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I always think the geography argument for keeping a team like UConn out is bizarre from a Big 12 perspective.

Say UConn is added and we begin playing Big 12 hoops, football, men's soccer, softball, baseball, men's and women's tennis. Those are the sports that UConn has that are sponsored by the Big 12.

If you are TCU during any given athletic season you aren't sending every single one of these teams to CT to play. If the Big 12 goes to 14, you can count on sending one of two basketball teams, baseball, softball and tennis (typically men and women travel together) once a year for sure. Alternate football and soccer every other year and most years you're sending 4-6 of your teams to Connecticut to compete.

This is going to break an athletic departments bank? 4-6 trips a year? No freakin way.

The issue of Geography is an "issue" for teams like WVU and possibly UConn who are looking at probably 20+ trips to Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas annually.

So, really the Geography "problem" isn't a problem for the existing Big 12 membership. It's a strawman argument, in my opinion.

Edit: I missed Swimming & Diving, Golf and Track & Field initially. So if you're TCU you are looking at 7-9 trips a year. Still for an entire athletic department, that's not going to break your bank.
 
FSU President Barron sent an email to FSU fans/boosters stating that it would cost about an additional $2 million in travel to play in the Big 12.

From Barron's report to FSU BOT as reported in 2012...

Cost analysis: Barron estimates a $2 million increase in its travel budget with a move to the Big 12, going from the current figure of $4.975 million to $6.988 million. A FSU official told Warchant.com that the $4.975 million figure does not include travel costs for NCAA postseason play. Barron also acknowledges that while the pending Big 12 TV contract is rumored to pay out about $20 million per team, "we might speculate that a single new school of sufficient caliber who would make a Big-12 contract worth $22 million. - the total value obviously depends on the number of new teams and their market. So, net over the ACC could be $5M - compared to change in travel costs and payback."
 
billybud said:
FSU President Barron sent an email to FSU fans/boosters stating that it would cost about an additional $2 million in travel to play in the Big 12.

From Barron's report to FSU BOT as reported in 2012...

Cost analysis: Barron estimates a $2 million increase in its travel budget with a move to the Big 12, going from the current figure of $4.975 million to $6.988 million. A FSU official told Warchant.com that the $4.975 million figure does not include travel costs for NCAA postseason play. Barron also acknowledges that while the pending Big 12 TV contract is rumored to pay out about $20 million per team, "we might speculate that a single new school of sufficient caliber who would make a Big-12 contract worth $22 million. - the total value obviously depends on the number of new teams and their market. So, net over the ACC could be $5M - compared to change in travel costs and payback."
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So $2 million more in travel for a school located in Tallahassee, Florida to join the Big 12, where they would be sending all their Varsity Sports to Texas and the plains states for an entire academic year.

For existing Big 12 members to send their teams to CT a fraction of the # of times that FSU would have hypothetically travelled into Big 12 country, I think it's fair to estimate that cost at around an additional $250K per year - something each existing Big 12 school would recoup in adding a national brand like UConn.
 
The charter flights for baseball, football, basketball, women's BB, women's soccer, and women's volleyball made up the bulk of the expense for FSU...

As you stated, for Big 12, it would be spread among many programs and no one program would bear the burden...depending on division alignment, different teams would be affected to a much lesser extent than UConn travelling.
 
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Looks like @ECUAthletics would be an excellent travel partner along with @WVUSports!
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Honestly, if I were UConn I would offer a credit for excessive travel for the B12 teams. Certainly there is cost for any to travel and stay, but if avg. charter in current conference is say $50k and will be $75k to UConn why not offer credits. Can't be more than $500-1m annually.



billybud said:
The charter flights for baseball, football, basketball, women's BB, women's soccer, and women's volleyball made up the bulk of the expense for FSU...

As you stated, for Big 12, it would be spread among many programs and no one program would bear the burden...depending on division alignment, different teams would be affected to a much lesser extent than UConn travelling.
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UConnTrumbull said:
Epic slap in the face to Aresco. Especially when they have 0% chance of getting in. Would be like me leaving a job application for CEO of another company on my bosses desk.
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How is that? What does ECU care about Aresco's feelings? What can Aresco do to ECU?

If I'm ECU why wouldn't I pretend I can be a candidate?

Mike Aresco would leave tomorrow for the Big 12 himself.
 
whaler11 said:
How is that? What does ECU care about Aresco's feelings? What can Aresco do to ECU?

If I'm ECU why wouldn't I pretend I can be a candidate?

Mike Aresco would leave tomorrow for the Big 12 himself.
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So it's NOT a slap in his face?
 
UConnTrumbull said:
So it's NOT a slap in his face?
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That ECU would rather be in the Big 12 than the American?

I'm pretty sure Mike Aresco knows that. Should we be all be insulted he would rather be the commissioner of the Pac 12?

Half the teams in the league are holding a public campaign - the other half are holding a private campaign.

Why would Aresco take any of it personally?
 
whaler11 said:
That ECU would rather be in the Big 12 than the American?

I'm pretty sure Mike Aresco knows that. Should we be all be insulted he would rather be the commissioner of the Pac 12?

Half the teams in the league are holding a public campaign - the other half are holding a private campaign.

Why would Aresco take any of it personally?
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I think it's pretty lame to be doing that on social media. Maybe that's what bothered me most about it. I don't mind lobbying to a better conference but using Twitter to do so just felt childish.
 
upstater said:
Greenville to Morgantown, 475 miles.
Storrs to Morgantown, 528 miles.

Greenville Airport versus Bradley?
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Greenville barely flies anywhere - they'd have to stop over in DC.
 
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jbreen said:
the coldest game was Houston. I was freezing my ass off until i stormed the field
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I mean, maybe you're right. I think the temperature was nearly 70 during the tailgate. Given it was the middle of November, it must have cooled off a bit. I remember someone in my group wanted to leave his sweatshirt in the car...
 
Can't we put up a picture of the Willimantic Motor Inn? That'll seal the deal.
 
Have to scroll down but short take on UConn

"With UConn, I’m being swayed here by a conversation I had with a TV executive this summer about the benefits of being in that part of the country. School administrators don’t like the hassle of being that spread out, but TV networks like the time zone flexibility, and anyone who’s paying attention realizes how much more power and influence TV networks have than school administrators."

Read more here: Mellinger Minutes: Royals at the trade deadline, Chiefs at training camp, Big 12 expansion and more
 
Clockshop said:
Have to scroll down but short take on UConn

"With UConn, I’m being swayed here by a conversation I had with a TV executive this summer about the benefits of being in that part of the country. School administrators don’t like the hassle of being that spread out, but TV networks like the time zone flexibility, and anyone who’s paying attention realizes how much more power and influence TV networks have than school administrators."

Read more here: Mellinger Minutes: Royals at the trade deadline, Chiefs at training camp, Big 12 expansion and more
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Nice find. A return to Big Monday.
 
I like the idea of a beautiful Saturday afternoon in October when the University of Texas Longhorns or Oklahoma Sooners come to East Hartford and BC is playing at Wake Forest.
 
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Can we also claim the entire state of PA, since Penn State's colors are the same as ours?
 
Colorado St
Memphis
Houston
Cincy

Just dominating those home states. Does Houston have a dot of red?
 
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