OT: Big 12 signs new media deal - $2.28 billion over 6 years

[CL82]

That is up to the school to figure out, not Ackerman. We know the answer. UConn is unlike any other Big East school. We hope to one day be in the power 5.

The conference media deal is negotiated by the conference commissioner. It probably is their most important function.

It is pretty unlikely that any other member of the Big East would become a member of the P5 since that is a term describing the top five football conferences in Connecticut is the only school that plays FBS football in the conference. So , until another school either jumps up to FPS or actually starts playing football, it’s probably pretty unlikely that they are harboring dreams of joining one of the main football playing conferences.

 

[freescooter]

The conference media deal is negotiated by the conference commissioner. It probably is their most important function.

It is pretty unlikely that any other member of the Big East would become a member of the P5 since that is a term describing the top five football conferences in Connecticut is the only school that plays FBS football in the conference. So , until another school either jumps up to FPS or actually starts playing football, it’s probably pretty unlikely that they are harboring dreams of joining one of the main football playing conferences.

I agree and that means they are no longer harboring dreams of winning championships. We don’t want to be one of them.

 

[freescooter]

You want us in a league with North Texas and UTSA. We heard you the first 1000 times.

Nope. I’m saying by letting our football program fall off a cliff rather than making success a priority we lost the chance to get into the B12. And our basketball program wont be protected anyway as the NEWBIE gets squeezed out.

 

[noeynox]

The conference media deal is negotiated by the conference commissioner. It probably is their most important function.

It is pretty unlikely that any other member of the Big East would become a member of the P5 since that is a term describing the top five football conferences in Connecticut is the only school that plays FBS football in the conference. So , until another school either jumps up to FPS or actually starts playing football, it’s probably pretty unlikely that they are harboring dreams of joining one of the main football playing conferences.

The answer is the school has to position themselves to get invited to a P5, not to expect Ackerman to deliver a TV contract on that level. The TV contract she did deliver dwarfs over that of similar conferences both in terms of money and exposure on linear TV and the quality of the production of the games.

 

[nickp91]

ESPN and FOX wanted the Big 12 enough to invest $2 billion in the product

 

[shizzle787]

Nope. I’m saying by letting our football program fall off a cliff rather than making success a priority we lost the chance to get into the B12. And our basketball program wont be protected anyway as the NEWBIE gets squeezed out.

The Big East isn’t getting squeezed out. People said the same thing 10 years ago. How did that work out?

 

[shizzle787]

ESPN and FOX wanted the Big 12 enough to invest $2 billion in the product

ESPN lost the B1G. They needed product.

 

[alexd]

It’s working damn well. Oregon State is not relevant to the conversation due to the state of the PAC12. Do you think that Rutgers or Vandy would rather go independent? They would not go for 31M, that would be a huge cut. Both of these schools hit the jackpot and they know it.

Rutgers is having their own $$$ issues

Rutgers athletics spends big — and builds big debt — to stay competitive in the Big Ten

NorthJersey.com has produced an investigative series revealing how Rutgers athletics has racked up debt, operating deficits and credit card bills.

www.northjersey.com

 

[aburks41]

I hope this is the final straw for Clemson, FSU, and Miami. They're now making the same as a bunch of schools that the B1G and SEC think aren't worthy of the $80M/yr payday. That's gotta sting...and they're "locked" into it until 2036. The Big 12, B1G, and SEC will all renegotiate a second deal in 2032ish before the ACC even has a chance to meet with the networks. There is going to be some more major movement here within the next few years. If Mora can get us to be a consistent 7-8 win team per year in a few years, we'll likely get the nod for the next round of expansion.

 

[Kitaman]

Paying billions for 'future' content makes me wonder how profitable Fox and ESPN really is. I know college football is huge but this is a staggering investment.

Me thinks the legal fees are even more staggering.

 

[Big East Fa]

Many need to slow down here. Holy cow!

-The Big Ten is now 39 games on FOX/FS1. New TV deal only goes up to 45 games Big Ten on FOX/FS1.

-The Pac-12 has only 22 basketball games on FS1. Many think that deal will be done in 2024.

-The MWC is 32 games on FS1. Deal goes to 2026.

We don't have a number for Big 12 games on FOX/FS1. My guess is around 30 games.

The Big East gives FOX/FS1 about 160 games. CBS/CBSSN gets 20 games from FOX Sports to boardcast Big East games. FOX/FS1 can't lose the Big East Conference.

 

[CL82]

The answer is the school has to position themselves to get invited to a P5, not to expect Ackerman to deliver a TV contract on that level. The TV contract she did deliver dwarfs over that of similar conferences both in terms of money and exposure on linear TV and the quality of the production of the games.

Fully agree. But somewhere between the $70 million plus that the big 10 is getting and the $4 1/2 million that the big east is getting there is a right number for the value of big east conference basketball. If Val Ackerman can’t get that above seven figures, it’s tough for me to say she is outstanding or great. Don’t get me wrong, I think she’s very good, certainly worlds better than Aresco, but in the world we live in media rights is probably the defining issue for conferences and the viability of their members.

 

[HuskyHawk]

The answer is the school has to position themselves to get invited to a P5, not to expect Ackerman to deliver a TV contract on that level. The TV contract she did deliver dwarfs over that of similar conferences both in terms of money and exposure on linear TV and the quality of the production of the games.

The path forward is the ACC. Ever since UConn blew any shot it had at the Big 12 (not a great fit to begin with) by being historically bad at football and not very good at basketball at the critical juncture, we've had one way out. Mora is doing what is needed. Hurley is trying to. Baseball is doing its job. Geno is winning despite injuries.

 

[CL82]

The path forward is the ACC. Ever since UConn blew any shot it had at the Big 12 (not a great fit to begin with) by being historically bad at football and not very good at basketball at the critical juncture, we've had one way out. Mora is doing what is needed. Hurley is trying to. Baseball is doing its job. Geno is winning despite injuries.

Agree except I’m not sure how we blew our chance with the big 12. Once BYU became toxic because of intolerance, the expansion plan collapsed. The fact that Connecticut was considered one of the finalists for a conference that is absolutely a horrible geographic fit for us speaks to our brand value.

In any event, the ACC is the way forward. We have a history with many of the teams in that league and some of them aren’t geographically miserable for us to get to. In all likelihood, we only join it after some of its top members leave to go to another conference. We won’t be making big 10 or SEC money, but at least we’ll be making enough to be relevant.

The university really should be making an all out press to become AAU so that we meet one of the “supposed“ criteria of the big 10. It is, of course, highly unlikely we would ever get an invite, but that would help at least nominally.

 

[John]

I’d take 31M for our tier 1-3. Let’s hope the ACC expands and gives us a call. Otherwise call the B12 hotline.

ACC or Bust.

 

[PNolanFan]

Our only move is to see what happens with the ACC. I am of the opinion that their implosion is inevitable. They have a few programs (Miami, FSU and Clemson) that the big 10/sec would let in immediately and then a few programs (UVA/UNC/ Va-Tech) that could fit in one of those conferences. I expect 3-6 of those schools to fill in the SEC and Big 10 to get them to 20, at which point I pray we are one of the 4 best options to fill out the countries best basketball conference. I have said it before and will say it again that my dream would be for the ACC to call up us west virginia and kansas to fill their holes

 

[aburks41]

Our only move is to see what happens with the ACC. I am of the opinion that their implosion is inevitable. They have a few programs (Miami, FSU and Clemson) that the big 10/sec would let in immediately and then a few programs (UVA/UNC/ Va-Tech) that could fit in one of those conferences. I expect 3-6 of those schools to fill in the SEC and Big 10 to get them to 20, at which point I pray we are one of the 4 best options to fill out the countries best basketball conference. I have said it before and will say it again that my dream would be for the ACC to call up us west virginia and kansas to fill their holes

Miami, FSU, and Clemson might get the axe from Florida and South Carolina. If the SEC requires unanimous support for accepting programs, they won't be getting in. Now of course Texas/OU/Bama/UGA could pressure them into it, but idk.

We might see those Miami/FSU/Clemson headed to the B1G so they can poach some SEC territory, and UVA/Vtech/UNC heading to the SEC which would take some of the DMV away from the B1G.

 

[noeynox]

Fully agree. But somewhere between the $70 million plus that the big 10 is getting and the $4 1/2 million that the big east is getting there is a right number for the value of big east conference basketball. If Val Ackerman can’t get that above seven figures, it’s tough for me to say she is outstanding or great. Don’t get me wrong, I think she’s very good, certainly worlds better than Aresco, but in the world we live in media rights is probably the defining issue for conferences and the viability of their members.

I'm thinking the Big East new deal will pay around 7 to 9 million. Double or close to double what they currently get best case scenario. Hopefully one day our independent football can get somewhere close to in the range of what BYU got as independent.

 

[How Sway?!]

Iirc it was reported that if the ACC expanded it would allow them to renegotiate the ESPN contract. If so, i feel like we would be in a good spot to receive an invite along with perhaps WVU.

 

[CTBasketball]

Let the ACC implode and let the Big East poach them!

 

[metsfan2323]

ACC or Bust.

What if the answer is Bust?

We already know there are several schools in the ACC who want UCONN football to die.

If the B12 throws UCONN a lifeline they would be fools to turn it down. Force the ACC to make a decision sooner rather than later. Never forget that so far the ACC's attitude has been the heck with UCONN.

 

[bendm]

BE needs to add gonzaga before the next media deal gets done. dont think it's a long term solution but it would buy us and the football team* a few more years to continue improving, by which time the acc hopefully implodes and backfills with us.

 

[Stinger92860]

Nothing better than fans arguing/bragging about TV money that means nothing to them

Don’t you understand the importance of the TV Money in sustaining a national sports brand? Some were suggesting that we drop football. I enjoy watchng and rooting for UConn sports at a national level. That requires money.

 

[don356]

Any university getting 30M+ is relevant.

I think they were #7 on the list of most wins between fball and bball the past 10 years. That's what got them there.

 

[don356]

I'm thinking the Big East new deal will pay around 7 to 9 million. Double or close to double what they currently get best case scenario. Hopefully one day our independent football can get somewhere close to in the range of what BYU got as independent.

No way that will be that high. Basketball numbers are so much different than football it's crazy. Outside of the tourney, economics won't be there. My prediction will be at best a nominal increase maybe 5.5mm. Only time will tell, but this football money is likely to siphon money from other pools. Yomark knows people. It pays to know people in that business. The other thing that is going to likely enhance football over basketball dollars hasn't kicked in and that is the expanded playoff. Likely to only drive football tv dollars and interest up.

 

[Waquoit]

I'm thinking we're gonna end up in the ACC. And the only reason UConn has any juice today is because we took that millstone off our neck 3 years ago.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I'm thinking we're gonna end up in the ACC. And the only reason UConn has any juice today is because we took that millstone off our neck 3 years ago.

And again last year.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Nope. I’m saying by letting our football program fall off a cliff rather than making success a priority we lost the chance to get into the B12. And our basketball program wont be protected anyway as the NEWBIE gets squeezed out.

Staying in the AAC as long as we did was causing all three major programs to fall off a cliff. Getting out of that southern mid-major league was making success a priority.

I don't think any program is feeling to stable right now in college sports. UConn is in as good a spot as it can be in given the circumstances, and maybe something will break our way in the next 10 years.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

It has been a good deal of luck but I will say the undergraduate enrollment at UC has been increasing every year since I graduated. I don’t know how much that matters but maybe paired with Cincinnati growing as a city in population as well. Fickell staying put did wonders obviously. I always felt we were one consistent coach away from hitting the jackpot like this.

Being a UConn and UC fan felt double painful after realignment so I’m hoping there is some way for Uconn to get in the ACC where they belong

The optics of the Randy hire in the minds of potential destinations along with going to a basketball conference seem to signal we were no longer a player.
Frankly I thought he was the caretaker assisting in the death of. football.
I’m not surprised by the B12 number but it exceeded my expectations 15-25 range .
When you factor in the potential $10,000,000 P5 schools may get football playoffs plus that will also be 8-10 team BB league
That’s a darn good payday
I thought if we focused on football in 2017-18 we would be in the B 12 .
Plus if successful there we would very desirable for multiple homes the next time the cards are shuffled.

 

[shizzle787]

What if the answer is Bust?

We already know there are several schools in the ACC who want UCONN football to die.

If the B12 throws UCONN a lifeline they would be fools to turn it down. Force the ACC to make a decision sooner rather than later. Never forget that so far the ACC's attitude has been the heck with UCONN.

I really don't know who these schools are. BC, Syracuse, Virginia, and the Carolina schools (sans Clemson) play us regularly in home and home series and there is a rumored series with Pitt. Ga Tech has played us before home and home as well. I don't think we are a spec of dust in Clemson, Miami, VaTech, or Florida State's eye. I guess you could be referring to Louisville, but I think they are indifferent towards us.