Big East OOC thread - Dec 24/25

[Tiamat7]

Let's not throw salt in the wounds of Syracuse. The rivalry is done. I wish them well. Perhaps we will become conference mates again in a new ACC-Big East one day.

 

[uconnfan68]

Box Score says attendance was about 17.1k. Wanna bet median age of attendees was about 65?

So Syracuse is God’s new waiting room?

 

[superjohn]

Big East is down this season. The ACC flat out sucks. The ACC has kind of sucked for a while now.

 

[kobe]

quite the data point! love that these two mid-major leagues battled it out 11 times to find out who deserves the crown

 

[REB1094]

UConn, Georgetown, and DePaul won. Providence, Marquette, Seton Hall, Butler, Xavier, and Creighton lost.

81-36 (18-22)

5-2 vs. ACC
5-9 vs. Big 12 (Big 12 won Big12-Big East Battle 6-5)
4-5 vs. SEC
4-6 vs. Big 10

OOC records by school:

Marquette 9-2 (4-1)
St. John's 9-2 (2-2)
UConn 8-3 (2-1)
Xavier 8-3 (2-3)
Creighton 7-4 (2-3)
Butler 7-4 (3-2)
Villanova 7-4 (1-2)
DePaul 7-2 (0-1)
Georgetown 8-2 (1-2)
Providence 6-5 (1-2)
Seton Hall 5-6 (0-3)

Bad losses (current Quad 3 and 4 losses): Villanova, Butler 2x, Georgetown, Providence, Seton Hall 3x

Games remaining:

DePaul @ Northwestern (12/21)
Coppin State @ Georgetown (12/28)
Loyola (MD) @ DePaul (12/28)
Delaware @ St. John's (12/28)

Must win all three cupcake games and DePaul beating Northwestern would be a nice cherry on top.

Is it weird that the team I'm most scared of is Seton Hall?

They are BAD. Like among the worst high major teams in America bad. Like the Syracuse/BC tier of bad. So bad that losing to them is probably enough to block most teams from getting an at-large bid

But there are going to be a few games in BE play where the refs let their defenders hold, shove, and hit all game long and then call a foul every time SHU closes their eyes and throws themselves into defenders. It happens every year

 

[MJ1]

Other than our game and Georgetown the rest of the league continued to lose non conference games. The BE looks really weak and likely a 2-3 bid conference. Dayton beating us and Marquette is terrible optics as well.

Wrong, Big East will get minimum 4, put it in the books for UConn, St. John’s, Creighton, and Marquette. ACC and Mountain West got a combined 11 bids last year, this year they may combine for 6 or 7.

 

[BlueMAB]

Let's not throw salt in the wounds of Syracuse.

 

[gtcam]

Is it weird that the team I'm most scared of is Seton Hall?

They are BAD. Like among the worst high major teams in America bad. Like the Syracuse/BC tier of bad. So bad that losing to them is probably enough to block most teams from getting an at-large bid

But there are going to be a few games in BE play where the refs let their defenders hold, shove, and hit all game long and then call a foul every time SHU closes their eyes and throws themselves into defenders. It happens every year

You just pray it isn't your team.

 

[auror]

Sad that this once great rivlary has been relegated to the ACC Network.

Nothing says ACC Network like Georgetown vs. Syracuse.

 

[Waquoit]

Let's not throw salt in the wounds of Syracuse.

No. Let's. Screw 'em.

 

[gsmooth]

Is it weird that the team I'm most scared of is Seton Hall?

They are BAD. Like among the worst high major teams in America bad. Like the Syracuse/BC tier of bad. So bad that losing to them is probably enough to block most teams from getting an at-large bid

But there are going to be a few games in BE play where the refs let their defenders hold, shove, and hit all game long and then call a foul every time SHU closes their eyes and throws themselves into defenders. It happens every year

That is really the only way I see Seton Hall winning games in the Big East. It ain't going to be because of their offensive skill. Their offense is downright putrid, anemic, and offensive.

 

[uconnric]

Well, in the Northeast the ACC still has BC to carry conference mantle, especially after BC almost beat Dartmouth last week.

They did eke out a win vs. Stonehill yesterday.

 

[Waquoit]

They did eke out a win vs. Stonehill yesterday.

Much like Syracuse, I love that BCU is a national punchline in basketball. I take pleasure every four years when they announce a new coach, every time they insist that this is the one. And every time he isn't. Every year for them is like UConn in the Perno years. No hope. Once in a while they luck into a good player, once in awhile they win a game or two they shouldn't. But it never sustains, their trials are desevedly sisyphean. They are a dead program walking. Don't kid yourself, they tried to kill UConn. Both of them did, but they didn't complete the job and now both are stuck in jokesville. They forgot basic geometry, a triangle is stronger than a straight line. But greed and envy forced them into a terrible mistake that they are still paying for.

 

[uconndogs]

Much like Syracuse, I love that BCU is a national punchline in basketball. I take pleasure every four years when they announce a new coach, every time they insist that this is the one. And every time he isn't. Every year for them is like UConn in the Perno years. No hope. Once in a while they luck into a good player, once in awhile they win a game or two they shouldn't. But it never sustains, their trials are desevedly sisyphean. They are a dead program walking. Don't kid yourself, they tried to kill UConn. Both of them did, but they didn't complete the job and now both are stuck in jokesville. They forgot basic geometry, a triangle is stronger than a straight line. But greed and envy forced them into a terrible mistake that they are still paying for.

I swear for some Orange fans it's more important that UCONN lose than it is that Syracuse win. They lose their minds everytime we rack up a Natty.

 

[PNolanFan]

I swear for some Orange fans it's more important that UCONN lose than it is that Syracuse win. They lose their minds everytime we rack up a Natty.

to be fair we also spend alot of time celebrating their downfall

 

[August_West]

Sadly, UConn might be dependent on joining the ACC to save them from the current economic trends in college athletics. People are foolin themselves if they think the current UConn conference model is sustainable over the next 5 to 10 years..

People are foolin themselves if they think the ACC conference model is sustainable for 10 years. I wouldnt be looking to them. That is like being thrown a life vest by a sinking ship.

 

[nomar]

Nothing says ACC Network like Georgetown vs. Syracuse.

I'm going to print this out, get in a time machine and travel back to 1987, go to MSG for the BET and show it to everyone.

 

[Waquoit]

I swear for some Orange fans it's more important that UCONN lose than it is that Syracuse win. They lose their minds everytime we rack up a Natty.

It's all they have.

 

[Rocktheworld]

Poor Finger Lakes State

For your reading pleasure:

Georgetown Post Game

This one's on Red.

syracusefan.com

Okay, let's fire

I have seen nothing, except the ability to recruit, that suggest Red can do this job the way we need it done. Let's go about the business of firing him. My estimate, and I believe this is almost surely low, is that Red would get at least a check for 3 1/2 million. How about Alex Kline? Did he...

syracusefan.com

Coach Search Options after Autry

Who should JW realistically look at? Probably looking hard at mid major HCs is my guess. Too risky to take an assistant and too cheap to lure away a big name coach.

syracusefan.com

I'm sure others feel the same way

In the winter, when there isn't that much to do outside of work and family stuff, Syracuse basketball is my primary source of entertainment. For the past 30-35 years that I've followed the program, I get so much joy every single day out of monitoring our RPI, Bracketmatrix, Bracketology, etc...

syracusefan.com

The Key to Surviving This Season

I am convinced that in order to have some sanity, one has to pick a second team to root for. For me it has been Iowa State for the past 10 years, but it could be something as simple as rooting for Siena and GMAC. I can see where at on paper this team has the ability win, but after watching 10...

syracusefan.com

 

[Tenspro2002]

Sad that this once great rivlary has been relegated to the ACC Network.

We buried both sides of it.

 

[Tenspro2002]

to be fair we also spend alot of time celebrating their downfall

The difference is their downfall is an actual downfall. Aside from some fluke zone-aided Tournament runs where they probably shouldn't have even gotten a bid, what do they have in the last 20 years?

They've danced on our grave twice and we've responded with 3 championships.

 

[Inyatkin]

I'm going to print this out, get in a time machine and travel back to 1987, go to MSG for the BET and show it to everyone.

It's either this or take out baby Hitler

 

[Waquoit]

to be fair we also spend alot of time celebrating their downfall

Not remotely equivalent. Every so often we check-in, laugh, then get on with our day. Let me ask you, why would anyone feel the need to be fair with Cuse? They were brutal to UConn when they were flying high and we sucked. And when they were flying high back then, they never got it done. My HS buddy was never much into stick and ball sports but was a great swimmer and got a schollie to Cuse. He told me that UConn was "basically nothing" to the Mighty Cuse. They don't deserve the consideration.

 

[August_West]

It's either this or take out baby Hitler

 

[uconn_jack]

I swear for some Orange fans it's more important that UCONN lose than it is that Syracuse win. They lose their minds everytime we rack up a Natty.

Didn't they at one time think they could poach Hurley if they wanted? I don't think even they are that delusional now.

Although they are talking about Luke.....

 

[BlueandOG]

Sadly, UConn might be dependent on joining the ACC to save them from the current economic trends in college athletics. People are foolin themselves if they think the current UConn conference model is sustainable over the next 5 to 10 years..

You're a day late and a dollar short. ACC had no interest in UConn for a LONG time. There is nothing to indicate they want us now. If they offered us a spot, we would have to take it as long as the conference was still a P4 and we got paid. We would not be BC or Cuse because we are a flagship university, a public ivy, in a wealthy state with a dedicated fan base and a history of winning programs across sports.

 

[CL82]

Other than our game and Georgetown the rest of the league continued to lose non conference games. The BE looks really weak and likely a 2-3 bid conference. Dayton beating us and Marquette is terrible optics as well.

I fully expect that going 0 for Hawaii is going to be completely discounted by the time March madness rolls around.

We are still doomed, though.

 

[CL82]

Didn't they at one time think they could poach Hurley if they wanted? I don't think even they are that delusional now.

Although they are talking about Luke.....

They probably figure that they have a shot in him because his dad is Canadian.

 

[CL82]

People are foolin themselves if they think the ACC conference model is sustainable for 10 years. I wouldnt be looking to them. That is like being thrown a life vest by a sinking ship.

If a life vest keeps your head above water, you'll gratefully take it and won't really much care where it came from.

 

[Waquoit]

People are foolin themselves if they think the ACC conference model is sustainable for 10 years. I wouldnt be looking to them. That is like being thrown a life vest by a sinking ship.

It's still better than being in the water with no life vest. Seriously.