The B12 basketball is very good, so this isn't like the American...but people who don't get how having historic rivals who focus on basketball and regularly playing at MSG is—in an ideal, money-free world—better are crazy.Is this a serious question?
Yes. How is being in some conference full of tiny Catholic schools no one gives a s*it about toiling away for peanuts better than joining a power conference that is the best basketball conference in the country and pays its schools north of $30 million a year? At the very least, if you care about basketball, wouldn't you want to be in the best conference for said sport?
Not bad. They gave me a smartphone.How’s life going in solitary confinement anyway?
I would too, if that reduced share was due to our buying in and established network in the repayment of our exit fees which they fronted for us, which was the reason why Rutgers got a reduced share. So, yeah, if the big 12 wants to pay us say $30 million upfront, and give us the opportunity to pay them back out of future earnings at no interest cost to us, I'm all in. I guess they'd have to establish a net work first, though, before we could buy into it.If the Big 12 offered UConn a spot at a reduced amount like the Big 10 did to Rutgers Id be okay.
Rutgers needed a few to work up to equal conference share value
We're not talking about money, the guy brought up a hypothetical we all know can't happen. The Big 12 is amazing for Kansas basketball, the Big East is amazing for UConn basketball. If you think leaving a conference which revolves around NYC and Madison Square Garden where UConn are kings for a conference which revolves around the the Plains where Kansas are kings and there will be no impact, you're clueless.Yes. How is being in some conference full of tiny Catholic schools no one gives a s*it about toiling away for peanuts better than joining a power conference that is the best basketball conference in the country and pays its schools north of $30 million a year? At the very least, if you care about basketball, wouldn't you want to be in the best conference for said sport?
Guys, just like @upstater said, give it 45 years and you'll feel the same about Kansas State as we do Seton Hall today.
I'll check back in when I turn 82 to get a litmus test.
45 years? Just my two cents but Seton Hall is in a group with DePaul and Butler as our most boring conference opponents. Kansas State and their current coach will surpass them in game one.
So it's going to take K St 45 years to become completely irrelevant? I can live with that.Guys, just like @upstater said, give it 45 years and you'll feel the same about Kansas State as we do Seton Hall today.
I'll check back in when I turn 82 to get a litmus test.
I almost took a post grad class at Seton Hall to spare us the hassle of going into New York City where we were going to school at the time. I went to the first class and, let's just say it was less than impressive. The coworker that I had convinced to go with me was mad at me for a while.You don't understand because you never took a semester and a half at Seton Hall.
But I'll feel better about playing Kansas in 10 seconds.Guys, just like @upstater said, give it 45 years and you'll feel the same about Kansas State as we do Seton Hall today.
I'll check back in when I turn 82 to get a litmus test.
I already care more about Kansas State than Seton Hall, so that was quick.Guys, just like @upstater said, give it 45 years and you'll feel the same about Kansas State as we do Seton Hall today.
I'll check back in when I turn 82 to get a litmus test.
This article will certainly help his case:![]()
After Big 12 adds Colorado, what’s next? Pac-12 schools targets, but don’t sleep on UConn
Step one in Big 12 expansion is adding Colorado. Though a Pac-12 school could be targeted next, Brett Yormark also likes the idea of UConn.theathletic.com
If Colorado is the only Pac-12 member coming in, don’t be surprised if Yormark goes all-in on UConn. All the political capital he’s gaining in the eyes of his league presidents, chancellors and ADs from pulling off this Colorado move? Conference sources believe that’s where he wants to spend it.
But Yormark sees an entry point into New York City. He sees a dominant basketball conference and big-time events at Madison Square Garden. He sees a future in which the Big 12 makes more money down the road by decoupling its media rights package and selling its basketball rights separately. Conference sources say he sees a sort of buy-low opportunity here, a bet that the Big 12 investing in UConn over the rest of the decade will drive up the conference’s value. For him, there’s no hesitation. There’s real conviction.
Somehow, in our society at the moment, something has to be all good or all bad. No one wants to hear the flaws of a good plan or the benefits of a bad one.The B12 basketball is very good, so this isn't like the American...but people who don't get how having historic rivals who focus on basketball and regularly playing at MSG is—in an ideal, money-free world—better are crazy.
This^^. And does anyone have any doubt that we can easily book OOC games against 'Nova and G-Town? They'll be crazy to play their old conferene rival who now beats Kansas twice a year. They'll be fighting to maintain their relevance as the have/have-not gap widens.But I'll feel better about playing Kansas in 10 seconds.
That will get UNC/Duke billing.
Kentucky will watch on jealously.
Are you so blind you don't see the potential?
Players are going to want to be a part of the 2 must see TV games of the year.
No one is an exaggeration which even in this thread has been shown to be inaccurate.Somehow, in our society at the moment, something has to be all good or all bad. No one wants to hear the flaws of a good plan or the benefits of a bad one.
You are correct that no one was not a literal statement but an exaggeration. A better phrase would have been Far too many people.No one is an exaggeration which even in this thread has been shown to be inaccurate.
And people making arguments for a position throughout history tend to ignore, dismiss or minimize points that undermine their position.
And does anyone have any doubt that we can easily book OOC games against 'Nova and G-Town?
There are definitely advantages to having UConn in a tournament played at MSG over Kansas. Perhaps recruiting might benefit from it as well. But the most important factor is success or failure.The B12 basketball is very good, so this isn't like the American...but people who don't get how having historic rivals who focus on basketball and regularly playing at MSG is—in an ideal, money-free world—better are crazy.
Nope.This^^. And does anyone have any doubt that we can easily book OOC games against 'Nova and G-Town? They'll be crazy to play their old conferene rival who now beats Kansas twice a year. They'll be fighting to maintain their relevance as the have/have-not gap widens.
I can foresee a nice cycle of OOC's against Big East and ACC/Old Big East Rivals happening. It wouldn't surprise me if Yormark hasn't already envisioned a special MSG event, maybe an early season invitational? How about a B12/BE challenge?
Looking forward is way more exciting than slowly fading into irrelevance fawning over the irreproducible past.
Not a problemNope.
We won't be getting many, if any, games against Big East teams if we go to the Big 12.