Big East January '26 Thread

[KingAG]

This Hall/G Town game is disgusting.

I’m sure we’ll get the 2016 warriors version of this SH team on Tuesday though

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Dude, he explicitly said that the worst case scenario is two bids, and described in detail how it might happen.

Oh, so he just spit talks but isn't willing to actually take a stand. He fits right in here.

 

[Inyatkin]

Oh, so he just spit talks but isn't willing to actually take a stand. He fits right in here.

You want him to take a stand he didn’t actually take.

How are you like this all the time

 

[Waquoit]

This is called a RuffRuff. 😀

This should become a thing, imo

 

[Waquoit]

PC apparently shot its load vs. us, as expected.

In this case, it's not snark to say that game was their Super Bowl.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

You want him to take a stand he didn’t actually take.

How are you like this all the time

First, he claimed that the outcome of intraconference games was bad for the conference. By definition, if it is a game between two conference teams, the outcome for the conference is going to be 1-1. From the conference perspective, intraconference games are neutral.

Second, the Big East tournament bound teams won two road games. How is that bad for the Big East?

Third, he goes down this road where he claims those two teams are not tournament bound, which would imply he thinks the Big East is a 1 bid league. How is anyone supposed to take that argument seriously?

 

[Inyatkin]

First, he claimed that the outcome of intraconference games was bad for the conference. By definition, if it is a game between two conference teams, the outcome for the conference is going to be 1-1. From the conference perspective, intraconference games are neutral.

I already regret engaging, but, no. If DePaul beats a marginal tournament team, that’s not neutral. That hurts the conference

 

[FfldCntyFan]

You think Villanova and St. Johns are not going to the Dance? Are you predicting the Big East will get 1 bid? Please, please, please predict that the Big East will get 1 bid. That would be so much fun.

That wasn't what I posted but intellectual honesty has never been your strong suit.

At the moment[n] one [/b] Big East school is already in. Hurley can pick our starting lineup and substitution rotation out of a hat and we will still make the tournament. No other BE school is in a position where they cannot lose their way out of the tournament and more than half have already done that. Do you believe Villanova could make the tournament (shy of winning the BE tournament) if they finish 11-9 in conference? If St John's finishes 11-9?

I never said one bid, but I will go on record saying that if we run the conference (20-0; win the BE tournament) and the remainder of of the conference finishes 12-8 or worse, the Big East will get two bids. I know you will attempt to twist this but those who don't play games will know what I posted.

I still don't understand why you treat any post that points out how down most of the schools in this conference are this season as a personal attack.

 

[FightOnCT]

First, he claimed that the outcome of intraconference games was bad for the conference. By definition, if it is a game between two conference teams, the outcome for the conference is going to be 1-1. From the conference perspective, intraconference games are neutral.

Second, the Big East tournament bound teams won two road games. How is that bad for the Big East?

Third, he goes down this road where he claims those two teams are not tournament bound, which would imply he thinks the Big East is a 1 bid league. How is anyone supposed to take that argument seriously?

Say we lost at Providence this past Wednesday, which would have hurt UConn’s ranking in the tourney but add a quality win to PC’s resume. The result would still be a net-negative for the conference because UConn’s ranking was harmed while the quality win would not significantly improve Providence’s chances of making the tourney. UConn & the Big East would lose so much more out of that outcome than what PC would gain: morale.

The outcome only becomes neutral when both opponents either benefit similarly to a win or the benefit is equal in value (i.e. a fringe-tourney team beating a 5 seed looking for a protected seed)

 

[AllHusky]

And they might throw it with this game right now. Such an annoying team

Yeah, but you want St John’s to be great, Nova dependable, Hall to be Cinderella and Creighton to struggle to get the 5th spot. PC is better than Creighton in my mind, they just screwed up early. Tourney is going to be wild, I see that setting up big time

 

[rashadray11]

You think Villanova and St. Johns are not going to the Dance? Are you predicting the Big East will get 1 bid? Please, please, please predict that the Big East will get 1 bid. That would be so much fun.

Val you only care about the big east, not about UConn. We get it.

 

[aceboon]

Seton Hall strangling Georgetown after they were down double digits in the 2nd half, from 11 down to up 10.

 

[AllHusky]

I am annoyed I lost track of time and didn't put $ on St.John's vs Creighton. SJU leading by 18 at HT in Omaha. Still an entire 2nd half, I know. Pitino's St John's teams has always been tough for McDermott's Creighton teams.

Oh, so he just spit talks but isn't willing to actually take a stand. He fits right in here.

Hey Nelson, take a flippin walk. You know some hoops, but not enough for that level of arrogance. You make Duke guys look humble. Go Huskies👍🏼

 

[housekeys]

UConn, so far, has played the bottom half of the conference. Now UConn will start playing the current top half. A nice road win against SH will do wonders.

 

[TRest]

I’m starting to wonder if Georgetown finds a way to yeet Ed. Just nothing going on with his team.

 

[AllHusky]

Say we lost at Providence this past Wednesday, which would have hurt UConn’s ranking in the tourney but add a quality win to PC’s resume. The result would still be a net-negative for the conference because UConn’s ranking was harmed while the quality win would not significantly improve Providence’s chances of making the tourney. UConn & the Big East would lose so much more out of that outcome than what PC would gain: morale.

The outcome only becomes neutral when both opponents either benefit similarly to a win or the benefit is equal in value (i.e. a fringe-tourney team beating a 5 seed looking for a protected seed)

I think I agree, but I’m a couple in and my comprehension might be a bit off.

 

[AllHusky]

I’m starting to wonder if Georgetown finds a way to yeet Ed. Just nothing going on with his team.

Water bottle throwing clause.

 

[FightOnCT]

I think I agree, but I’m a couple in and my comprehension might be a bit off.

The gist is that insta-conference games aren’t always neutral. We had a lot more to lose from that game Wednesday than PC had to gain. The Big East would be hurt because it hurts the seeding of a tourney team while the other team wouldn’t take advantage of that win.

 

[DFW HOYA]

I’m starting to wonder if Georgetown finds a way to yeet Ed. Just nothing going on with his team.

No money. Georgetown needs $100 million in budget cuts after research losses. No room for adding any more on the plate.

It also raises an uncomfortable question: can anyone do better right now with the infrastructure it has?

 

[rashadray11]

@nelsonmuntz Tell us all again how the Big East is not terrible?

 

[caw]

@nelsonmuntz Tell us all again how the Big East is not terrible?

I look at it as who is a tournament team and who is not.

BE has 5 of the top 50 teams in NET right now.

Butler is 51. Then PC and the four teams in the graphic.

ACC has 10 teams outside the top 50

Big 12 has 7

Big Ten has 8

SEC has 6. Which is really good.

The bottom of the BE may suck worse than the bottom of other conferences but it will all come down to how the teams that make the NCAAT perform there.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

@nelsonmuntz Tell us all again how the Big East is not terrible?

Why is the graphic in reverse order?

 

[MJ1]

@nelsonmuntz Tell us all again how the Big East is not terrible?

@nelsonmuntz Tell us all again how the Big East is not terrible?

Wow, that’s a poor argument. You select the worse team in the conference, but if you look at the teams around Marquette, two from ACC, a Big 10, and Big 12 team which I guess means 4 of the power 5 basketball conference teams are not good. The Big East has 5 teams in the NET Top 51. Haters will hate.

 

[rashadray11]

Wow, that’s a poor argument. You select the worse team in the conference, but if you look at the teams around Marquette, two from ACC, a Big 10, and Big 12 team which I guess means 4 of the power 5 basketball conference teams are not good. The Big East has 5 teams in the NET Top 51. Haters Mathematical facts:

Mathematical fact:

4/11 Big East teams are in the lowest 10

No other conference, all much larger than the Big East (your logo by the way), has close to that percentage of cellar dwellars.

 

[MJ1]

Math was tough for you huh? Mathematical facts:

4/11 Big East teams are in the lowest 10

No other conference, all much larger than the Big East (your logo by the way), has close to that percentage of cellar dwellars.

Basically half of the Big East is in the top 50 NET, no other conference can say that. Statistically we can find different ways to make a point. I look at the top and you choose to view the bottom. Whatever floats your boat.