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Big East DPOY Race

CTBasketball said:
Whaley’s stats are down, but if you watch him he’s the most intimidating and active defender in the conference from 30 ft out to the rim.
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And he is coming on strong as the March to March Madness continues.
 
Posh Alexander’s numbers are impressive given that he’s 5’10, on a good day. Gritty NYC kid we should have recruited.
 
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UcannUconn said:
Posh Alexander’s numbers are impressive given that he’s 5’10, on a good day. Gritty NYC kid we should have recruited.
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I think he would be the favorite to win it right now.
 
UcannUconn said:
Posh Alexander’s numbers are impressive given that he’s 5’10, on a good day. Gritty NYC kid we should have recruited.
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Spicy take.
 
factor in the other defensive stats i.e. rebounds (5.8), steals (.6), and blocks (1.6) and i think whaley is the runaway favorite
 
bendm said:
factor in the other defensive stats i.e. rebounds (5.8), steals (.6), and blocks (1.6) and i think whaley is the runaway favorite
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I think it's closer than you think. Minaya has really come on. His block at the 25 second mark is with his off hand, because he had to. He played 40 minutes of absolutely stellar pressure D last night without fouling. Plus you need to look at BE only stats.

 
FriarJ said:
I think it's closer than you think. Minaya has really come on. His block at the 25 second mark is with his off hand, because he had to.
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you dont get extra credit for using your off hand

minaya- 5.9 rebs/.7 steals/.8 blocks

just barely ahead of whaley in the first two categories by .1 each but half of whaleys bpg
 
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bendm said:
you dont get extra credit for using your off hand

minaya- 5.9 rebs/.7 steals/.8 blocks

just barely ahead of whaley in the first two categories by .1 each but half of whaleys bpg
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You said Whaley is the runaway favorite. The stats in the 1st post show that's not the case. Also, Whaley's defensive rebounds are not that in BE play.
 
FriarJ said:
I think it's closer than you think. Minaya has really come on. His block at the 25 second mark is with his off hand, because he had to. He played 40 minutes of absolutely stellar pressure D last night without fouling. Plus you need to look at BE only stats.

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Announcers always talk about this kid but when I watch y’all I never notice him. Did he play well against us?
 
FriarJ said:
You said Whaley is the runaway favorite. The stats in the 1st post show that's not the case.
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as the only big man on that list that guards other bigs that can normally shoot around 50%, whaleys 35% is more impressive than minayas 25%
 
Huskyforlife said:
Announcers always talk about this kid but when I watch y’all I never notice him. Did he play well against us?
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You don't notice him because the person he is guarding can't get many shots off. Not sure how many of our'all games you have watched but he is talked about for a reason.
 
bendm said:
as the only big man on that list, guarding other bigs that can shoot around 50%, whaleys 35% is more impressive than minayas 25%
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okay
 
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bendm said:
it is.
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if you say so. I say with Minaya leading the league in minutes played, his defensive FG percentage is incredible.
 
FriarJ said:
You don't notice him because the person he is guarding can't get many shots off. Not sure how many of our'all games you have watched but he is talked about for a reason.
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Idk I notice Morsell, and it’s not like he stopped Martin from getting 25. But I’ll admit I haven’t watched all your games.
 
If you $uck at defense, you're not guarding the opponent's best players

Interesting stat none the less. Better than just blocks I suppose
 
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auror said:
Providence's defense has been exactly the same with Minaya on and off the court during conference play. 94.7 adj D to the decimal. UConn's has been 11 points worse without Whaley.
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He has been off the court for a total of 36 minutes in 9 conference games so that seems like a pretty useless stat.
 
Hungryhusky99 said:
He has been off the court for a total of 36 minutes in 9 conference games so that seems like a pretty useless stat.
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That's basically a full game played without him. And there's been no dropoff in their defense (as of now it's been slightly better with him off the court). Even if the small sample size is concealing an effect, it's certainly not a large one.

He's a very good defender. But wing defenders are the least impactful defenders overall. He protects the rim a little bit and is versatile, but 1 versatile player doesn't help you as much as the value of having several, if that makes sense. A good wing defender can be somewhat avoided. And unlike say a shutdown NFL corner when you avoid them, that doesn't erase half the field, only 1/5. Locking down a wing player will only be relevant in certain matchups, unlike locking down the rim or disrupting the point of attack ballhandler.

For a wing defender to have a truly elite defensive value, they have to be disruptive (either help a ton at the rim or get in passing lanes/make steals, be part of a press, etc.)
 
navery12 said:
Well Morsell was outside the arena in quarantine while Martin was getting his 25, so not much he could do there
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I phrased that very poorly. Meant Minya didn’t stop Martin, and that I notice Morsell when I watch Marquette.
 
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