Big Red has class / This guy is a thug racist

[Uconnrick]

All this BS about what was said or what wasn't is irrelevant.

If Orr or anyone else is so ignorant to use N word, they should be asked to leave the arena or stadium and I'm quite sure that most people in nearby seats would speak up and make sure it happened. Nothing Orr did or said during this incident invited the level of aggression shown by Smart. Bottom line, unless Smart was grabbed, struck or kicked by Orr, and there is no evidence to promote that he was, then Smart had no business pushing him and was wrong.

Don't try to argue that Orr has done it before either, that's like arguing that a guy that has had a couple of past automobile accidents damaged your car because he was in the parking lot at the time. Orr's past has nothing to do with the current incident and if it does, then it could be argued that Smarts action was premeditated. No one wants to go there!

As to all the hand wringing going on here about verbal abuse........have you BEEN to a Pitt or GT game at Gampel or the XL Center before? How about an old BC or Providence game (especially at the Dunk)? I've heard stuff spewed by UConn fans that would shame a sailor and I'm positive that I'm as bad as the next guy. It got to be so bad I stopped bringing my son to big games until he was 13 or so. The Rent is no different nor is any other arena or stadium in the world.

If you don't want to hear swearing, insults (a lot worse than "piece of crap") or personal attacks.........................STAY HOME! Drunk people do dumb stuff and sporting events and drinking go hand in hand. Throw in long standing heated rivalries and stuff happens!

Finally, to those of you who condemned Orr because he's "old, fat, white and a Texan" and there are a whole bunch of you on the board. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves. If that's all it takes in your world to be convicted of hate speech, with no supporting evidence, then I'd sure hate to be you when a good portion of you are that guy (short of the Texan part) in 20 - 30 years.

BTW, some of the nicest and most tolerant people I've ever met in my life are Texans.

 

[Huskybass]

I know there are signs at Gampel that state what types of behavior are not allowed. That said, policing it would be a nightmare.

"Don't try to argue that Orr has done it before either, that's like arguing that a guy that has had a couple of past automobile accidents damaged your car because he was in the parking lot at the time".

I'm sorry, but this is a terrible argument. You can't compare "accidents" to someone who has displayed a pattern of intentional inappropriate behavior. Not saying that Orr has this type of past, but there is a big difference between accidents and intentional conduct.

 

[BlueMAB]

I think the OP has never met Big Red.

 

[Huskybass]

I think the OP has never met Big Red.

Interesting point. I sit less than 10' from Big Red at all the Gampel games and I have never observed him doing anything remotely remotely inappropriate.

 

[ctchamps]

Man do I wish the Shia's and Sunnis would behave like Orr and Smart. Same with the Irish and Brits, Israelis and Palestinians, Russians and Chechens, Turks and Greeks ....................

 

[SubbaBub]

Man do I wish the Shia's and Sunnis would behave like Orr and Smart. Same with the Irish and Brits, Israelis and Palestinians, Russians and Chechens, Turks and Greeks .....

Act in their own self interest by not extending the negative press surrounding both of them?

 

[BlueMAB]

Interesting point. I sit less than 10' from Big Red at all the Gampel games and I have never observed him doing anything remotely remotely inappropriate.

With respect to Orr's behavior, no. You're right.

 

[David 76]

OK
We don't know the comment was more offensive , or that it was racial. He should not go after a fan, even if we would feel sympathetic given the provocation.
It also wasn't a gross over-reaction like Ty Cobb running into the stands to beat up the guy in the wheelchair.
Everyone back to their corners.

 

[MattMang23]

Man, for all the I've said to college kids over the years (granted I was also a college kid sitting in the front row for all the home games) I probably deserved to be smacked a time or two.

I've had vulgar signs confiscated by the athletic department. I've flipped opposing players off to their faces as they inbounded the ball. Hell, my buddy asked Tim Higgins if his wife knew how much he was fcking us, and recently yelled to Ted Valentine that he was going to murder him.

A scout for the Charlotte Bobcats once told me that he considered us the worst fans in college basketball because of how abusive we were to players. He said Duke and Carolina fans at least were funny as they harassed opposing players. We were just mean.

I feel really lucky I never ended up on ESPN for getting ko'd by an opposing player, because I definitely deserved it numerous times.