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Big 12 no longer an option

rman726 said:
Check out the salaries of NBA players, and just sports in general. They are absolutely exploding. That’s the future. And it’s going to eventually make its way down to college sports. The NCAA is losing all control over the NIL situation.

We are fine now. What about when the top 100 players in the country are demanding $5 mil a year by 2030?
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I’m with the ACC and hopefully them being able to keep UNC.

We get money. Cuse, Pitt, BC, Ville, and other OBE rivalries back. Add Duke (how fun would it be to play them twice a year) and maybe UNC. Have a travel schedule that makes sense

ACC or Big Ten us. Big Year for Mora to do his part. Football team almost literally playing for their lives this year.
 
Mister P said:
Since this is the Basketball Forum I’ll say, “who cares”…F the Big 12.

We are still in an elite basketball conference with a storied and proven past and I think most of us would rather play BB in the BE where our past history started. We will still have national recognition, we will still recruit top players and the BE will still resonate with local and national kids.

As a UConn basketball fan I have no problem staying where we are (AS LONG AS THE COLLEGE BASKETBALL WORLD DOESN’T CHANGE AROUND US).
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I fixed it for you. The world might not change around us for another 20 years. Maybe all the football money will continue to be spent only for football and the Big East schools can continue to spend us much as the P-4 schools on hoops. Maybe there will never be a breakaway from the NCAA and we can continue to compete against the P-4 schools. That is a realistic possibility.

Unfortunately, it is not the only realistic possibility, and pretending it is doesn’t get us anywhere if it turns out not to be so.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
I’m with the ACC and hopefully them being able to keep UNC.

We get money. Cuse, Pitt, BC, Ville, and other OBE rivalries back. Add Duke (how fun would it be to play them twice a year) and maybe UNC. Have a travel schedule that makes sense

ACC or Big Ten us. Big Year for Mora to do his part. Football team almost literally playing for their lives this year.
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ACC is always on the verge of being dismantled
 
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HuskyWarrior611 said:
I agree. But it at least puts us in line to get picked from when it does to give us a better chance.
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And what kind of media deal would the leftovers get after that happens?

For a hint, refer to the PAC leftovers dying on the vine right now
 
king conn said:
We don't know if the world ends tomorrow either

All we can do is extrapolate from what has happened so far
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You're talking about media deals, you really think it's going to look anything like it looks now in the future when the ACC busts up?

Why bring it up?
 
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superjohn said:
You're talking about media deals, you really think it's going to look anything like it looks now in the future when the ACC busts up?

Why bring it up?
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Um yes, it's pretty obvious, and the biggest will only get bigger.

Why bring it up? Are you serious with this? If you haven't noticed, we are on the outside right now.
Looking to hook up with others on the outside is not something to hope for
 
king conn said:
Um yes, it's pretty obvious, and the biggest will only get bigger.

Why bring it up? Are you serious with this? If you haven't noticed, we are on the outside right now.
Looking to hook up with others on the outside is not something to hope for
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I ask why you bring it up because the premise is stupid. You're talking about the value of a linear TV contract in a future where linear TV isn't the future.
 
You just inserted the word linear, and then called it stupid. Your go to method in all your posts

Whoever is paying. Linear, streaming, will pay the top dollar to who they perceive to be the best conferences. Those will be who controls the CFB playoffs, the autonomous conferences. Nobody is going to abandon fiscal responsibility and throw billions at a conference of scraps

To believe otherwise is beyond stupid
 
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king conn said:
You just inserted the word linear, and then called it stupid. Your go to method in all your posts

Whoever is paying. Linear, streaming, will pay the top dollar to who they perceive to be the best conferences. Those will be who controls the CFB playoffs, the autonomous conferences. Nobody is going to abandon fiscal responsibility and throw billions at a conference of scraps

To believe otherwise is beyond stupid
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To believe any of this looks like it does now is beyond stupid.
 
Personally I'm sick and tired of waiting for an invite and being used by the Power 4 teams to add to their respective leagues. It's time for UConn and the Big East to get creative. This is what I would do.

First invite Gonzaga, Stanford, Cal, Washington St. and Oregon State to the Big East and put them in a West Division that includes: Creighton, DePaul, Marquette. The rest of the Big East is in a East Division. You play those teams in your own division twice and each of the other division once. Alternating home and away each year.

In football UConn, Stanford, Cal, Washington St. and Oregon State all agree to play each other once while they fill up the rest of their schedule with independents and buy games.

Next, you talk with Syracuse, Boston College and Pitt and tell them that when the ACC breaks apart and they are left high and dry that you will take them back. At the same time your talking to San Diego State and tell them that you have a spot waiting for them. Then you wait for the ACC to dissolve, take back the former Big East teams and add San Diego State. Move Xavier, Butler and San Diego State to the West Division and continue with the play 2 in your division format and play 1 in the other division.

Now you have 9 football teams that play each other once a year and fill your remaining schedule with buy games. Negotiate your own football TV deal.

I'm just saying it's better then just waiting around for something that is never going to come.
 
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Alum1620 said:
Big 12 leaving UConn, Gonzaga behind in conference realignment will prove best for both in long run
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I believe the headline only..Done reading anymore articles about realignment....We would have always been an outsider in the Big 12...good luck to them...We'll see how all these mega tv mega conference deals work out..See some Big 10,12, 14, or 16 fans are already pissed that some of their games this year will be streamed only ( Peacock? )...great way to lose excitement...we'll do better next time ACC? Big whatever, football only conference plus NBE???? who knows
 
Hoopcrazee said:
I believe the headline only..Done reading anymore articles about realignment....We would have always been an outsider in the Big 12...good luck to them...We'll see how all these mega tv mega conference deals work out..See some Big 10,12, 14, or 16 fans are already pissed that some of their games this year will be streamed only ( Peacock? )...great way to lose excitement...we'll do better next time ACC? Big whatever, football only conference plus NBE???? who knows
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I think this is the high point for network deals, they're dying and will continue to die. This is still the early stages of all this stuff. If the lawyers and gov't don't get involved and we don't get back to regionality the future is going to be about brands. They won't continue the gravy train for all these suck programs and brands will be paid.
 
Or we could all not worry or postulate on those things we have no control over. In the end this was the best outcome because UConn remains clear of any drama. Had we gotten the invite and accepted as we would have left a trail of haters and bad karma. Now we can focus on what we do best. Being the capital of the CBB world. FF for men and women in 2024. Page ncaa women’s poy and DC dominates while Steph plays like a top five freshman. Karaban ceiling is still rising. 6’8” unlimited range better than average at going to the hoop, great passer. I could see him being our star player next year.
 
This conference speculation, and that's what it has always been is useless. Talking about it when there's substance is one thing but how many here knew football wasn't invited? There wouldn't have been a thread here if that was known by us on day 1. The Big 12 certainly knew we wouldn't leave for basketball only, so they weren't serious.
 
superjohn said:
I think this is the high point for network deals, they're dying and will continue to die. This is still the early stages of all this stuff. If the lawyers and gov't don't get involved and we don't get back to regionality the future is going to be about brands. They won't continue the gravy train for all these suck programs and brands will be paid.
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You may be right but I’d still rather have a home in one of these super conferences than not. You cannot in all seriousness say we are in a great position right now.
 
Uconn10922 said:
Personally I'm sick and tired of waiting for an invite and being used by the Power 4 teams to add to their respective leagues. It's time for UConn and the Big East to get creative. This is what I would do.

First invite Gonzaga, Stanford, Cal, Washington St. and Oregon State to the Big East and put them in a West Division that includes: Creighton, DePaul, Marquette. The rest of the Big East is in a East Division. You play those teams in your own division twice and each of the other division once. Alternating home and away each year.

In football UConn, Stanford, Cal, Washington St. and Oregon State all agree to play each other once while they fill up the rest of their schedule with independents and buy games.

Next, you talk with Syracuse, Boston College and Pitt and tell them that when the ACC breaks apart and they are left high and dry that you will take them back. At the same time your talking to San Diego State and tell them that you have a spot waiting for them. Then you wait for the ACC to dissolve, take back the former Big East teams and add San Diego State. Move Xavier, Butler and San Diego State to the West Division and continue with the play 2 in your division format and play 1 in the other division.

Now you have 9 football teams that play each other once a year and fill your remaining schedule with buy games. Negotiate your own football TV deal.

I'm just saying it's better then just waiting around for something that is never going to come.
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So, there was this guy on the internet who had a plan to increase our travel costs to around $12M a year.

You know this is dumb, right?
 
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As a fan I am very happy right where we are. I love BIG EAST basketball. We are at home here. No other conference in the nation is playing a better brand or higher level of basketball than the BIG EAST. We have both historic and newer emerging rivals within the conference that provide the highest levels of competition and parity. The powers that be should continue to work earnestly to continue to improve the conference and it's income potential.
 
Son of Robert said:
As a fan I am very happy right where we are. I love BIG EAST basketball. We are at home here. No other conference in the nation is playing a better brand or higher level of basketball than the BIG EAST. We have both historic and newer emerging rivals within the conference that provide the highest levels of competition and parity. The powers that be should continue to work earnestly to continue to improve the conference and it's income potential.
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Definitely dodged a bullet avoiding the Big 12. They're an awful basketball conference, bottom of the barrel.

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Read this from Wikipedia on Howard Schnellenberger and Lousivlle.:

In 1985, Schnellenberger returned to his hometown to coach another struggling program, the University of Louisville Cardinals. Schnellenberger inherited a situation that was as bad, if not worse, than what he'd inherited at Miami. The Cardinals had not had a winning season since 1978, and only two winning records in the previous 12 years. They played at Cardinal Stadium, a minor-league baseball stadium, and often hosted crowds so small that the school was forced to give tickets away. They also played in the long shadow of the school's powerful men's basketball team.[25] The situation was so grave at Louisville that officials were considering dropping the football program down to NCAA Division I-AA. Nonetheless, at his opening press conference, he stunned reporters and fans by proclaiming the program "is on a collision course with the national championship. The only variable is time."

Louisville was an independent when Schnellenberger was hired in 1985 and joined CUSA in 1996, Big East in 2005, and ACC in 2014.

We can only control what we control. We can attend UConn games, donate to the athletic department, watch games on TV,... All of us knew that the UConn football narrative needs to be improved and we are headed in that direction, but it will take time.
 
king conn said:
You just inserted the word linear, and then called it stupid. Your go to method in all your posts

Whoever is paying. Linear, streaming, will pay the top dollar to who they perceive to be the best conferences. Those will be who controls the CFB playoffs, the autonomous conferences. Nobody is going to abandon fiscal responsibility and throw billions at a conference of scraps

To believe otherwise is beyond stupid
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If college sports could have gotten away with us all watching the same 10 schools play every weekend, we would already be watching the same 10 schools play every weekend.
 
king conn said:
Um yes, it's pretty obvious, and the biggest will only get bigger.

Why bring it up? Are you serious with this? If you haven't noticed, we are on the outside right now.
Looking to hook up with others on the outside is not something to hope for
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You don’t know who we would end up in a conference with if the ACC breaks up….is it Syracuse duke Virginia and Pitt or is it wake forest and bc…..until there are tea leaves to read your no
More accurate than anyone else
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
I agree. But it at least puts us in line to get picked from when it does to give us a better chance.
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We have been waiting in line for more than a decade and the ticket window always closes when UConn is next. What makes anyone now think it will change? The current P5's will always jump the line it seems.
 
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