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Big East Leads Power 6 in Early 2021 Recruiting

Big East needs to continue the push as the premier B-Ball conf. They should ease up on the foul calling and recapture that hard nose tough east coast basketball vibe again.
This would be ideal, but realistically we probably need to come to terms that the NBE, will never be the OBE. Best thing to do is get in there and reclaim the throne, then we can shape the new identity.
 
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Samson down 6 to 80 and Longino down 56 to 89 in the composite.
What happened to Longino? He was ranked 33 before this update.
 
Samson down 6 to 80 and Longino down 56 to 89 in the composite.
What happened to Longino? He was ranked 33 before this update.
It appears you're looking at the composite ranking vs. the 247 ranking, not changes in ranking over time.
 
@7774 Conference doesn't matter in recruiting, right? I had to troll you on this one, sorry.
 
@7774 Conference doesn't matter in recruiting, right? I had to troll you on this one, sorry.
I've never said it doesn't matter. It's probably the 6th/7th most important thing to an average recruit. You literally think the conference a team plays in is more important to a recruit than the relationship he has with the coaches on the team. More important to a recruit than getting to the league. You're clueless.
 
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I've never said it doesn't matter. It's probably the 6th/7th most important thing to an average recruit. You literally think the conference a team plays in is more important to a recruit than the relationship he has with the coaches on the team. More important to a recruit than getting to the league. You're clueless.
Please name the 5 things more important to a recruit than the conference, I’m just curious...
 
I've never said it doesn't matter. It's probably the 6th/7th most important thing to an average recruit. You literally think the conference a team plays in is more important to a recruit than the relationship he has with the coaches on the team. More important to a recruit than getting to the league. You're clueless.

I mean, going to the league and the conference you're playing in are kind of connected. A coach can say to a recruit "Hey you're going to be playing in a top league, so you'll be able to showcase your skills against the best competition."
 
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I mean, going to the league and the conference you're playing in are kind of connected. A coach can say to a recruit "Hey you're going to be playing in a top league, so you'll be able to showcase your skills against the best competition."
Great point. Essentially one in the same. The odds of going to the league diminish considerably once you go down the ladder of conferences. Not saying it's impossible - just more difficult and less likely.
 
I've never said it doesn't matter. It's probably the 6th/7th most important thing to an average recruit. You literally think the conference a team plays in is more important to a recruit than the relationship he has with the coaches on the team. More important to a recruit than getting to the league. You're clueless.
You think these guys going to Kentucky give a darn about who is coaching them for 1-2 years? Captain Crunch could be the coach...as long as their draft prospects are awesome, they will play at the school.
 
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Please name the 5 things more important to a recruit than the conference, I’m just curious...
relationship with the head coach, relationship with assistant coaches, playing time, chance of winning a championship, historical prestiege of the program, proximity to home so your friends and family can see you play, illegal payments, etc.
 
You think these guys going to Kentucky give a darn about who is coaching them for 1-2 years? Captain Crunch could be the coach...as long as their draft prospects are awesome, they will play at the school.
Kentucky's recruiting immediately became 10X better as soon as Calipari took over, but sure, none of those players cared who the coach was.
 
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So if Calapari goes to Old Dominion, top recruits go there as well? Because they cherish the relationship with their coach? Why didn’t Cal have this success elsewhere? Maybe the conference? What’s he’s doing is only a possibility thanks to the conference, which matters way more than the coach. I’m not budging @7774.
 
relationship with the head coach, relationship with assistant coaches, playing time, chance of winning a championship, historical prestiege of the program, proximity to home so your friends and family can see you play, illegal payments, etc.
Not that I want to get in the middle of this debate, but it's kind of hard to argue conference affiliation isn't that important when each of UConn's last few recruits all mentioned the Big East as a big selling point. I think every one of them did.

I guess I would ask if UConn were still in the AAC and not the Big East could they even get their foot in the door so that the head coach and assistant coaches could form a great relationship with the recruit? Or sell their prestige, playing time, and a chance to win a championship?

While I wouldn't argue that the things you mentioned aren't important I'm pointing out that conference affiliation may be a lynchpin to those other things.
 
Kentucky's recruiting immediately became 10X better as soon as Calipari took over, but sure, none of those players cared who the coach was.
I see both sides of this debate but Pay Pal Cal-lipari is an outlier. Memphis' recruiting faded after he left as well. He's one of the very few coaches who recruits follow, probably due to WW Wes and the bags that he throws around.
No doubt at all that conference affiliation is in the top 3 of most recruits considerations, that and establishing a winning tradition like a Gonzaga, for example.
 
Not that I want to get in the middle of this debate, but it's kind of hard to argue conference affiliation isn't that important when each of UConn's last few recruits all mentioned the Big East as a big selling point. I think every one of them did.

I think they all did as well, and I think it’s true that it had a positive impact. I also think it’s telling that when Jordan Hawkins wrote an article in his own words titled “This is why I committed to Connecticut”, conference is brought up exactly 0 times. It’s all about his relationship with the staff, his belief they can get him to the league, and his chance to play with other players on the team.


Every recruit is going to be asked if UConn going back to the BE mattered, because it’s a major narrative in college basketball this year, and they are all going to answer yes, because I’m sure it did matter, just not to the degree people try to pretend it does. Jordan Hawkins could have said anything in his article, and he never brought it up even once.

I guess I would ask if UConn were still in the AAC and not the Big East could they even get their foot in the door so that the head coach and assistant coaches could form a great relationship with the recruit? Or sell their prestige, playing time, and a chance to win a championship?

I think we know how this staff would recruit in the AAC, because we watched them do it. They signed Akok (247 composite rank 31), Bouknight (composite rank 65), and Gaffney (composite rank 105). Not much different from this year’s class, and as long as we won on the court and put guys in the league, I’m not sure why that would change.
 
I see both sides of this debate but Pay Pal Cal-lipari is an outlier. Memphis' recruiting faded after he left as well. He's one of the very few coaches who recruits follow, probably due to WW Wes and the bags that he throws around.
No doubt at all that conference affiliation is in the top 3 of most recruits considerations, that and establishing a winning tradition like a Gonzaga, for example.
I was responding to someone specifically saying recruits don’t care who coaches Kentucky. They obviously do. And you’re way underestimating how many other coaches have a huge impact, but I agree Calapari does make the most difference.
 
I think they all did as well, and I think it’s true that it had a positive impact. I also think it’s telling that when Jordan Hawkins wrote an article in his own words titled “This is why I committed to Connecticut”, conference is brought up exactly 0 times. It’s all about his relationship with the staff, his belief they can get him to the league, and his chance to play with other players on the team.


Every recruit is going to be asked if UConn going back to the BE mattered, because it’s a major narrative in college basketball this year, and they are all going to answer yes, because I’m sure it did matter, just not to the degree people try to pretend it does. Jordan Hawkins could have said anything in his article, and he never brought it up even once.



I think we know how this staff would recruit in the AAC, because we watched them do it. They signed Akok (247 composite rank 31), Bouknight (composite rank 65), and Gaffney (composite rank 105). Not much different from this year’s class, and as long as we won on the court and put guys in the league, I’m not sure why that would change.


 
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