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Charley Horse said:
While I can see the point you're trying to make and I agree that geography as a barrier is way overblown, there is something I think you should know:

College Station is the home of Texas A&M who is in the SEC.

The University of Texas is in Austin.
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I'd call myself out on that but it took 10 posts for someone to catch that.
Nice catch.
 
John Greene said:
Back in the distant past (when the BE was originally raided) many posters constantly opined that the BC move to the ACC was a terrible "cultural fit" of a NE school in a southern league. In the absence of any such posts are we to assume that UConn is a good "cultural fit" with a Texas conference or that those posters have finally come to realize that none of that "culture fit" crap matters?
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Being a land grant, flagship school that is willing to spend whatever it takes to excel in academics and athletics means more than any possible regional cultural differences.
 
CL82 said:
Why don't they list our two conference titles? They do for Cinci and memphis. Why is distance a downside for us but not for BYU? Why don't they talk about competition for sports dollar whether if be other college teams or pro teams?

It's maddening.
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That was my opening point. It discredits the author. That and Memphis ahead of uconn after claiming his credentials are solid.
 
Let's look at the top four candidates and their primary weakness:

1) BYU ... They don't play well with others.
2) Cincinnati ... They can't even claim their own TV market.
3) UConn ... Distance.
4) Houston ... They can't even claim their own TV market.

The Big 12 has about five primary criteria they are using. They've said distance is not one of them.
 
Redding Husky said:
Let's look at the top four candidates and their primary weakness:

1) BYU ... They don't play well with others.
2) Cincinnati ... They can't even claim their own TV market.
3) UConn ... Distance.
4) Houston ... They can't even claim their own TV market.

The Big 12 has about five primary criteria they are using. They've said distance is not one of them.
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Distance as a factor in CR seems to have been thrown out the window by all the conferences, even the lesser ones that must struggle much more to pay for the travel.
 
It is all about football but over the years we have a history with the Big 12 and had home and home men's hoops with TX, KS, and OK. H@H football with Baylor and Iowa St. . Women's hoops with Baylor, TX, OK, K State. NCAA hoops match ups with TX, Kansas, and Iowa ST on the men's side and OK, Baylor on the women's side. I am sure I missed a few. It is not a huge drawback time wise to get to the Rent or Campus from Bradley. The chance to have fans combine away games against UCONN with trips throughout New England or New York is a positive. Lastly we have Coach Diaco and we are on the rise in football. The timing and geography is a strength really but I am just a Husky fan.
 
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Hopefully Iowa State doesn't hold a grudge because their mascot broke his leg in their only trip to the Rent. The full story never came out ...
 
Travel will be more of and issue for us than them
Football the most they ever come is every other year
Basketball the most once a year
It's us traveling great distances that are put out
If we don't care why should they?
 
jdb50 said:
It is all about football but over the years we have a history with the Big 12 and had home and home men's hoops with TX, KS, and OK. H@H football with Baylor and Iowa St. . Women's hoops with Baylor, TX, OK, K State. NCAA hoops match ups with TX, Kansas, and Iowa ST on the men's side and OK, Baylor on the women's side. I am sure I missed a few. It is not a huge drawback time wise to get to the Rent or Campus from Bradley. The chance to have fans combine away games against UCONN with trips throughout New England or New York is a positive. Lastly we have Coach Diaco and we are on the rise in football. The timing and geography is a strength really but I am just a Husky fan.
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I made this post many times and it's actually something I never considered until I moved to AZ . Only an expatriate could have this insight .
To any B12 lurkers
The whole state of Ct is small ,it's very wooded when you get away from the coast
The Golden Oaks and The brilliant Reds of the Maples makes Ct in the fall one of the most beautiful places in the US
The rivers are picturesque and It has 120 miles if coast line
Its smack between two of Americas favorite City destinations NYC ,and Boston
A visitor can stay in Ct and easily spend a day in either city or stay in either city
and make the game. Good restaurants abound
Little Italy in New Haven is home to Pepes s pizza
The ocean usually moderates the weather and snow or extremely cold weather is rare before Christmas.
You actually can fly into many airports to get to a game
although Storrs is tucked away in a rural corner of the state ,as it started life as an Aggie school ,football is played right in the center
Depending on how you plan your trip you can fly into
The Three major NY airports , Hartford ,Boston , Providence ,
Westchester ,and Newburgh all can get you close enough to the game.
If it's a late Nov. Game ,the ski resorts might be making snow or its a short drive to Vermont
If you fly to Providence you can explore the coast , or visit the Newport RI mansions, even visit the USS Massachusetts a WWII battledhip
Or stay at either if two great Connecticut Casinos ,which are also near Mystic Aquarium,and Seaport
My wife always makes a pilgrimage to the Clinton Crossings Outlets and the Dooney and Burk store
There are some great Ct river towns like, Essex , there is also a submarine base in Groton
You Texas guys can visit the ancestral home of the Austin family ( only a Ct Yankee could have pulled off that scam) in Ct your not a Yankee unless your family has been here for 400 years. My wife's a Yankee difficult people to deal with.
You folks from Iowa or Kansas might trace your ancestors back to Ct
Living in Aruzona where an old house was built in 1990's I love the old houses
There are so many quant little New England towns with houses dated as far back as the 17th century
One of my favorite towns is Concord Mass, home if Walden pond, and a bunch of writers and absolutely post card New England
But if you want a real thrill stand in Concord Bridge and imagine the guts of those hick Yankee farmers as they faced off against one of the best armies in the world .fought them to a draw and harassed them all the way back to Boston

If you like to travel with your team there is no better destination.
 
I remember that pep talk when the ACC added Boston....

Boston and surrounding Massachusetts in the fall is lovely, and enticingly historic....

A really nice destination....but their sports ain't much to talk about.


I really think it will come down to brand, program fan support, market considerations, sports prowess...
 
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3d2bcards said:
Louisville is happy where they are.
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... a dorm brothel, restaurant table, or crashed motorcycle this time? Who crashes and burns furst, Pitino or Petrino? My Louisville neighbor put his chips on Petrino, but removed and hasn't flown his Loiusville flag since the unveiling of Petino's hooker-inspired recruiting. No ill intent, he's actually a good guy. ;)
 
This conference represents a very conservative area of the country. At the end of the day it will remain as parochial as possible. (for the lack of a better term) but I hope I'm wrong.
 
Trevor Matich on ESPN this morning says the Big12 should go big or not at all! If they don't go to 14 now they will be scrambling when the other conferences expand. This could be good for us on several fronts. However, he says Houston is a MUST add for the B12! The reason is bcuz the SEC will snatch them up so they can seal the deal in south Texas along with Texas A&M. This allows the SEC to establish themselves firmly in Texas. Maybe this is why the Texas politicians have been more vocal lately??Who knew Houston was the school in the best position in this whole mess!???? If the B12 stays at 12 were in BIG trouble but could be in good shape if they go to 14. This could get interesting quick!
 
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Duncan Idaho said:
This conference represents a very conservative area of the country. At the end of the day it will remain as parochial as possible. (for the lack of a better term) but I hope I'm wrong.
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Parochialism is why such a great football and multi-sports conference is tethering on the brink of being nothing more than an historic footnote.
Remember the motto of the state of Ct
"Qui Transtulit Sustinet"
Translation:He Who Transplanted Still Sustains
Pretty much the pioneer motto of the US and Something thst should be the driving force in B12 expansion
 
You have to watch for those sneaky SOB's who don't make much noise but jump out at ya...like UConn...I feel good about the Big 12...let them talk up others...but watch out for the quiet one.

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AZHuskiePop said:
I made this post many times and it's actually something I never considered until I moved to AZ . Only an expatriate could have this insight .
To any B12 lurkers
The whole state of Ct is small ,it's very wooded when you get away from the coast
The Golden Oaks and The brilliant Reds of the Maples makes Ct in the fall one of the most beautiful places in the US
The rivers are picturesque and It has 120 miles if coast line
Its smack between two of Americas favorite City destinations NYC ,and Boston
A visitor can stay in Ct and easily spend a day in either city or stay in either city
and make the game. Good restaurants abound
Little Italy in New Haven is home to Pepes s pizza
The ocean usually moderates the weather and snow or extremely cold weather is rare before Christmas.
You actually can fly into many airports to get to a game
although Storrs is tucked away in a rural corner of the state ,as it started life as an Aggie school ,football is played right in the center
Depending on how you plan your trip you can fly into
The Three major NY airports , Hartford ,Boston , Providence ,
Westchester ,and Newburgh all can get you close enough to the game.
If it's a late Nov. Game ,the ski resorts might be making snow or its a short drive to Vermont
If you fly to Providence you can explore the coast , or visit the Newport RI mansions, even visit the USS Massachusetts a WWII battledhip
Or stay at either if two great Connecticut Casinos ,which are also near Mystic Aquarium,and Seaport
My wife always makes a pilgrimage to the Clinton Crossings Outlets and the Dooney and Burk store
There are some great Ct river towns like, Essex , there is also a submarine base in Groton
You Texas guys can visit the ancestral home of the Austin family ( only a Ct Yankee could have pulled off that scam) in Ct your not a Yankee unless your family has been here for 400 years. My wife's a Yankee difficult people to deal with.
You folks from Iowa or Kansas might trace your ancestors back to Ct
Living in Aruzona where an old house was built in 1990's I love the old houses
There are so many quant little New England towns with houses dated as far back as the 17th century
One of my favorite towns is Concord Mass, home if Walden pond, and a bunch of writers and absolutely post card New England
But if you want a real thrill stand in Concord Bridge and imagine the guts of those hick Yankee farmers as they faced off against one of the best armies in the world .fought them to a draw and harassed them all the way back to Boston

If you like to travel with your team there is no better destination.
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Very well said. People think coming to CT in the fall is a bad thing? Don't tell the thousands of tourists who do it each year. Average high in Nov is 50 and 40 in Dec. The chilliest game last year was ECU the day before Halloween and temps stayed in the upper-mid 40s. There's been snow on the field during a game maybe what 3 times? I will say the Memphis and Rutgers games to close out 2013 were miserable as was SMU in 2014.
 
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billybud said:
I remember that pep talk when the ACC added Boston....

Boston and surrounding Massachusetts in the fall is lovely, and enticingly historic....

A really nice destination....but their sports ain't much to talk about.


I really think it will come down to brand, program fan support, market considerations, sports prowess...
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Your dumb conference picked a school no one cares about
 
AZHuskiePop said:
BC is a small Jesuit private in the Bible belt . Heck they don't even speak English in Boston
Connecticut, is a State Flag ship like ,UT,OU,UK, or large
Publics like TT,IS,KS',OSU
Baylor and TCU are the exception
UConn also so has a past deeply rooted as an Aggie School like much of the B12
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From your reply I would guess you have not spent a lot of time in Charlottesville, Chapel Hill, Durham, Atlanta, Miami, Louisville, never mind Syracuse & Pittsburgh. I'll give you Winston-Salem, Clemson and maybe Tallahassee (off the FSU campus) as BB, the others not so much. Also I'm not sure what the extensive row crop farming research at KU and KSU have in common with a dairy barn in Storrs.

My point is that none of that really matters and never did.
 
3d2bcards said:
Louisville is happy where they are.
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As they should be. Hey who'd you guys get to replace Pitino. It will good for you to be able to that embarrassing scandal machine behind you.
 
CL82 said:
As they should be. Hey who'd you guys get to replace Pitino. It will good for you to be able to that embarrassing scandal machine behind you.
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Yes, at least they find themselves amongst their own kind, although they've taken cheating to the next level, with hookers and blow for the BB recruits. Their ACC compatriots are proud of the effort and innovation shown by Jurich and Tricky Ricky.
 
Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
... a dorm brothel, restaurant table, or crashed motorcycle this time? Who crashes and burns furst, Pitino or Petrino? My Louisville neighbor put his chips on Petrino, but removed and hasn't flown his Loiusville flag since the unveiling of Petino's hooker-inspired recruiting. No ill intent, he's actually a good guy. ;)
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Is your neighbor ok with the coke?
 
BoatShow said:
Very well said. People think coming to CT in the fall is a bad thing? Don't tell the thousands of tourists who do it each year. Average high in Nov is 50 and 40 in Dec. The chilliest game last year was ECU the day before Halloween and temps stayed in the upper-mid 40s. There's been snow on the field during a game maybe what 3 times? I will say the Memphis and Rutgers games to close out 2013 were miserable as was SMU in 2014.
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the coldest game was Houston. I was freezing my ass off until i stormed the field
 
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