Big 12 Pushing For UConn Part Deux!

[aburks41]

But why wait on that to make UConn official? Are they hoping other pac 12 schools get interested?

Because this GoKU guy knows nothing. The B12 got CU already. If this was their plan, UConn’s invite would have came at the exact same time. McMurphy already told us what’s happening. We’re behind every single Pac school in the pecking order. 1 more Pac defection and it’s over for us

 

[businesslawyer]

But why wait on that to make UConn official? Are they hoping other pac 12 schools get interested?

If the plan was truly if Colorado comes, UConn will come too, we’ll know today. If not, our name was out there so other PAC schools knew that they better jump now before there wasn’t room. That much is clear.

The only thing we don’t know is whether the plan was to use us as bait ONLY, or whether after we are used to try to get other PAC schools we will be invited. I’ve made my hunch on that clear, but none of us know that. We will have to see it play out.

 

[ZooCougar]

Because this GoKU guy knows nothing. The B12 got CU already. If this was their plan, UConn’s invite would have came at the exact same time. McMurphy already told us what’s happening. We’re behind every single Pac school in the pecking order. 1 more Pac defection and it’s over for us

That’s what McMurphy believes. But the Athletic reported something different.

We will find out here pretty soon.

 

[ZooCougar]

Washington and Oregon are still pushing for the B1G.

The Arizonas may be content to hold depending on the media deal which probably gets worse with each passing minute.

I don’t buy Utah. The Big 12 already has BYU.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Does the Big 12 think they can land Oregon and Washington now? I sense a lot of arrogance with some B12 fans today because of the Colorado announcement. Some B12 fans are now thinking B12 can land Oregon and Washington.

I certainly hope Yormark is smarter than those fans. UCONN would give B12 access to the Northeast market. B12 just getting more eyeballs in the PST won't help with its national footprint.

It doesn't matter what fans on Twitter think.

 

[CL82]

Not my notion. As I said Dan Hurley is the man for the job and I truly believe he could be successful in any conference. But we won't be 1A in the B12 and that's meaningful

Which teams do you think we can't compete with? Because if we're winning games we're not 1A we are just #1.

For what it's worth, you do realize we were neither the regular season nor Big East Tournament champions this year, correct?

 

[BlueHen]

The B12, like the ACC knows UConn is for the taking anytime they want. They don’t need to grab us until the very last minute if need be. If the B12 can grab other PAC teams that they can pry away they will.
It just business.

I'm not sure that holds true if each conference thinks the other is also interested. If two conferences are interested in UConn there is a risk that the conference that waits could lose out. I have no idea if the ACC has any interest in UConn or not, but if they do, they should consider acting sooner rather than later.

 

[drayenob]

It hasn't changed. But if you can entice the Arizona schools to come along, you do it. Utah is the one that is getting screwed.

I appreciate the positivity! Do your sources have a timeline?

 

[HuskyHawk]

Which teams do you think we can't compete with? Because if we're winning games we're not 1A we are just #1.

For what it's worth, you do realize we were neither the regular season nor Big East Tournament champions this year, correct?

I don't even like the "Big Dog" argument. We re-joined the Big East when Jay Wright was still at Nova. At best we'd share the spotlight. We always did in the old Big East as well. This wouldn't be a change. Duke and UNC are better for being together.

 

[ZooCougar]

It doesn't matter what fans on Twitter think.

Fans on Twitter, fans on Reddit and most of these writers who are about to be replaced by ChatGPT do not matter.

These writers think they can read the tea leaves but they might be basing their analysis on old assumptions.

If Yormark is serious about the basketball thing. That means UConn, and little else.

The question is whether or not the Big 12 member institutions let him do it.

Of course this could also be a smokescreen and we are bait or we will get screwed in the 11th hour by Lucy.

 

[CL82]

I don't even like the "Big Dog" argument. We re-joined the Big East when Jay Wright was still at Nova. At best we'd share the spotlight. We always did in the old Big East as well. This wouldn't be a change. Duke and UNC are better for being together.

I feel like annual the UConn/Kansas home and away games become must see TV. That matchup is one of the things I am most looking forward to about (potentially) joining the big 12.

Plus, I kind of want to beat them. That 0-3 is annoying.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Fans on Twitter, fans on Reddit and most of these writers who are about to be replaced by ChatGPT do not matter.

These writers think they can read the tea leaves but they might be basing their analysis on old assumptions.

If Yormark is serious about the basketball thing. That means UConn, and little else.

The question is whether or not the Big 12 member institutions let him do it.

Of course this could also be a smokescreen and we are bait or we will get screwed in the 11th hour by Lucy.

Agreed - I'd only add that these "writers" (as opposed to journalists) need to make all sorts of multiple posts a day to generate views/likes/shares. It's just turned into a cesspool guesses, head fakes, bs info, etc.

 

[Tyler2Rings]

Which teams do you think we can't compete with? Because if we're winning games we're not 1A we are just #1.

For what it's worth, you do realize we were neither the regular season nor Big East Tournament champions this year, correct?

Haha, I don't miss mbb games so yes I know that. I also know we are 1-6 all time vs Creighton. And yet we are still seen as the face of the Big East. That dynamic is largely due to our history. People still think of Kemba's buzzer beater when they think of the Big East and BET.

Building a rapport that usurps Kansas for that position in the B12 will be tough. Even if we play the role of Creighton and beat them a bunch.

That said, bring it on

 

[HuskyHawk]

I feel like annual the UConn/Kansas home and away games become must see TV. That matchup is one of the things I am most looking forward to about (potentially) joining the big 12.

Plus, I kind of want to beat them. That 0-3 is annoying.

We can start the winning this December. That game would be like Duke/UNC every year.

How much time have we spent over the last 12 months talking about whether we have a rival anymore? Is PC one etc. Guess what, Mizzou is gone and Kansas doesn't have one either. Yes, K-State is a big game. But a true rival? No. They need one just like we do. It really could blossom into something epic.

 

[RSTuthill]

If the plan was truly if Colorado comes, UConn will come too, we’ll know today. If not, our name was out there so other PAC schools knew that they better jump now before there wasn’t room. That much is clear.

The only thing we don’t know is whether the plan was to use us as bait ONLY, or whether after we are used to try to get other PAC schools we will be invited. I’ve made my hunch on that clear, but none of us know that. We will have to see it play out.

Exactly.

 

[aburks41]

That’s what McMurphy believes. But the Athletic reported something different.

We will find out here pretty soon.

McMurphy is THE guy when it comes to CFB news and realignment.

 

[RSTuthill]

Talent is a big part of it, Deion's bringing a lot of it to Boulder. I'm a big fan of UConn's guy but he isn't bringing in nearly as much talent as Deion is.

UConn is a G5 Independent to put it bluntly. CO is a P5 albeit recently having their struggles. The levels are different. You are measuring apples and oranges. Let's see how Deion does before he gets the crown of program savior.

 

[GoKU]

Does the Big 12 think they can land Oregon and Washington now? I sense a lot of arrogance with some B12 fans today because of the Colorado announcement. Some B12 fans are now thinking B12 can land Oregon and Washington.

I certainly hope Yormark is smarter than those fans. UCONN would give B12 access to the Northeast market. B12 just getting more eyeballs in the PST won't help with its national footprint.

I haven't heard anything regarding those schools and the Big 12.

 

[uconnyankee]

If the plan was truly if Colorado comes, UConn will come too, we’ll know today. If not, our name was out there so other PAC schools knew that they better jump now before there wasn’t room. That much is clear.

The only thing we don’t know is whether the plan was to use us as bait ONLY, or whether after we are used to try to get other PAC schools we will be invited. I’ve made my hunch on that clear, but none of us know that. We will have to see it play out.

I agree for most part. The longer Big 12 waits, less likely UConn is next target. Doesn’t mean UConn won’t be next, just means others have to decide against Big 12.

What I don’t understand is ACC. We’re in their backyard. We would make ACC top BB conference by far. Academically it’s a fit.
They are dying on the vine.

You’d think they would work with ESPN to get UConn into fold. But instead they have nothing. Just proves they are all stuck for next 13 years just staying on current path.

UConn is a G5 Independent to put it bluntly. CO is a P5 albeit recently having their struggles. The levels are different. You are measuring apples and oranges. Let's see how Deion does before he gets the crown of program savior.

I think UConn is above G5. We are one of two former BCS schools not currently in P5 conference.
It’s clear the power players put an ‘*’ next to us but you can’t take away the history in Big East football. And while most said it would take a decade at least, UConn became competitive very quickly.
Then the BCS tag was taken away and UConn let the program flounder through three bad coaches.

 

[UConn Dan]

I haven't heard anything regarding those schools and the Big 12.

Ahhhh I’m sure a bunch of thought when you said this

“Where do Washington and Oregon go if the B1G doesn't offer?? Going to be interesting.”

You were referring to them finding a home in Big 12 but apparently not.

 

[businesslawyer]

I agree for most part. The longer Big 12 waits, less likely UConn is next target. Doesn’t mean UConn won’t be next, just means others have to decide against Big 12.

What I don’t understand is ACC. We’re in their backyard. We would make ACC top BB conference by far. Academically it’s a fit.
They are dying on the vine.

You’d think they would work with ESPN to get UConn into fold. But instead they have nothing. Just proves they are all stuck for next 13 years just staying on current path.

One of the silly oversimplifications that goes on here is that folks assume because something is the key driver for one conference, it will be the key driver for another. If and when the ACC wants to move to fortify hoops -- and that day might come if FSU and Clemson leave and their hoops slippage is more than temporary -- they will want us. Today, FSU and Clemson are still sitting there yelling football, football, football, and those schools probably hold the key to the conference. The ACC is not making a move to drive basketball anytime soon. And, the ACC taking us gets it into Connecticut but it's already in New England and the Northeast. They get much, much less of new exposure from us than the Big XII would.

 

[uconnyankee]

One of the silly oversimplifications that goes on here is that folks assume because something is the key driver for one conference, it will be the key driver for another. If and when the ACC wants to move to fortify hoops -- and that day might come if FSU and Clemson leave and their hoops slippage is more than temporary -- they will want us. Today, FSU and Clemson are still sitting there yelling football, football, football, and those schools probably hold the key to the conference. The ACC is not making a move to drive basketball anytime soon. And, the ACC taking us gets it into Connecticut but it's already in New England and the Northeast. They get much, much less of new exposure from us than the Big XII would.

I get all that.
But Clemson and FSU are gone. It would seem an interesting case to be made if they are moving to unequal revenue to let UConn come in at reduced rate and carry its own weight for a few years. Sure football needs some Mora Magic, but what better time to do that. You’ve got 10+ years.

Don’t expect Uconn to be some miracle pill in 10 years after you’ve done everything to prevent its football progress. And, it’s likely Uconn would contribute on bb side with NYC exposure, tourney credits, and geography.

Yes every conference has different value props. But I don’t see how UConn is more valuable to Big 12 than ACC. I get the whole football thing. I just think the difference is Yormark is willing to sell value of BB and has a plan to do just that where ACC is paralyzed with placating members for fear of defection. Big 12 is also a fb first conference don’t forget. Clemson and FSU views are shared by Okie State, TT, and TCU.

 

[CL82]

Haha, I don't miss mbb games so yes I know that. I also know we are 1-6 all time vs Creighton. And yet we are still seen as the face of the Big East. That dynamic is largely due to our history. People still think of Kemba's buzzer beater when they think of the Big East and BET.

Building a rapport that usurps Kansas for that position in the B12 will be tough. Even if we play the role of Creighton and beat them a bunch.

That said, bring it on

Ha ha, I wanted to like this but your last sentence made me puke a little in my mouth.

Son, we are the five time national champion Connecticut Huskies in the reigning national champ. When that's your résumé…

 

[superjohn]

UConn is a G5 Independent to put it bluntly. CO is a P5 albeit recently having their struggles. The levels are different. You are measuring apples and oranges. Let's see how Deion does before he gets the crown of program savior.

You're the one who brought UConn/Mora into it.

 

[auggie22]

I think the B12 calculations on Oregon and UW are complex. B12 is the hunter now because they are stable. If they add teams who they know will leave (if they believe as many do that those teams are destined for B1G) then they are creating instability down the road. The next time the ACC may be the hunter.

 

[businesslawyer]

I get all that.
But Clemson and FSU are gone. It would seem an interesting case to be made if they are moving to unequal revenue to let UConn come in at reduced rate and carry its own weight for a few years. Sure football needs some Mora Magic, but what better time to do that. You’ve got 10+ years.

Don’t expect Uconn to be some miracle pill in 10 years after you’ve done everything to prevent its football progress. And, it’s likely Uconn would contribute on bb side with NYC exposure, tourney credits, and geography.

Yes every conference has different value props. But I don’t see how UConn is more valuable to Big 12 than ACC. I get the whole football thing. I just think the difference is Yormark is willing to sell value of BB and has a plan to do just that where ACC is paralyzed with placating members for fear of defection. Big 12 is also a fb first conference don’t forget. Clemson and FSU views are shared by Okie State, TT, and TCU.

LOL. You've made my point fairly well as to why I still don't think a Big XII invite is coming. But we'll see.

 

[CL82]

One of the silly oversimplifications that goes on here is that folks assume because something is the key driver for one conference, it will be the key driver for another. If and when the ACC wants to move to fortify hoops -- and that day might come if FSU and Clemson leave and their hoops slippage is more than temporary -- they will want us. Today, FSU and Clemson are still sitting there yelling football, football, football, and those schools probably hold the key to the conference. The ACC is not making a move to drive basketball anytime soon. And, the ACC taking us gets it into Connecticut but it's already in New England and the Northeast. They get much, much less of new exposure from us than the Big XII would.

Is the ACC in the northeast in New England? Other than us I can't think of a New England school that plays meaningful basketball.

Fully agree, though, that the "realignment key factor" drifts like smoke in the wind. In any event, if ESPN wanted us in the ACC, we'd be there. Likewise if ESPN wants us in the big 12, we will get in. There will be nothing altruistic about it, if it happens, it will just be in their corporate interest. (Fully aware that fox has a share of big 12 games)

 

[kemba]

That’s what McMurphy believes. But the Athletic reported something different.

We will find out here pretty soon.

Didn’t the athletic come to the same conclusion? The article included a lot of positive stuff about UConn and why Yormark values us but ultimately I read it as he’ll push hard for us only if the pac 12 schools say no.

 

[RSTuthill]

I think UConn is above G5. We are one of two former BCS schools not currently in P5 conference.
It’s clear the power players put an ‘*’ next to us but you can’t take away the history in Big East football. And while most said it would take a decade at least, UConn became competitive very quickly.
Then the BCS tag was taken away and UConn let the program flounder through three bad coaches.

Certainly that case could be made. But even if we take last year's football results as the measure of current status, they are no better than mid level G5. And that is how UConn is currently perceived. BB does not move the needle on that perception.

 

[RSTuthill]

You're the one who brought UConn/Mora into it.

Your point?