Big 12 and ACC are fumbling with their expansion apprehensiveness? They will become 2nd class BBall citizens as well if they continue.

[cellocgg]

They don’t understand that the only difference between us and them is conference revenue because actual, experienced journalists write articles that parrot this exact belief. It’s maddening and it shows their complete incompetence.

Complete braindead reasoning

UConn is the only G5 who gets the institutional support it needs to compete with the P5 in revenue by a large margin. No other G5 is getting $100M+. This point should be a good thing because if the conference money came in and the subsidies stopped, we would still be P5 level in revenue. Other G5s wouldn't be close

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

UConn should get more respect/credit from people because they literally are investing in athletics at a level the P4's aren't. If they weren't sucking at the ESPN teet, they'd be in the exact same boat as us and I doubt many of them (BC, Wake, etc.) would opt in to the extent UConn does.

 

[CL82]

There's this idea I hear online from B12 and ACC fans that UConn's doesn't generate enough revenue and relies too heavily on subsidies...

You try running a P5 AD on G5 money lol. Any other power school in our shoes would do the same thing in the absence of crazy media money. If we did get into the P5 then obviously we wouldn't be getting the same subsidies

I propose to these people then should all power schools be kicked out of their conference? If our admission is frowned upon because of our subsidies and other P5s would do the same thing in our shoes, why should they get to stay? Illogical, circular reasoning from these people

It's funny because if you added a P5 conference distribution to our existing revenue and subtracted out our big east share, we would be comfortably in the upper half of P5 schools and probably in the upper third. I've seen this analysis done from time to time.

 

[Kolumbo]

I don't feel any sense of urgency anymore. When it was the P5 and G5 it was important. Now it's the P2, the pee 2, and the G6. The divides are there and the distributions are very uneven within conferences.

I have a feeling when an offer does come, we will be forced to hold our noses and accept. Maybe it will be the ACC carcass combined with some AAC bbq. Depending on who from the ACC is included, it would still be an offer we need to accept. A worse scenario is we are still left out. The below lineup would be a very good situation but I have a feeling it would be more AAC and less ACC.

UConn
Pitt, SU, BCU, Duke, Ga Tech, NC State, Va Tech, Louisville, Wake, SMU, Berkeley, Stanford . . .
Temple, USF, Memphis, Tulane, ECU . . .

 

[Kolumbo]

Or the ACC could just invite much better basketball brands. smh

ACC eyes shrinking conference schedule in basketball to boost tournament resumes

According to a report by CBS Sports, the ACC is considering reducing its conference schedule from 20 games to 18.

awfulannouncing.com

"According to a report by CBS Sports’ Brandon Marcello, the ACC is considering reducing its conference schedule from 20 games to 18 to schedule more marquee non-conference opponents better. The proposal is expected to be approved when league officials convene in May for the league’s annual meetings."

"ACC men’s basketball has been a shell of its former self in recent years. Last season, for instance, the conference went 2-14 against the SEC during the ACC-SEC Challenge and only earned four bids into the NCAA Tournament. Conference administrators believe that adding more high-profile non-conference games can help teams improve their NET and KenPom ratings, which the selection committee uses to pick teams in March."

 

[HuskyinWRNY]

Or the ACC could just invite much better basketball brands. smh

ACC eyes shrinking conference schedule in basketball to boost tournament resumes

According to a report by CBS Sports, the ACC is considering reducing its conference schedule from 20 games to 18.

awfulannouncing.com

"According to a report by CBS Sports’ Brandon Marcello, the ACC is considering reducing its conference schedule from 20 games to 18 to schedule more marquee non-conference opponents better. The proposal is expected to be approved when league officials convene in May for the league’s annual meetings."

"ACC men’s basketball has been a shell of its former self in recent years. Last season, for instance, the conference went 2-14 against the SEC during the ACC-SEC Challenge and only earned four bids into the NCAA Tournament. Conference administrators believe that adding more high-profile non-conference games can help teams improve their NET and KenPom ratings, which the selection committee uses to pick teams in March."

Bring them on.

 

[RedRabbit84]

Imo, UConn should absolutely positively be in over UCF.

 

[LetsGoUC]

What I find hard to believe is that, every March for the last 30 years, UConn is talked about in the media because of both of our basketball programs. Majority of ACC and Big 12 schools don't even sniff an ounce of our success, nor gets mentioned in media. I mean we literally have owned a month of the year.

I totally understand that basketball doesn't drive realignment and football has hurt us. I get that.

But for the ACC and Big 12 to say we can literally grab a large state school, which come every March, one of there programs will be there in the end celebrating, seems like a total misstep by them.

 

[KryHavok]

What I find hard to believe is that, every March for the last 30 years, UConn is talked about in the media because of both of our basketball programs. Majority of ACC and Big 12 schools don't even sniff an ounce of our success, nor gets mentioned in media. I mean we literally have owned a month of the year.

I totally understand that basketball doesn't drive realignment and football has hurt us. I get that.

But for the ACC and Big 12 to say we can literally grab a large state school, which come every March, one of there programs will be there in the end celebrating, seems like a total misstep by them.

To understand the idiocy of the Big12 that invites members who openly want to leave and the all cretins crew who thinks West Coast schools belong in an East coast conference, one would have to speak and be fluid in the language of stupid.

 

[freescooter]

I’m less concerned about the ACC actually because they are going through a “generational” head coaching chande in basketball. In the last 5 years their lead programs have lost coaches who have won 10 national championships, and are in the hall of fame. As UConn knows, replacing a hall of fame coach is tricky and difficult to evaluate until he’s been around a few years to do the job on his own. It is a bad time to lose coaches but it is what it is

 

[uchusky32]

I’m less concerned about the ACC actually because they are going through a “generational” head coaching chande in basketball. In the last 5 years their lead programs have lost coaches who have won 10 national championships, and are in the hall of fame. As UConn knows, replacing a hall of fame coach is tricky and difficult to evaluate until he’s been around a few years to do the job on his own. It is a bad time to lose coaches but it is what it is

Unlike UConn we won one while going through transition.

 

[Kolumbo]

The Big XIIs or The Big XXIV or The Big XXXII

Looking back at the original post of 24 programs. The Big XII expands to ultimately have 2 distinct divisions and killing off the ACC. Start by taking UConn and perhaps USF grabbing the northeast and having 2 programs in Florida to bring total to 18. Those 2 programs have Power budgets and are available. Short term the Big XII will still be behind the ACC in payouts but the long game puts 2 more nails in the ACC coffin. When the ACC football powers finally leave, the rest of the ACC are tripping over themselves scrambling for a Big XII invite. Big XII invites 6 to get to 24 or 14 (not everyone from the ACC survives) to get to 32. That leaves the Big Ten, SEC, and Big XII East & West. Big XII would rep probably 40% of the power conference programs.

 

[CL82]

The Big XIIs or The Big XXIV or The Big XXXII

Looking back at the original post of 24 programs. The Big XII expands to ultimately have 2 distinct divisions and killing off the ACC. Start by taking UConn and perhaps USF grabbing the northeast and having 2 programs in Florida to bring total to 18. Those 2 programs have Power budgets and are available. Short term the Big XII will still be behind the ACC in payouts but the long game puts 2 more nails in the ACC coffin. When the ACC football powers finally leave, the rest of the ACC are tripping over themselves scrambling for a Big XII invite. Big XII invites 6 to get to 24 or 14 (not everyone from the ACC survives) to get to 32. That leaves the Big Ten, SEC, and Big XII East & West. Big XII would rep probably 40% of the power conference programs.

I like it. Of course I'd like it even more if you got someone who was willing to pay for it.

 

[baggerbob]

I like it. Of course I'd like it even more if you got someone who was willing to pay for it.

The biggest problem the Big 12 has is no network, and with cable losing customers, that is a problem. The SEC, BIG 10, ACC networks will become streaming platforms for those conferences .
Eventually the Big 12 schools will either join the ACC or find a home somewhere.

 

[CL82]

The biggest problem the Big 12 has is no network, and with cable losing customers, that is a problem. The SEC, BIG 10, ACC networks will become streaming platforms for those conferences .
Eventually the Big 12 schools will either join the ACC or find a home somewhere.

Somewhat agree. As long as there are providers that need content, eg Fox ESPN TNT etc., there will be a market for Big 12 games. But I do agree that not having the revenue stream from their own network is a net negative for them.

That was the one place that private capital made some sense to me.

 

[Kolumbo]

I like it. Of course I'd like it even more if you got someone who was willing to pay for it.

I think espn might be slightly interested if it lost all of its ACC content. And Fox would surely pick up the additional revenue the ACC schools would bring in. We're not adding a lot of programs, just moving them around, so the total pie is basically the same.

 

[CL82]

I think espn might be slightly interested if it lost all of its ACC content. And Fox would surely pick up the additional revenue the ACC schools would bring in. We're not adding a lot of programs, just moving them around, so the total pie is basically the same.

So help me to understand your point. I was talking about why someone would pay to have Connecticut doing either conference at a dollar amount so that they pay for themselves plus the meaningfully increase the revenue to all the other schools in the conference. Because if no one is willing to do that, then no one will ever invite Connecticut into a P4 conference.

I love the idea. I just don't see the profit motive to anyone other than us.

 

[ZooCougar]

The Big XIIs or The Big XXIV or The Big XXXII

Looking back at the original post of 24 programs. The Big XII expands to ultimately have 2 distinct divisions and killing off the ACC. Start by taking UConn and perhaps USF grabbing the northeast and having 2 programs in Florida to bring total to 18. Those 2 programs have Power budgets and are available. Short term the Big XII will still be behind the ACC in payouts but the long game puts 2 more nails in the ACC coffin. When the ACC football powers finally leave, the rest of the ACC are tripping over themselves scrambling for a Big XII invite. Big XII invites 6 to get to 24 or 14 (not everyone from the ACC survives) to get to 32. That leaves the Big Ten, SEC, and Big XII East & West. Big XII would rep probably 40% of the power conference programs.

Or the ACC just poaches the Big 12 because they still have more money.

 

[CL82]

Or the ACC just poaches the Big 12 because they still have more money.

What schools do you think the ACC would want from the big 12? Kansas, maybe. They've never wanted West Virginia, Cincinnati, or Memphis.

 

[KryHavok]

What schools do you think the ACC would want from the big 12? Kansas, maybe. They've never wanted West Virginia, Cincinnati, or Memphis.

I can see them wanting Arizona or Arizona State...decent schools with strong sports and they can make a sort of western pod along with Calford.

 

[CTBballfan243]

I can see them wanting Arizona or Arizona State...decent schools with strong sports and they can make a sort of western pod along with Calford.

Don’t forget about the athletic juggernaut that is SMU.

 

[Kolumbo]

So help me to understand your point. I was talking about why someone would pay to have Connecticut doing either conference at a dollar amount so that they pay for themselves plus the meaningfully increase the revenue to all the other schools in the conference. Because if no one is willing to do that, then no one will ever invite Connecticut into a P4 conference.

I love the idea. I just don't see the profit motive to anyone other than us.

I suppose you are right. I think we can officially shut the Realignment thread down, at least as far as my interest in college sports is concerned. Let's transfer the whole Windward division off the base. We're surrendering our position in Cuba. Shut her down. Close up the bridge.

 

[CL82]

I suppose you are right. I think we can officially shut the Realignment thread down, at least as far as my interest in college sports is concerned. Let's transfer the whole Windward division off the base. We're surrendering our position in Cuba. Shut her down. Close up the bridge.

If I remember correctly, Colonel Jessup ended up disgraced and in prison.

Hey, I want you to be right, but from where I sit, the math ain't mathIng