do you want the basketball juggernaut that is uconn to have to deal with year in and year out? We`re uconn fans so we want them in but if your a duke,unc,michigan,msu,osu etc. and you find out uconn is in your conference your elated when it comes to football but i can hear a collective grown from the basketball programs and definitely the fans.[/quote
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TheChamps990411 said:
Basketball does matter but Football is king. Make no mistake if Uconn had a top 25 football program we`d already be in the ACC or B1G. No its not the only deciding factor but its a pretty big reason why we`re sitting in the AAC. Itll be interesting to see what happens if we win the tournament. I think that might hurt our chances. Think about it if your in the ACC or the B1G do you want the basketball juggernaut that is uconn to have to deal with year in and year out? We`re uconn fans so we want them in but if your a duke,unc,michigan,msu,osu etc. and you find out uconn is in your conference your elated when it comes to football but i can hear a collective grown from the basketball programs and definitely the fans.
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FALSE.

Pitt, Rutgers, Maryland, and Syracuse were top 25 programs when they were on the ACC/Big Ten radar?

UConn is not great in football. But we are close enough to those 4 schools where the other stuff should be in our favor.
 
Hoophound said:
It will be interesting to see if Delany is watching us in MSG. He may be in town for the MSU game. I would be very happy to see him watching us in the early game.
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I cannot see how he wouldn't watch UConn.
 
Sportsman5 said:
If there are serious talks of 70 or so teams breaking off and creating their own mens and womens basketball tournaments in addition to football playoff, than UConn will become a lot more valuable than it currently is. As stated before, the NCAA collects the money from the tournament, so our basketball teams generate much less value than a good football team. that will change if the conferences that break off then get the money.
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They may break off for football, but they can't afford to do it for basketball. They'll never make their money back. What makes March Madness mad is the sheer number of teams, and the upsets.

Mercer can't be replaced with Washington State. It just doesn't work that way.
 
tzznandrew said:
They may break off for football, but they can't afford to do it for basketball. They'll never make their money back. What makes March Madness mad is the sheer number of teams, and the upsets.

Mercer can't be replaced with Washington State. It just doesn't work that way.
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I agree that it would change, but apart from the first round there aren't many underdog teams winning games most years. Look at how many people watch college football when there are only about 10 teams each year that can win the national championship and there is only a single national championship game with no playoff at all. That is a completely rigged system with an undefeated team that isn't from a major conference having very little chance of playing in the championship unless they come into the year ranked in the top 15 like boise st.
 
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Dooley said:
The 3-5 Year B1G Plan:

- restore MBB as an elite program post APR and post Calhoun: Check;
- show significant presence in NYC: Pending this weekend and Yankee Stadium football versus Army;
- become competitive in football again: In-progress;
- get closer to AAU: In-progress
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The checklist:

Hope that the Big Ten network doesn't win their battles with the NYC cable companies.
 
Sportsman5 said:
I agree that it would change, but apart from the first round there aren't many underdog teams winning games most years. Look at how many people watch college football when there are only about 10 teams each year that can win the national championship and there is only a single national championship game with no playoff at all. That is a completely rigged system with an undefeated team that isn't from a major conference having very little chance of playing in the championship unless they come into the year ranked in the top 15 like boise st.
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The thing is, they don't. College basketball isn't terribly popular, at least compared to other sports. But March Madness is more popular than all other playoffs, and that would be ruined.
 
TheChamps990411 said:
Basketball does matter but Football is king. Make no mistake if Uconn had a top 25 football program we`d already be in the ACC or B1G. No its not the only deciding factor but its a pretty big reason why we`re sitting in the AAC. Itll be interesting to see what happens if we win the tournament. I think that might hurt our chances. Think about it if your in the ACC or the B1G do you want the basketball juggernaut that is uconn to have to deal with year in and year out? We`re uconn fans so we want them in but if your a duke,unc,michigan,msu,osu etc. and you find out uconn is in your conference your elated when it comes to football but i can hear a collective grown from the basketball programs and definitely the fans.
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And Syracuse and Pitt are perennial Top 25 football???
 
businesslawyer said:
There is no antidote for Rutgers.
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I am afraid that when they realize they made a huge mistake with Rutgers, it may negatively affect UConn's chances because of our previous association with that university.
 
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buddy said:
I am afraid that when they realize they made a huge mistake with Rutgers, it may negatively affect UConn's chances because of our previous association with that university.
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Are you serious?

We'd be the real gateway into the northeast. Rutgers ain't .
 
buddy said:
I am afraid that when they realize they made a huge mistake with Rutgers, it may negatively affect UConn's chances because of our previous association with that university.
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Butch said:
Are you serious?
We'd be the real gateway into the northeast. Rutgers ain't .
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It's been said before, but if the money makes sense for the conference, they will be interested. At this point, it's all about putting numbers up for UConn -- Financial, Competitive, and Academic.

While cliche, all other schools are irrelevant, UConn needs to focus on itself.
 
ASweet3781 said:
FALSE.

Pitt, Rutgers, Maryland, and Syracuse were top 25 programs when they were on the ACC/Big Ten radar?

UConn is not great in football. But we are close enough to those 4 schools where the other stuff should be in our favor.
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All of those schools with the possible exception of Rutgers has had historically more successful football programs than Uconn. I completely agree that we are just as deserving but when you look at the bigger picture we not even at the level of those schools football wise. we just arent. Sure we had some recent bowl wins but come on you cant cover the sky with your palm.
 
Check the thread on the BB ratings for the year. The B1G has strong ratings in men's BB. Much stronger than most probably knew. They really don't need us to improve their ratings.
 
Checklist:
Friday - Beat Iowa State with a ton of UConn fans as well as Delany in attendance
Sunday - Beat Michigan State with a ton of UConn fans as well as Delany in attendance
Monday - Get accepted into the AAU
Tuesday - Meet Delany, Herbst and Manuel at the Affinia for another UConn Pep Rally
 
sportsart said:
Check the thread on the BB ratings for the year. The B1G has strong ratings in men's BB. Much stronger than most probably knew. They really don't need us to improve their ratings.
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They don't need us at all. Their basketball is fine.

BUT, national ratings aren't really what they're after with the exansion. They're after markets for cable subscribers. If they add in UConn, they'll get greater push into NYC, CT, and parts of NE. That brings them more yearly money...and it would bring up their ratings, since I (and others) might now have more of a reason to watch B1G games on a random weeknight.
 
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tzznandrew said:
They don't need us at all. Their basketball is fine.
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I understand that we're really talking about ratings here, but it's worth noting that they've won exactly 1 title in the last quarter-century. They clearly need some on-court help.
 
Matrim55 said:
I understand that we're really talking about ratings here, but it's worth noting that they've won exactly 1 title in the last quarter-century. They clearly need some on-court help.
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True, but they've had teams make the Final Four or title game a number of times since 2000.

They had the national runner up in 2002, 2005, 2007, 2009, 2013

And had other Final Four teams: 2001, 2005, 2010, 2012

Teams that have made the title game: Indiana, Illinois, Michigan State, Michigan, Ohio State.

I think they're doing just fine.
 
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