Big 12 and ACC are fumbling with their expansion apprehensiveness? They will become 2nd class BBall citizens as well if they continue.

[uchusky32]

I’m less concerned about the ACC actually because they are going through a “generational” head coaching chande in basketball. In the last 5 years their lead programs have lost coaches who have won 10 national championships, and are in the hall of fame. As UConn knows, replacing a hall of fame coach is tricky and difficult to evaluate until he’s been around a few years to do the job on his own. It is a bad time to lose coaches but it is what it is

Unlike UConn we won one while going through transition.

 

[Kolumbo]

The Big XIIs or The Big XXIV or The Big XXXII

Looking back at the original post of 24 programs. The Big XII expands to ultimately have 2 distinct divisions and killing off the ACC. Start by taking UConn and perhaps USF grabbing the northeast and having 2 programs in Florida to bring total to 18. Those 2 programs have Power budgets and are available. Short term the Big XII will still be behind the ACC in payouts but the long game puts 2 more nails in the ACC coffin. When the ACC football powers finally leave, the rest of the ACC are tripping over themselves scrambling for a Big XII invite. Big XII invites 6 to get to 24 or 14 (not everyone from the ACC survives) to get to 32. That leaves the Big Ten, SEC, and Big XII East & West. Big XII would rep probably 40% of the power conference programs.

 

[CL82]

The Big XIIs or The Big XXIV or The Big XXXII

Looking back at the original post of 24 programs. The Big XII expands to ultimately have 2 distinct divisions and killing off the ACC. Start by taking UConn and perhaps USF grabbing the northeast and having 2 programs in Florida to bring total to 18. Those 2 programs have Power budgets and are available. Short term the Big XII will still be behind the ACC in payouts but the long game puts 2 more nails in the ACC coffin. When the ACC football powers finally leave, the rest of the ACC are tripping over themselves scrambling for a Big XII invite. Big XII invites 6 to get to 24 or 14 (not everyone from the ACC survives) to get to 32. That leaves the Big Ten, SEC, and Big XII East & West. Big XII would rep probably 40% of the power conference programs.

I like it. Of course I'd like it even more if you got someone who was willing to pay for it.

 

[baggerbob]

I like it. Of course I'd like it even more if you got someone who was willing to pay for it.

The biggest problem the Big 12 has is no network, and with cable losing customers, that is a problem. The SEC, BIG 10, ACC networks will become streaming platforms for those conferences .
Eventually the Big 12 schools will either join the ACC or find a home somewhere.

 

[CL82]

The biggest problem the Big 12 has is no network, and with cable losing customers, that is a problem. The SEC, BIG 10, ACC networks will become streaming platforms for those conferences .
Eventually the Big 12 schools will either join the ACC or find a home somewhere.

Somewhat agree. As long as there are providers that need content, eg Fox ESPN TNT etc., there will be a market for Big 12 games. But I do agree that not having the revenue stream from their own network is a net negative for them.

That was the one place that private capital made some sense to me.

 

[Kolumbo]

I like it. Of course I'd like it even more if you got someone who was willing to pay for it.

I think espn might be slightly interested if it lost all of its ACC content. And Fox would surely pick up the additional revenue the ACC schools would bring in. We're not adding a lot of programs, just moving them around, so the total pie is basically the same.

 

[CL82]

I think espn might be slightly interested if it lost all of its ACC content. And Fox would surely pick up the additional revenue the ACC schools would bring in. We're not adding a lot of programs, just moving them around, so the total pie is basically the same.

So help me to understand your point. I was talking about why someone would pay to have Connecticut doing either conference at a dollar amount so that they pay for themselves plus the meaningfully increase the revenue to all the other schools in the conference. Because if no one is willing to do that, then no one will ever invite Connecticut into a P4 conference.

I love the idea. I just don't see the profit motive to anyone other than us.

 

[ZooCougar]

The Big XIIs or The Big XXIV or The Big XXXII

Looking back at the original post of 24 programs. The Big XII expands to ultimately have 2 distinct divisions and killing off the ACC. Start by taking UConn and perhaps USF grabbing the northeast and having 2 programs in Florida to bring total to 18. Those 2 programs have Power budgets and are available. Short term the Big XII will still be behind the ACC in payouts but the long game puts 2 more nails in the ACC coffin. When the ACC football powers finally leave, the rest of the ACC are tripping over themselves scrambling for a Big XII invite. Big XII invites 6 to get to 24 or 14 (not everyone from the ACC survives) to get to 32. That leaves the Big Ten, SEC, and Big XII East & West. Big XII would rep probably 40% of the power conference programs.

Or the ACC just poaches the Big 12 because they still have more money.

 

[CL82]

Or the ACC just poaches the Big 12 because they still have more money.

What schools do you think the ACC would want from the big 12? Kansas, maybe. They've never wanted West Virginia, Cincinnati, or Memphis.

 

[KryHavok]

What schools do you think the ACC would want from the big 12? Kansas, maybe. They've never wanted West Virginia, Cincinnati, or Memphis.

I can see them wanting Arizona or Arizona State...decent schools with strong sports and they can make a sort of western pod along with Calford.

 

[CTBballfan243]

I can see them wanting Arizona or Arizona State...decent schools with strong sports and they can make a sort of western pod along with Calford.

Don’t forget about the athletic juggernaut that is SMU.

 

[Kolumbo]

So help me to understand your point. I was talking about why someone would pay to have Connecticut doing either conference at a dollar amount so that they pay for themselves plus the meaningfully increase the revenue to all the other schools in the conference. Because if no one is willing to do that, then no one will ever invite Connecticut into a P4 conference.

I love the idea. I just don't see the profit motive to anyone other than us.

I suppose you are right. I think we can officially shut the Realignment thread down, at least as far as my interest in college sports is concerned. Let's transfer the whole Windward division off the base. We're surrendering our position in Cuba. Shut her down. Close up the bridge.

 

[CL82]

I suppose you are right. I think we can officially shut the Realignment thread down, at least as far as my interest in college sports is concerned. Let's transfer the whole Windward division off the base. We're surrendering our position in Cuba. Shut her down. Close up the bridge.

If I remember correctly, Colonel Jessup ended up disgraced and in prison.

Hey, I want you to be right, but from where I sit, the math ain't mathIng