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The american or the big east is not the only option. You can’t put lipstick on a pig, the big east is objectively not good and not the same level of competition as the power 4.

As long as we are not in a power conference, we should be taking advantage of our status as a national powerhouse and scheduling as aggressively as humanly possible. we should schedule out of conference games even after big east play starts, like Gonzaga does. Gonzaga is the closest example to us. They do everything in their power to not be dragged down by their league, and we will have to do the same going forward. And luckily, Hurley gets that. That’s why he is going to schedule even more tough next year. He understands what you don’t - the big east is trash now and we don’t owe them anything because we’ve given them their only relevance the past decade.
Dude...

Im sorry to break it to you. But Uconn has been waiting since 2013 for the Power-5 invite, and now still waiting for that P-4 invite.

It hasnt arrived and it isnt likely for that invite to be extended anytime soon

So yes. As of today, and as of the past 12 years the only option is the Big East Conference or returning to the American (well. Im not 100% if the American would take us in again. Im assumming they will). Or maybe you want to try the MAC which would lov to extend an invite to a program like UCONN.

Point is. The Power-4 doesnt want us. So the best spot to be right now is Big East/FBS Indy.

I'll be the first one to support UCONN moving to the P4 if the invitiation is extended. But it hasnt happened as they have NO interests in us. As sad as it sounds
 
5-2 yesterday. Meh overall.

Winners: St. John’s, Georgetown, Seton Hall, DePaul, and Villanova

Losers: Creighton and Marquette

Overall: 81-33 (20-27)
 
Let it also be known that the stength of the Big East will vary from year to year. Our main issue is 11 teams...how many get in with 11 teams? 5 max. So what if this year we get 3...other years we get 4, 5.
We got six in 2022 and Xavier botched the 7th spot that year.
 
Dude...

Im sorry to break it to you. But Uconn has been waiting since 2013 for the Power-5 invite, and now still waiting for that P-4 invite.

It hasnt arrived and it isnt likely for that invite to be extended anytime soon

So yes. As of today, and as of the past 12 years the only option is the Big East Conference or returning to the American (well. Im not 100% if the American would take us in again. Im assumming they will). Or maybe you want to try the MAC which would lov to extend an invite to a program like UCONN.

Point is. The Power-4 doesnt want us. So the best spot to be right now is Big East/FBS Indy.

I'll be the first one to support UCONN moving to the P4 if the invitiation is extended. But it hasnt happened as they have NO interests in us. As sad as it sounds
You’re right there’s no other real option now. But might as well vent about it here not like the Big East isn’t a problem right now anyways.

There are not many reasons why UConn made the radical move to the Big East. But nowadays, those few reasons are already diminishing.
 
You’re right there’s no other real option now. But might as well vent about it here not like the Big East isn’t a problem right now anyways.

There are not many reasons why UConn made the radical move to the Big East. But nowadays, those few reasons are already diminishing.
If we had stayed in the AAC, we would be in a one-bid league on par with the Missouri Valley.
 
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You’re right there’s no other real option now. But might as well vent about it here not like the Big East isn’t a problem right now anyways.

There are not many reasons why UConn made the radical move to the Big East. But nowadays, those few reasons are already diminishing.

How does being in a league with East Carolina and Tulane help?
 
They played at Mcdonough on campus yesterday during finals week. I think it only seats 2k and an impossible place to get to for non-student fans given parking situation. But students should have packed that arena. Double header with the women.
Georgetown's campus has no surface parking.
 
They played at Mcdonough on campus yesterday during finals week. I think it only seats 2k and an impossible place to get to for non-student fans given parking situation. But students should have packed that arena. Double header with the women.
Glorified high school gym that seats 2,500. I mean come on, you're in a metro area of 6.4 million people.
 
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Ed Cooley is the last person to realize Georgetown isn’t a national brand.
 
Games remaining:


P4 games:

Villanova @ Wisconsin (12/19)
St. John's vs. Kentucky (Atlanta) (12/20)
Butler vs. Northwestern (12/20)

Cupcake games:

Butler vs. NJIT (12/22)
Georgetown vs. Coppin State (12/22)
Creighton vs. Utah Tech (12/22)
St. John's vs. Harvard (12/23)


The league sits at 20-27 overall against the P4. To beat last year's winning percentage of 43.9%, we need to win two of the final three contest agains the P4 (very doable).

We also need to take care of business against the four cupcakes. If we do, we will only have six losses against teams outside of the P4, which is very impressive.


With regards to bids, if we go 6-1 the rest of the way, I believe we will end up anywhere between 3-5 bids depending on what happens in the league. Ultimately I believe we end up with four bids.

Field prognostication based solely on resume so far:

Lock: UConn
Should be in: St. John's, Seton Hall
Work left to do: Butler, Villanova

Out: Marquette, Creighton, Xavier, DePaul, Georgetown, Providence

I'm going to play predictor here for a moment and say the league wins six of the final seven with Nova being the only loss.

Here is how I see the final standings:

1. UConn 18-2 (28-3)
2. St. John's 15-5 (23-8)*
3. Seton Hall 13-7 (23-8)*
4. Villanova 13-7 (21-10)*
5. Butler 11-9 (20-11)
6. Creighton 10-10 (16-15)
7. Xavier 8-12 (16-15)
8. Providence 7-13 (14-17)
9. Marquette 6-14 (11-20)
10. Georgetown 6-14 (14-17)
11. DePaul 3-17 (11-20)

*= NCAA tournament teams

Side bar: Nova beats Butler in a win and your in BET quarterfinal

Tournament seeds:

UConn: 1
St. John's: 6
Seton Hall: 10
Villanova: 11 (Dayton)

Butler: first four out
 
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Games remaining:


P4 games:

Villanova @ Wisconsin (12/19)
St. John's vs. Kentucky (Atlanta) (12/20)
Butler vs. Northwestern (12/20)

Cupcake games:

Butler vs. NJIT (12/22)
Georgetown vs. Coppin State (12/22)
Creighton vs. Utah Tech (12/22)
St. John's vs. Harvard (12/23)


The league sits at 20-27 overall against the P4. To beat last year's winning percentage of 43.9%, we need to win two of the final three contest agains the P4 (very doable).

We also need to take care of business against the four cupcakes. If we do, we will only have six losses against teams outside of the P4, which is very impressive.


With regards to bids, if we go 6-1 the rest of the way, I believe we will end up anywhere between 3-5 bids depending on what happens in the league. Ultimately I believe we end up with four bids.

Field prognostication based solely on resume so far:

Lock: UConn
Should be in: St. John's, Seton Hall
Work left to do: Butler, Villanova

Out: Marquette, Creighton, Xavier, DePaul, Georgetown, Providence

I'm going to play predictor here for a moment and say the league wins six of the final seven with Nova being the only loss.

Here is how I see the final standings:

1. UConn 18-2 (29-2)*
2. St. John's 15-5 (23-8)*
3. Seton Hall 13-7 (23-8)*
4. Villanova 13-7 (21-10)*
5. Butler 11-9 (20-11)
6. Creighton 10-10 (16-15)
7. Xavier 8-12 (16-15)
8. Providence 7-13 (14-17)
9. Marquette 6-14 (11-20)
10. Georgetown 6-14 (14-17)
11. DePaul 3-17 (11-20)

*= NCAA tournament teams

Side bar: Nova beats Butler in a win and your in BET quarterfinal

Tournament seeds:

UConn: 1
St. John's: 6
Seton Hall: 10
Villanova: 11 (Dayton)

Butler: first four out

I think you are overrating Creighton and Marquette by 4 and 3 wins respectively. I think Xavier, Providence and Georgetown will pick up the difference. Seton Hall may win 14 Big East games. That team is pretty good.

When you look at the high level W/L numbers, the Big East should be closer to the other leagues in the power rankings. It is a little puzzling why it is so far behind.
 
If anyone thinks this situation is better than playing Houston, Iowa State, and Texas Tech or Louisville, UVA, and UNC in conference you’re not being honest with yourself.

This is not the old big east and it isn’t fun to play bad teams for 3 months out of the season.
I agree at the moment about the level of competition within our league and agree with Chief that we need an aggressive commissioner.

Maybe I'm missing something about our media rights deal because, while it's nice that the value increased, aren't we as fans and viewers underwriting a major portion through the subscription fees we're paying for the streaming services?
 
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I agree at the moment about the level of competition within our league and agree with Chief that we need an aggressive commissioner.

Maybe I'm missing something about our media rights deal because, while it's nice that the value increased, aren't we as fans and viewers underwriting a major portion through the subscription fees we're paying for the streaming services?
All the major conferences have games on the streaming platforms along with the major professional sports leagues.
 
All the major conferences have games on the streaming platforms along with the major professional sports leagues.
I'm aware of that. My point was we've been told our media rights deal increased payouts to the schools but some of the funds for the payouts are now coming from the pockets of the fans paying for the streaming services.
In the past all the money in the payments to the schools was coming from the networks who got it from their advertisers rather than the schools' fans. If I'm misunderstanding please clarify it for me.
 
Butler's loss to Boise St not looking too bad after Boise upset St Marys. Not sure what happened in their opener vs a D2 team but they're much better than that.
 
Okay. So why dont you ask Connecticut to return to the American conference? We all know thats the only realistic option on the table right now.

So That's it. You take the American or the Big East. The P4 FB confernces have show time and time again that they have NO interest in UCONN.

So I ask you - If you know the best option available right now is the Big East Conference then why dont you do your best to hype the league? The league that gave us a boost when we needed it the most and allowed us to return to top tier?

Hating on the league that gave you a hand when times were rough isnt the way to go. It makes us look bad as fan base and as a conference partner.

(And ofcourse - people like you are now going to claim in hindsight that Uconn was always going to win 2 National Championships with Danny Hurley even if they stayed in the American which we all know deep down is complete b.s! The American took UConn out of its geographic region and was slowly destroying UConn Athletics.)
The goal is not the American. That is a strawman. The goal isa P4. You know that. But you continue to pretend that we are arguing for something we are not.

And i might suggest that a run of really bad coaches is what was hurting UConn athletics, although you might want to tell Geno and Jim Penders. Oh and wait. We won a national Championship out of the American Conference. Oh wait again!! Dan Hurley said we would have won in 2023 no matter what confeence we were in.

You Big East fan boys should just admit that you don’t give a darn about UConn athletics. You care about basketball. You’d probably would become Ysle fans if they suddenly jumped to the top 5 and UConn rehired Ollie
 
The goal is not the American. That is a strawman. The goal isa P4. You know that. But you continue to pretend that we are arguing for something we are not.

And i might suggest that a run of really bad coaches is what was hurting UConn athletics, although you might want to tell Geno and Jim Penders. Oh and wait. We won a national Championship out of the American Conference. Oh wait again!! Dan Hurley said we would have won in 2023 no matter what confeence we were in.

You Big East fan boys should just admit that you don’t give a darn about UConn athletics. You care about basketball. You’d probably would become Ysle fans if they suddenly jumped to the top 5 and UConn rehired Ollie

Thank you very much for this post. It never occurred to anyone in the UConn universe that being in the Big 10 might be better than being in the Big East. You are truly a genius of conference realignment.
 
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The goal is not the American. That is a strawman. The goal isa P4. You know that. But you continue to pretend that we are arguing for something we are not.

And i might suggest that a run of really bad coaches is what was hurting UConn athletics, although you might want to tell Geno and Jim Penders. Oh and wait. We won a national Championship out of the American Conference. Oh wait again!! Dan Hurley said we would have won in 2023 no matter what confeence we were in.

You Big East fan boys should just admit that you don’t give a darn about UConn athletics. You care about basketball. You’d probably would become Ysle fans if they suddenly jumped to the top 5 and UConn rehired Ollie

We don't care about the "goal". We all have the same goal for UConn of competing at the highest level at a P4 conference some day! but your or any goal is meaningless b.s if you cannot for one second understand that joining a P4 Football conference requires an invitation to be extended to UConn by one of those conferences. How many times do we need to explain that? As of the past 13 years not a single Power-5/4 Football Conference has extended an invitiation to UConn. They don't think UConn is worth the expense. The amount of programs that have gotten invited before UConn should let you know that the P4 doesn't want us

Right now. The only other conferences that are willing to an extend an invitation to UConn would be the American and the MAC. The Big East is a better multi-sport conference than the American and the MAC.

Therefore, that makes the Big East, right now, the best option for UConn. Support and hype the conference that, right now, is the best option for UConn!


Is that hard to understand @freescooter?

So a bunch of you that spend your time hating and crapping on the Big East on this board should direct your efforts sending emails to conference commissioners of the P4 requesting invitation. Maybe thats a better use of your time...
 
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I love the BE and it’s just fine for us. The P4 brings a lot of baggage we don’t want or need all for a few (ok, a lot) more bucks? Meh.
 
I'm aware of that. My point was we've been told our media rights deal increased payouts to the schools but some of the funds for the payouts are now coming from the pockets of the fans paying for the streaming services.
In the past all the money in the payments to the schools was coming from the networks who got it from their advertisers rather than the schools' fans. If I'm misunderstanding please clarify it for me.
Not 100% true. Your cable bill has gone up every year because rights fees go up too
 
I love the BE and it’s just fine for us. The P4 brings a lot of baggage we don’t want or need all for a few (ok, a lot) more bucks? Meh.
what baggage?
 
The goal is not the American. That is a strawman. The goal isa P4. You know that. But you continue to pretend that we are arguing for something we are not.

And i might suggest that a run of really bad coaches is what was hurting UConn athletics, although you might want to tell Geno and Jim Penders. Oh and wait. We won a national Championship out of the American Conference. Oh wait again!! Dan Hurley said we would have won in 2023 no matter what confeence we were in.

You Big East fan boys should just admit that you don’t give a darn about UConn athletics. You care about basketball. You’d probably would become Ysle fans if they suddenly jumped to the top 5 and UConn rehired Ollie
I think most here would openly do jumping jacks to escape the BE for a P4. If you’re not onboard there your head is in the sand.
 
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