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Bald Huskie said:
My son lives in Florida and a guy he plays golf with is a huge UConn donor. According to him, the Big12 will invite UConn. If that happens, will the Big12 allow SNY to televise our games?
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The B12 won't have a say. ESPN/Fox will decide.
 
For those of you who are new to this issue, the line about "doesn't travel well" is talking about when UConn played in the Fiesta Bowl game. Many UConn fans purchased tickets in the after market. So the school was left holding a lot of tickets. But to say the fans didn't go to the game is just wrong. There were a lot of us there.
 
Carnac said:
This thread will certainly generate a ton of responses. My first thought is how badly does UConn want to join a P5 conference, especially one whose member schools are mostly located in the midwest, and as the article mentions would have travel issues, and their football team is still rebuilding, and two, what is the projected financial health of the Big 12 in the next 5-10 years?

Is this a "Godfather" offer? Would this be a move UConn is willing to make, or are they better off for now staying put in the Big East and perhaps waiting for things to settle down in 2-3 years and then addressing the possibility of changing conferences (assuming an offer would still be on the table)?

The Big 12 is leaking oil and taking on water right now with the departure of Texas and Oklahoma. I’m not sure that is a vessel you want to board right now. I know UConn is eager to join a P5 conference, but I question if this would really benefit them in the long run. A better offer might be forthcoming down the road in a few years.
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Half the teams in the Big East are in the Mid West. Each B12 team is projected to receive $57-60MM by 2029. The conference will be getting additional football playoff money as a P5 conference. Thats without Texas and Oklahoma. Their commissioner is positioning the conference as a solid #3 behind SEC and B1G and wants a national conference. He wants UConn and the New York area market. They are the #3 WBB conference and #1 MBB conference. Most likely will be added to by some ACC leftovers when that conference implodes. The travel issue was regarding the Fiesta Bowl ticket and travel package fiasco issued by the school. It was very expensive. The story ran in the Courant and got picked up by the national media. Few bought it and it looked bad on paper, but many thousands of fans attended the game. Travel packages were purchased from third parties, fans of schools that did not make the bowl. UConn is getting less than $10MM from the Big East. The B12 is not leaking but looking to expand. You can't continue to run a P5 athletic department on G5 monies. UConn has many successful teams and if selected will have the financial resources to support those successes in the future.
 
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Alydar said:
The B12 won't have a say. ESPN/Fox will decide.
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The two G5 schools that will not dilute the distribution pool are SDSU and UConn. Exit money gets cut in half in a couple of years.
 
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I don't see how the Big 12 is shaping up to be the #3 conference. Look again at the post listing the schools, then subtract Texas and Oklahoma. What you are left with is really not that much.
 
nwhoopfan said:
I don't see how the Big 12 is shaping up to be the #3 conference. Look again at the post listing the schools, then subtract Texas and Oklahoma. What you are left with is really not that much.
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Nobody east of the Rockies gives a blank about the Pac12 er Pac10...48% of the population is in the east. 16% in the pacific. We are not going to be the only future candidates.
 
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zmart said:
Any chance all this Big 12 talk gets the ACC to beat them to the punch and offer us.
They need our basketball programs bad.
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No. As it is the revenue gap between the ACC and the SEC/Big 10 is growing. The last thing the league wants is to add more schools. Some schools have made noise about challenging the GOR clause in the agreement and the ACC responded with an undefined revenue sharing model that is supposed to give more successful schools more money under the media rights deal. We'll see how that works. The ACC's media rights deal expires in 2036 which is a big problem for the schools that think they should be making as much as SEC and Big 10 schools.
 
AzHusky said:
For those of you who are new to this issue, the line about "doesn't travel well" is talking about when UConn played in the Fiesta Bowl game. Many UConn fans purchased tickets in the after market. So the school was left holding a lot of tickets. But to say the fans didn't go to the game is just wrong. There were a lot of us there.
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Me too

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nwhoopfan said:
I don't see how the Big 12 is shaping up to be the #3 conference. Look again at the post listing the schools, then subtract Texas and Oklahoma. What you are left with is really not that much.
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Pac-12 just lost UCLA and USC (and maybe more). Multiple teams are projected to be poached from the ACC for SEC and B1G. There will be a Power2, and then 2 or 3 more. B12 is positioning itself to be the best of the rest.
 
HuskyNan said:
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The not traveling well indictment is easily solved and proven wrong. When the Huskies qualify for a bowl game and are invited, simply buy your tickets only from the school and then attend the game. Win or lose, most fans that attend their team’s bowl game have the time of their lives.
 
Well, if the ACC and the Pac 12 go away, then I guess the Big 12 would have to be #3 by default.
 
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Carnac said:
The not traveling well indictment is easily solved and proven wrong. When the Huskies qualify for a bowl game and are invited, simply buy your tickets only from the school and then attend the game. Win or lose, most fans that attend their team’s bowl game have the time of their lives.
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I bought 4 tickets to last year’s bowl game and donated them to military families/youth groups. UConn makes it easy to do so
 
nwhoopfan said:
Well, if the ACC and the Pac 12 go away, then I guess the Big 12 would have to be #3 by default.
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They won’t be going away, they’ll be just like B12 losing their top programs.
 
The people against the move to the Big 12 are free to write a check to the university every year for $40 million to pay for the deficit the Athletic Dept runs, or we just get rid of sports and just do the academic stuff and never have to care about these issues ever again.
 
Right now, at this moment, does UConn have a offer to join the Big 12? If it does, will this proposal be available for the public to review?

Until this officially happens, all this talk is just speculation and perhaps, hopeful thinking by some and negative thinking for those that contend that UConn is best off in the Big East.

It seems that it looks like that "money" will be be the deciding factor on both sides of the equation.
 
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AgStatesman said:
One question - will the state of CT populace turn out for home games to watch a lousy UConn team play the likes of Baylor, West Virginia, BYU, Oklahoma St. etc...?

What are the travel issues? Is it money or is it the amount of missed class time for student athletes? The B12 annual payout should make travel cost a moot point.

UConn needs to be in a big conference at some point. If an invite to the SEC or Big 10 is not on the table, I think the Big 12 is the next best option.
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SEC or Big 10 in football.....would be beyond brutal for UConn......
 
Urshurak said:
SEC or Big 10 in football.....would be beyond brutal for UConn......
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We’ll find out what the damage would be this year. Last year UConn got creamed by Top 10 Michigan, but to be fair, they lost their starting QB early in the game and replaced him with a true freshman. This season, the Huskies are taking on Tennessee. If UConn is healthy, we’ll see how they might measure up in the SEC
 
HuskyNan said:
We’ll find out what the damage would be this year. Last year UConn got creamed by Top 10 Michigan, but to be fair, they lost their starting QB early in the game and replaced him with a true freshman. This season, the Huskies are taking on Tennessee. If UConn is healthy, we’ll see how they might measure up in the SEC
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True. I can't talk....went to Texas A&M....who lost to App State...SIGH
 
For UCONN they really can't join a conference that doesn't get significant TV revenue. They will have to pay a ton to travel and they will also need to expand their recruiting efforts in Football so that sport can pay some of the bills. The Big 12 has a lot of good draws in each of the sports and could be a competitive improvement especially for the Men's and Women's BB teams.

If there is any chance of getting into the Big Ten I would wait and try to get in with them. The money in the Big Ten is massive and it would really benefit UCONN in a lot of ways. Adding USC and UCLA might make it possible to add a couple in the East.
 
Rowdy831 said:
If there is any chance of getting into the Big Ten I would wait and try to get in with them
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There doesn't appear to be any realistic chance of that happening. In any event being in the big 12 would not for close the opportunity to move up to the big two as we saw with Oklahoma and Texas.
 
veryolddog said:
Right now, at this moment, does UConn have a offer to join the Big 12? If it does, will this proposal be available for the public to review?

Until this officially happens, all this talk is just speculation and perhaps, hopeful thinking by some and negative thinking for those that contend that UConn is best off in the Big East.

It seems that it looks like that "money" will be be the deciding factor on both sides of the equation.
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I'll guarantee you'll never get to review it. And it's almost always the money that makes the difference.
 
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Rowdy831 said:
For UCONN they really can't join a conference that doesn't get significant TV revenue. They will have to pay a ton to travel and they will also need to expand their recruiting efforts in Football so that sport can pay some of the bills. The Big 12 has a lot of good draws in each of the sports and could be a competitive improvement especially for the Men's and Women's BB teams.

If there is any chance of getting into the Big Ten I would wait and try to get in with them. The money in the Big Ten is massive and it would really benefit UCONN in a lot of ways. Adding USC and UCLA might make it possible to add a couple in the East.
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They just added Rutgers and Maryland, in addition to longtime Penn St. If they're looking east again, it will be for UVA and UNC.
 
Carnac said:
simply buy your tickets only from the school and then attend the game.
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That's what I did. But can you really blame someone who could get better seats for a fraction of the price?
 
Carnac said:
One more consideration to think about before you get up and do your happy dance...............Exit Fees.

“We didn’t join the Big East to leave,” UConn athletic director David Benedict said back in May, 2020.
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Exit fees, while not nothing, aren't going to scuttle this deal. It's not worth worrying about, much less puttiing in bold. And of course we joined the Big East to leave. Everyone knows that was AD-speak from our AD.
 
HuskyNan said:
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Not sure "traveling well" is the issue. With all respect to my football friends, even with a depleted group of schools, UConn would likley have an issue for several years making a significant bowl game, if any. Most of the teams that are forecasted to remain are football schools and while we can take most on any given day in basketball, can't say I would bet much money on our anticipated football record.
 
HopJim said:
Not sure "traveling well" is the issue. With all respect to my football friends, even with a depleted group of schools, UConn would likley have an issue for several years making a significant bowl game, if any. Most of the teams that are forecasted to remain are football schools and while we can take most on any given day in basketball, can't say I would bet much money on our anticipated football record.
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You know that they made a bowl game this past year, right?
 
HopJim said:
Not sure "traveling well" is the issue. With all respect to my football friends, even with a depleted group of schools, UConn would likley have an issue for several years making a significant bowl game, if any. Most of the teams that are forecasted to remain are football schools and while we can take most on any given day in basketball, can't say I would bet much money on our anticipated football record.
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CL82 said:
You know that they made a bowl game this past year, right?
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And beat a ranked team and more FBS teams than the previous 10 years combined. This with 80% of a healthy roster
 
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