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Granted parking is cheaper than New York or Boston but what is there to do in Hartford that can't be done in West Hartford, Avon, or Middletown where parking is free?
Don't know the last time you've been to West Hartford Center but parking is more expensive there then whenever I go out in Hartford. I don't know of one lot in the Center that is free to park in. Blue Back is even worse. Can't speak for Avon or Middletown but that argument is weak....
 
Don't know the last time you've been to West Hartford Center but parking is more expensive there then whenever I go out in Hartford. I don't know of one lot in the Center that is free to park in. Blue Back is even worse. Can't speak for Avon or Middletown but that argument is weak....[/q

The parking argument is weak, hut just as I find the $5.00 lot for an extra 2 minute walk in Hartford, I park for free in West Hartford Center by walking from a side street one block over from the paid lots. Blue Back is a bit tougher, but if you are able to walk for five minutes, parking is free and legal.
 
The attendance numbers for their last 6 years or so in Hartford were brutal. Sure there are some hardcore Whaler fans, but overall support was piss poor.
 
White Dwarf is Karmanos' red headed step kid that he left behind in Hartford. What everyone is trying to say is this Hartford can be transformed differently than the old Hartford especially if you juice it up with everyone's favorite sports teams coming to town in various sports and a new arena done the right way. If all of these variables come together and it was done the right way, it could work. NHL, Big 10 men's and women's bball and hockey east...winters in Hartford would juice the city up from October through March. If New Haven and Fairfield county start to hear these teams coming to town and the ticket prices are a little cheaper than MSG and Boston, the arena will sell itself out.
 
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White Dwarf is Karmanos' red headed step kid that he left behind in Hartford. What everyone is trying to say is this Hartford can be transformed differently than the old Hartford especially if you juice it up with everyone's favorite sports teams coming to town in various sports and a new arena done the right way. If all of these variables come together and it was done the right way, it could work. NHL, Big 10 men's and women's bball and hockey east...winters in Hartford would juice the city up from October through March. If New Haven and Fairfield county start to here these teams coming to town and the ticket prices are a little cheaper than MSG and Boston, the arena will sell itself out.

The traffic from lower FF County to Hartford will keep most at home. Surely there will be some portion, maybe 5% of ticket sales originating from FF County, but probably never more than 10 to 15%. Midweek games are particularly challenging. I think FF County would re-adopt the Whale to a fair degree tv wise, but wouldn't be a reliable base for ticket sales. Ticket support will really have to come from Hartford and New Haven.

That all said, its hard to envision the next NHL move not being Seattle first and Quebec second. I would put Portland OR and Hamilton/Toronto as tied for distant third with Portland a non starter if Seattle gets a team.
 
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White Dwarf is Karmanos' red headed step kid that he left behind in Hartford.

Actually, I'm a resident of NC who moved from CT in the 80 and was on top of the world when my team followed me here a dozen years later. I am a Carolina Hurricanes Season ticket holders and drive 250 miles round trip to see the games. I am dedicated to this franchise.
 
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did you read the Forbes article. game set match

Was there more to that link than just the numbers? I didn't really see an article. One thing for sure, a 3.4 million dollar annual loss sure sucks, but didn't the Whalers lose 10+ million in 94? Followed by a 20+ million loss in 95? O U C H !
 
Was there more to that link than just the numbers? I didn't really see an article. One thing for sure, a 3.4 million dollar annual loss sure sucks, but didn't the Whalers lose 10+ million in 94? Followed by a 20+ million loss in 95? O U C H !
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If you read the summary said the team is in turmoil and has failed since they won the cup. Don't dorget revenue increase was due to new arena at taxpayer expense. Done talking with you if you can't even read a Forbes website
 
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The only positive in going to the B1G, football-wise, is we can beat Michigan. Ohio State will be a challenge. The Buckeyes are recruiting the south now.

A man of this stature talking about us going to the B1G says all that needs to be said about our future.
 
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The only positive in going to the B1G, football-wise, is we can beat Michigan. Ohio State will be a challenge. The Buckeyes are recruiting the south now.

A man of this stature talking about us going to the B1G says all that needs to be said about our future.

Who is doing the talking?
 
It's been like that for as long as I can remember. Hartford has been screwed by a few historic quirks. One of them is the extremely small size of the city itself. Another is I-91 screwing up the riverfront and I-84 splitting off the north-end. Next, U-Hart sits on the Bloomfield border, and Trinity on the southern border (or thereabouts). Both are too far from downtown to walk. Added to that, there is no public transit beyond buses, and people hate buses.

If given enough money and zoning power, I think the city would be best served by running quick light rail to both UHart and Trinity, connecting at Union Station. Run the line through Bushnell Park and include a stop at the Bushnell, Hartford Hospital and Trinity. Then run a line past the UConn law school and up to U Hartford. The goal needs to be to drive young people to want to live in Hartford. People drive bars, restaurants and theaters.
There are a lot of things Hartford offers, and it would be great if they can maximize it. A couple of things:

1. Your point about the highways running through the city is right on. I can't find the article I read a while back, but cities that build them through the city often find that they cut off neighborhoods from one another, increase segregation, increase violence, and drive people out of the city. For all of the problems and costs of the Big Dig, I'm so glad the highways are not obtrusive, and, while I've only lived here half a dozen years, from what I gather, Boston is significantly better (less violent, more night-life, younger crowd, more prosperous in general), and that correlates with the Big Dig (lots of factors, obviously, but BD was one).

2. The Hartford bus system is terrible. My wife and I went to Trinity (and my brother-in-law is there now), and geez, as relatively poor students with no car, it was a pain to get anywhere. It would have been nice to walk to some of the restaurants, the theatre, the Athenaeum--lets get real, I was in college--the downtown bars, some of which I remember being pretty good. The busses were inconsistent, and something like you're mentioning (a relatively simple light rail) that connected Trinity and UHart to each other, to downtown--and, hell, maybe a line that went out to the Rent, at least one weekends--could do wonders for the city. As a huge UConn fan living in Hartford, it was a pain to get to the XL center or Rent to catch games without a car. At least one of those should be remedied.

And this might keep more people in the city, and if more people are in the city, and it is safer and more enjoyable, you'll see revitalization.
 
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