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I believe there will be a BB season. Schools are losing to much money from room and board and they have contracts with TV radio etc which pay alot of money to the schools. The schools need the money because they are loosing it by not having students on campus. Doctors, stores, food, drinks, room and board and classes. They need media money. I am confident they will open sports and figure out a way to bring kids back from Sept - Thanksgiving and then something similar after January. I have ideas on how to make it work.
Not a chance.
 
So in my county schools were shut down in March for online "learning" and will start on Aug. 10 with more online learning..but wait..now they want to push back the opening date for said online learning..You can't make up the things that happen in Florida....
Yup - Disney World reopening when the new infection rate is higher than it was when they closed. WHAT???? #$&@¥€£§##??
 
Its a crazy virus. The virus kills a large percentage of people over 60 but very few under the age of 30. Add to that that the flu kills more people under 30 and is also very contagious. There is a flu vaccaine but as many of us know there are many different kinds of flu and the vaccine doesnt work 100%.

I do beleive we have to find a way to get the kids back to school and adults back to work. Working from home works for many but still kids need to grow and mature and not going to school does not accomplish that. With that said kids need to be safe. IMO get the kids back to school IF the virus truly is not as contagious as we origionally thought. If it is a small risk that the kids get it then it is no more contagious then the flu.

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So I would think that by having the kids back in college away from their parents would be less of a risk of the parents contacting the virus from their kids. The parents could be more safe. If the kids contact the virus in college then they will be treated and released. The question is can the kids tranmit it to their friends like the flu? If its not a matter of everybody dying then I say start school. Kids get sick all the time. Kids get the flu. If for kids this is no more dangerous then the flu then open classes.
 
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Assuming they even play, what a nightmare for the oft-national champion UConn field hockey team. Temple, Providence and Quinnipiac four times each!

Ugly.
 
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I understand newly graduated attorneys are having trouble finding work. If these schools try to have a season of any kind and it goes south, all these new attorneys may have something to do, so there is that...
 
Keep the faith Boneyarders. The ladies will be here next year and, hopefully, so will we. If they can get a few games in I think that would make everyone happy. It's a big boat and we are all rowing in it together, the schools, the conferences. I think that if just one team in on of the Power 5 conferences decides to cancel the season the rest will fall like chips on the table. No game is worth putting any athlete at risk no matter what impact it has on the school's bank account.
 
Its a crazy virus. The virus kills a large percentage of people over 60 but very few under the age of 30. Add to that that the flu kills more people under 30 and is also very contagious. There is a flu vaccaine but as many of us know there are many different kinds of flu and the vaccine doesnt work 100%.

I do beleive we have to find a way to get the kids back to school and adults back to work. Working from home works for many but still kids need to grow and mature and not going to school does not accomplish that. With that said kids need to be safe. IMO get the kids back to school IF the virus truly is not as contagious as we origionally thought. If it is a small risk that the kids get it then it is no more contagious then the flu.

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So I would think that by having the kids back in college away from their parents would be less of a risk of the parents contacting the virus from their kids. The parents could be more safe. If the kids contact the virus in college then they will be treated and released. The question is can the kids tranmit it to their friends like the flu? If its not a matter of everybody dying then I say start school. Kids get sick all the time. Kids get the flu. If for kids this is no more dangerous then the flu then open classes.
About as dangerous a take on this whole issue as I've encountered. A lot of misinformation and ill informed assumptions here the kind of which have led to states like Florida, Georgia, Texas and Arizona to have skyrocketing infection rates and out of control hospitalizations.

Wishing and hoping that it goes away is not what's needed now. Solid planning and prevention is the only thing that will keep this fall and winter from making this past spring seem like only a preliminary event.

Nobody wants the virus to continue to ravage the population. Nobody wants to believe that infected youth might suffer long term effects from this infection. Nobody wants to see the economy grind to a halt. But failing to recognize the seriousness of this issue will only guarantee that the disease will continue to build momentum and continue to spiral out of control.

Individuals can make political, social and economic comments, and many of us may disagree, but in the end covid is not not paying attention to us. It continues to spread where it is given an opportunity and it never sleeps or takes a day off.

If covid was the name of an armed enemy attacking our shores we would all stand together ready to fight. But a virus is more insidious than that. It is silent. It is invisible and because of this some want to believe it doesn't exist, some want to believe it is not really a serious problem and some want to believe that it will just go away.

And covid just keeps marching on.
 
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Keep the faith Boneyarders. The ladies will be here next year and, hopefully, so will we. If they can get a few games in I think that would make everyone happy. It's a big boat and we are all rowing in it together, the schools, the conferences. I think that if just one team in on of the Power 5 conferences decides to cancel the season the rest will fall like chips on the table. No game is worth putting any athlete at risk no matter what impact it has on the school's bank account.
I am working on a research review [non-political and peer-reviewed at original researcher level] of the SARS, MERS, and CoViD 19, and hope to post the "Reader's Digest" version by Monday. The current trend is in the 39 and below age groups for positive tests, with very low hospitalization rates, and even lower ICU/ventilator requirements. As Steelerone says, "Keep the faith" and I add have no fear [as fear is an immune system depressant mechanism], and there is promising new treatments for advanced cases {I plan on sharing on Monday] that bring people back out of the ventilators. Death rates continue to decline.

Stay healthy, my friends!

Bottom line: Do NOT believe those who are intent on spreading hysteria!
 
Gonzaga or South Dakota=1/2
Umm, I am not trying to quibble here but NO WAY. None of their history suggests they are a contender for a National Title having to go through Multiple top 20 teams. Coming close against a "Stanford" in a regular season game does not make you NC material. Plus, we are talking about "regularity" not one-time scenarios.

Gonzago and SD are really good programs, just not worthy of top 16 consideration on an annual basis. Let's also be realistic that you really need to be Top 8 ranked to warrant the NC discussion. Only twice have programs outside of the Top 10 ranking won a NCAAT- NC in 1994 and Tennessee in 1997 (they were #3 seeds in the 9-12 range). Those are/were regular Blue Blood teams. Gonzago and SD are not regular/perennial top 20 teams. So I politely reject the 1/2 scenario as not plausible. No disrespect meant, just logic of history and non-parity.
 
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Umm, I am not trying to quibble here but NO WAY. None of their history suggests they are a contender for a National Title having to go through Multiple top 20 teams. Coming close against a "Stanford" in a regular season game does not make you NC material. Plus, we are talking about "regularity" not one-time scenarios.
Gonzago and SD are really good programs, just not worthy of top 16 consideration on an annual basis. Let's also be realistic that you really need to be Top 8 ranked to warrant the NC discussion. Only twice have programs outside of the Top 10 ranking won a NCAAT- NC in 1994 and Tennessee in 1997 (they were #3 seeds in the 9-12 range). Those are/were regular Blue Blood teams. Gonzago and SD are not regular/perennial top 20 teams. So I politely reject the 1/2 scenario as not plausible. No disrespect meant, just logic of history and non-parity.
You probably over thought this. The .5 was intended to represent the cumulative historical runs in the tournaments and regular seasons of the past. Runs like Buffalo & Quinnipiac had recently and Albany or Marist, or Xavier had not too long ago. Even if the field were 16 teams you would still have to account for a team like the undefeated season Princeton had a few years back. IDK seems like a team like DePaul has regularlyy been ranked in that 15-20 range for a few years now.
 
Does this affect the Hall of Fame game, I.e., the MSST matchup.
 
If they figured out a way to re-open Disney theme parks can't they figure out a way to play sports..lol

Like others have stated, I think the jury is out. I can think of dozens of examples of individual factories that opened to great fanfare and then were re-shuttered within weeks as employees were diagnosed with COVID.
 
I will say the same thing about baseball not finishing....I am a Yankee fan and couldn't wait for this season (before Covid19 hit)

They might be starting their little 60 game schedule up next week....But I don't think they will finish it.....Already numerous players have contacted the virus including two of the Yankees best players.....

I also can't get into watching baseball or Uconn basketball with no fans in the arena....
 
Like others have stated, I think the jury is out. I can think of dozens of examples of individual factories that opened to great fanfare and then were re-shuttered within weeks as employees were diagnosed with COVID.

And there is another side to that coin as well. I run a small plastic molding/manufacturing shop. We serve a sector of the construction industry, waste water control, and are considered "essential". We have remained open continuously thru out the pandemic. We have used masks, and distancing and disinfecting wipes from day one.

I have 50 full time employees. Not one employee has missed a single day due to Covid infection.

Now some of this I am sure is a bit of luck, but frankly, I am stunned. But it does say a lot about the efficacy of the prevention guides.
 
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Most posters are talking about the issues as they relate to the students and that is certainly extremely important - they are our future :), but when you look at a university environment, or just limit it to a collegiate athlete environment the age range of contacts is greatly expanded. I doubt there are any age stats available, but it expands from 18-22 yr olds, to coaches who occupy some space between 22-75 yrs old, trainers, team doctors, referees, facilities staff, cleaning staff, broadcasting staff, sports administration, travel personnel, etc all will have both wide age ranges and general health statuses. And the university environment adds in professors, tutors, administrators, custodial staff, security staff, housing staff, etc. will have a whole new set of ranges. So the process of fielding a university team is not just about 18-22 yr olds in good health.

It becomes about the whole community, and with sports teams it is not even just the local community but a intermingling of the communities of every location where the team plays, and every location where the opponent has played. And those various communities will all have very different rules in place and very different profiles for how this virus has behaved within that locale. And those parameters will be in a constant state of flux. Look around the country, region, and even different counties within a state, and you see a wide range of current conditions and a constantly evolving situation in every locale, as well as widely different demographics. Tolland County (Storrs) is a very different situation from Hartford County (Civic Center), is a very different situation from New London county (Mohegan Sun), is a very different situation from Fairfax county (Bridgeport) all location Uconn has played games in CT.

I live in Storrs myself and am actually pretty terrified about what the community will look like when there are 20,000 students returning for classes in August and added into the currently pretty sparsely populated town. And I am retire and venture into public only once or twice a week at this point - couldn't imagine if I had to work on campus or in town 8 hours a day 5 days a week with a bunch of young adults who feel pretty invincible because it only affects 'old sick folks.'
 
Unless we see dramatic changes in how this virus is handled I dont think we have a WBB, or MBB, season for awhile.
Right now it has to be in a bubble situation, which is why I am uncertain how MLB will make it. In the NBA, WNBA and NHL there will be bubble locations, with only negative tested players, officials, coaches, non playing team personal and broadcasting/media are allowed in and not out until its over. We cant do that with college sports as the student athletes need to return to school, where the professionals do not, and there is constant travel involved. I dont see students staying in hotels for months and doing on line classes only.
 
Its a crazy virus. The virus kills a large percentage of people over 60 but very few under the age of 30. Add to that that the flu kills more people under 30 and is also very contagious. There is a flu vaccaine but as many of us know there are many different kinds of flu and the vaccine doesnt work 100%.

I do beleive we have to find a way to get the kids back to school and adults back to work. Working from home works for many but still kids need to grow and mature and not going to school does not accomplish that. With that said kids need to be safe. IMO get the kids back to school IF the virus truly is not as contagious as we origionally thought. If it is a small risk that the kids get it then it is no more contagious then the flu.

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So I would think that by having the kids back in college away from their parents would be less of a risk of the parents contacting the virus from their kids. The parents could be more safe. If the kids contact the virus in college then they will be treated and released. The question is can the kids tranmit it to their friends like the flu? If its not a matter of everybody dying then I say start school. Kids get sick all the time. Kids get the flu. If for kids this is no more dangerous then the flu then open classes.

Not wanting to disagree but tell me Tony, if you were a 60+ year old teacher would you feel safe in a room/building filled with sneezing, coughing youngsters who you witness paying little attention to cautionary behavior?

World wide, 9% of the resolved cases (either recovery or death) have died.
 
Not wanting to disagree but tell me Tony, if you were a 60+ year old teacher would you feel safe in a room/building filled with sneezing, coughing youngsters who you witness paying little attention to cautionary behavior?

World wide, 9% of the resolved cases (either recovery or death) have died.
Maybe I am a little dense but would you please explain that last sentence?
 
Maybe I am a little dense but would you please explain that last sentence?

Sure. All the stats being tossed around it gets confusing. First, flu deaths are estimated. It's extremely rare for anyone to have "influenza" on the death cert as the cause. The CDC estimates the number and comparing it to an actual count of covid deaths is a mistake.

9.1 million resolved cases (total cases minus active cases equals resolved cases) divided by 600 thousand deaths equals 6.6%, which is the percentage of people who die after contracting the virus. This is lower than I said due to me saying world rather than the US. The world-wise numbers are much less acurate than the US.

In the US the numbers are 3.8 million total cases and 1.9 of those are active, right about 50%. Of the 1.9 million resolved cases there have been 140 thousand deaths. 140 divided by 1.9 million gives 7.4 percent.

These percents have dropped over the last few days. I think a lot more of the cases are being listed as recovered than last time I looked a few days ago. My point is that if you avoid catching the virus your survival rate is excellent (100%) but if you catch the bug you are a lot more likely to die than the 0.5% numbers I keep reading.

Like many others with lots of time I have followed this disease closely since January when our leaders told us it was no worse than a bad cold and there was no need to wear masks or to test anyone. I don't trust any of the numbers. This is like war where truth is the first casualty. We were told we didn't need masks because our government never stockpiled any so there were no masks. Did anyone expect them to say they screwed up? I bought a couple of boxes of paper masks last year for my allergy attacks. 100 masks cost me about $12. Yesterday I was in a convenience store and the price of one of those masks was $5.00. What a country we live in!

 
Here’s a modest solution for UConn WBB.
First, play only conference games.
Second, each team plays only home games
Looking this over I have a feeling there could be a problem here.
Have fun, folks, and stay safe.
 
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I hate to say it, but Covid 19 is here for a significant period of time....the season should and probably will be cancelled. Is the health of the kids and personnel worth it?.....I don't think so.
Who could possibly know where college kids go....and possibly bring virus home to family. $ is the only reason the conferences are maneuvering. I would not allow my daughter to play. Give the kids the option to play the additional year. Grad school should be attractive to many. Yes, we will lose some to the pros, but gambling with people's lives is a no-no. I am a big husky fan and want to see the girls together, so I guess I am just a concerned senior.
If you do, in fact, have a daughter who has a scholarship to play WCBB, I don't think that you could prevent her from playing. Yeah, I "hate to say it", but it's her life and the 2 of you should sit down and weigh the pros and cons. Don't let your fear become an obstacle to her success and life-long dream of playing basketball.
 
Not wanting to disagree but tell me Tony, if you were a 60+ year old teacher would you feel safe in a room/building filled with sneezing, coughing youngsters who you witness paying little attention to cautionary behavior?

World wide, 9% of the resolved cases (either recovery or death) have died.
Resolved cases have two outcomes: recovered or died. The numbers depend on the number of cases actually tested positive. With many in the population who have exhibited ZERO symptoms, the number of positive, actual cases is unknowable, but that is NOT bad news. Those who show no symptoms also have little shedding of the virus, therefore they are a minor vector for the disease.

I recently did the "deep dive" into the CoViD-19 data available from around the globe for my Master's course in Biochemistry, of peer-reviewed research and clinical studies that were also peer-reviewed. Each report of the 50+ reports and articles that specifically mentioned the age group 19 and below stated that ZERO evidence was observed in those age 19 and below spread the virus to anyone in their homes or to their grandparents. The only person below the age of 19 who died in the United States was a child who had the co-morbidity of diabetes. [The co-morbidities that are frequently mentioned in the news, but never explained are: 1) diabetes; 2) obesity; and 3) COPD/emphysema/previous lung damage (smoking/vaping) - kind of a complicated 3rd category, not of my personal making]

As I AM going to be teaching face-to-face this fall for dual credit calculus-based Physics [Classical Mechanics], dual credit Chemistry, Honors Physics, Honors Chemistry, and General Chemistry, it will be the countermeasures against spread of CoViD-19 being used to protect ALL of the children that will also protect those teachers like me who will be over the age of 60 this year and following years.

With 50 million tests being taken in the US, which is 15% of the US population, the death rate (if the tests are only one per person for the # tested {may not be a good assumption - a story for another time} that means the death rate is NOT 9%. When scaled using proper mathematical statistics {with no spin, because I have "skin in this game" - the game of life} the actual death rate is 0.5047%. This death rate is about 5 times the death rate of the 2018-2019 common flu (no coronavirus that year), and the bigger issue is the R-naught which is about three times the common flu rate. R-naught deals with how many people tend to have the virus spread to them via one infected person.

That all being said, my bigger concern is the introduction of visiting fans of sports being the vector of infection. No worries to be back in the classroom teaching chemistry and physics, as cleaning the classroom will be part of the curriculum, as well as presenting the CoViD-19 lesson plan that I developed to minimize fear among the students, as fear is a tremendous immune suppressant. A major portion of the lesson is the Icelandic CoViD-19 report - no spin there as well.

No fear! No worries!

Stay healthy, my friends!
 
Resolved cases have two outcomes: recovered or died. The numbers depend on the number of cases actually tested positive. With many in the population who have exhibited ZERO symptoms, the number of positive, actual cases is unknowable, but that is NOT bad news. Those who show no symptoms also have little shedding of the virus, therefore they are a minor vector for the disease.

I recently did the "deep dive" into the CoViD-19 data available from around the globe for my Master's course in Biochemistry, of peer-reviewed research and clinical studies that were also peer-reviewed. Each report of the 50+ reports and articles that specifically mentioned the age group 19 and below stated that ZERO evidence was observed in those age 19 and below spread the virus to anyone in their homes or to their grandparents. The only person below the age of 19 who died in the United States was a child who had the co-morbidity of diabetes. [The co-morbidities that are frequently mentioned in the news, but never explained are: 1) diabetes; 2) obesity; and 3) COPD/emphysema/previous lung damage (smoking/vaping) - kind of a complicated 3rd category, not of my personal making]

As I AM going to be teaching face-to-face this fall for dual credit calculus-based Physics [Classical Mechanics], dual credit Chemistry, Honors Physics, Honors Chemistry, and General Chemistry, it will be the countermeasures against spread of CoViD-19 being used to protect ALL of the children that will also protect those teachers like me who will be over the age of 60 this year and following years.

With 50 million tests being taken in the US, which is 15% of the US population, the death rate (if the tests are only one per person for the # tested {may not be a good assumption - a story for another time} that means the death rate is NOT 9%. When scaled using proper mathematical statistics {with no spin, because I have "skin in this game" - the game of life} the actual death rate is 0.5047%. This death rate is about 5 times the death rate of the 2018-2019 common flu (no coronavirus that year), and the bigger issue is the R-naught which is about three times the common flu rate. R-naught deals with how many people tend to have the virus spread to them via one infected person.

That all being said, my bigger concern is the introduction of visiting fans of sports being the vector of infection. No worries to be back in the classroom teaching chemistry and physics, as cleaning the classroom will be part of the curriculum, as well as presenting the CoViD-19 lesson plan that I developed to minimize fear among the students, as fear is a tremendous immune suppressant. A major portion of the lesson is the Icelandic CoViD-19 report - no spin there as well.

No fear! No worries!

Stay healthy, my friends!


WOW, I thoughtful, fact and research based post on CoVID, without an underlying political message.
Well done sir. well done indeed.
The fact that you are also a teacher gives me hope.
1,000 likes.
 
WOW, I thoughtful, fact and research based post on CoVID, without an underlying political message.
Well done sir. well done indeed.
The fact that you are also a teacher gives me hope.
1,000 likes.
Thanks for the 1000 likes!

We are removing attendance incentives that would make students want to be in class for fear of failing behind, instead of staying home when they are sick [CoViD or otherwise]. We are putting in place simultaneous streaming of classes while those who can be in class will be in class, and those who are out: quarantined/or just ill with other things will have the opportunity to watch on-line and contribute to the conversation via chat. Each class will now be block schedule, so only three transitions between classrooms will be required with staggered dismissals to avoid over-crowding in the hallways, and masks while in motion. Plus multiple other precautions for safety of "our family" of students, teachers, and staff.

It will be vital to maintain positive communication between students-teachers-parent-administration as we go forward.

Personally [for my chemistry and physics classes], those who can stay after school for help sessions in person will assist in building short 2 - 5 min videos on key information that was difficult for them or their friends/team mates to be posted at the end of the day via my YouTube channel to improve the entire class's ability to problem solve. Most of our high performing students are involved in sports, drama, student council, clubs, academic competitions, etc. so there is a high percentage of students who are not available for help sessions, and the YouTube channel will most likely fill up rapidly.....

Again, the goal is NOT to think like me, but have them think for themselves. When students come back to the High School to thank me for "launching them correctly" and are successful in college and launching their careers - sometimes in three years of college they are in a Master's program - I invite them to talk to my current classes. They are much more impactful in a positive way than any pep talk than I can give, because they are positive examples of "embracing the process" and achieving great success on the path that THEY are meant to go.
 
It might be stupid to open Disney for a bunch of reasons. Time will tell. They also won’t be getting much in the way of visitors who are too far away to drive there and pretty much no foreign visitors. And when my kids were about middle school age we went there this time of year and it was brutally hot..
To paraphrase the old, and oh so true adage, the answer to any of your questions is money.
 
Resolved cases have two outcomes: recovered or died. The numbers depend on the number of cases actually tested positive. With many in the population who have exhibited ZERO symptoms, the number of positive, actual cases is unknowable, but that is NOT bad news. Those who show no symptoms also have little shedding of the virus, therefore they are a minor vector for the disease.

I recently did the "deep dive" into the CoViD-19 data available from around the globe for my Master's course in Biochemistry, of peer-reviewed research and clinical studies that were also peer-reviewed. Each report of the 50+ reports and articles that specifically mentioned the age group 19 and below stated that ZERO evidence was observed in those age 19 and below spread the virus to anyone in their homes or to their grandparents. The only person below the age of 19 who died in the United States was a child who had the co-morbidity of diabetes. [The co-morbidities that are frequently mentioned in the news, but never explained are: 1) diabetes; 2) obesity; and 3) COPD/emphysema/previous lung damage (smoking/vaping) - kind of a complicated 3rd category, not of my personal making]

As I AM going to be teaching face-to-face this fall for dual credit calculus-based Physics [Classical Mechanics], dual credit Chemistry, Honors Physics, Honors Chemistry, and General Chemistry, it will be the countermeasures against spread of CoViD-19 being used to protect ALL of the children that will also protect those teachers like me who will be over the age of 60 this year and following years.

With 50 million tests being taken in the US, which is 15% of the US population, the death rate (if the tests are only one per person for the # tested {may not be a good assumption - a story for another time} that means the death rate is NOT 9%. When scaled using proper mathematical statistics {with no spin, because I have "skin in this game" - the game of life} the actual death rate is 0.5047%. This death rate is about 5 times the death rate of the 2018-2019 common flu (no coronavirus that year), and the bigger issue is the R-naught which is about three times the common flu rate. R-naught deals with how many people tend to have the virus spread to them via one infected person.

That all being said, my bigger concern is the introduction of visiting fans of sports being the vector of infection. No worries to be back in the classroom teaching chemistry and physics, as cleaning the classroom will be part of the curriculum, as well as presenting the CoViD-19 lesson plan that I developed to minimize fear among the students, as fear is a tremendous immune suppressant. A major portion of the lesson is the Icelandic CoViD-19 report - no spin there as well.

No fear! No worries!

Stay healthy, my friends!
So, my son is a college prof whose university hasn’t fully decided on how to handle class. Some will likely be in person, some remote. He also does field scientific research with grad students that make distancing sometimes hard. His 16 year old daughter, while otherwise healthy, has some ongoing lung issues stemming from a 9 week premature birth. His wife is a speech therapist working in an inner city school system with many students coming from populations most often affected by the virus. The present corona situation in their area is relatively well controlled at the moment, but not nonexistent.

I’m sure he, in his late forties, is far less worried about himself than he is about what he might bring back home. He is very careful right now, but viruses are sly little critters. I’m also sure a bunch of teachers have similar concerns. The school systems have to be exceptionally prudent about whether or how to open. My attitude toward this is the same as it is toward actuarial insurance stats. Nobody I know lives an actuarial life and while stats have some relevance, handling the risk appropriately can’t be completely stat driven.
 
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