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mdmiller6 said:
I'm watching the MD/Iowa Big Ten Championship. The announcers were talking about the #1 seeds. They are such UCONN haters it is unreal. They really think we shouldn't be a number 1 seed. They talked about how good Stanford is and the fact that UCONN lost to Arkansas, and Maryland beat Arkansas. So they think we should be a 2 seed. They never mentioned South Carolina, or Texas A&M, losing. The bias is unbelievable. This was too funny!!!
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I was just going to post the same thing. Whoever those announcers are they are real Big 10 homers and seem to know nothing about UCONN. I'm sure they have not seen us play, but at least at this point, they have refrained from crowning Clark as FOY, with Paige as barely in the top 10.
 
bballnut90 said:
Probably 100...they're at 79 with 29 seconds left end of the 3rd. Even if Brenda calls off the dogs, the bench has been tremendous too.
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Neither of these teams play anything remotely resembling effective defense. If Uconn can't beat either by double digits they don't deserve to be national champion. I'm not interested in statistical permutations. On the court is all that counts this year.
 
Iowa all starters are double digit but all the benches only score 6 point in late 4Q.
 
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mdmiller6 said:
I'm watching the MD/Iowa Big Ten Championship. The announcers were talking about the #1 seeds. They are such UCONN haters it is unreal. They really think we shouldn't be a number 1 seed. They talked about how good Stanford is and the fact that UCONN lost to Arkansas, and Maryland beat Arkansas. So they think we should be a 2 seed. They never mentioned South Carolina, or Texas A&M, losing. The bias is unbelievable. This was too funny!!!
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They never said that. They simply pointed out the difference in point differential between Maryland and UConn vs. top-25 teams, which is unfair given the sample sizes and Maryland's two losses. They were making the case for Maryland as a 1-seed, not denigrating UConn.
 
bballnut90 said:
Probably 100...they're at 79 with 29 seconds left end of the 3rd. Even if Brenda calls off the dogs, the bench has been tremendous too.
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Well, MD scored with .7 seconds left. So, Brenda is not the type to "call off the dogs". guess she's not going for the sportsmanship award.
 
sweetspot said:
They never said that. They simply pointed out the difference in point differential between Maryland and UConn vs. top-25 teams, which is unfair given the sample sizes and Maryland's two losses. They were making the case for Maryland as a 1-seed, not denigrating UConn.
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Disagree. In order for Maryland to be a number one seed, they have to replace someone. And they were making the case for UConn to be the #1 to be replaced..
 
Aluminny69 said:
Disagree. In order for Maryland to be a number one seed, they have to replace someone. And they were making the case for UConn to be the #1 to be replaced..
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No they weren’t. But you want to hear what you want to hear.
 
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Tomorrow Stanford will be given the top rated slot for the NCAA based on the rated teams they have played and beaten this year. The postponed Baylor game might be the key to this reasoning....or part of it.
 
We shall soon get an ickling as to which conferences were over rated this season. Conference have been known to make a turnaround, both in getting stronger and weaker. It often takes fans/raters a couple seasons to figure it out if they do not watch a lot of games in multiple conferences. I think this season allows for a lot of justifications for mistakes in that regard due to the lack of interconference games. And even those do not often reflect teams improvements or declines over the season.
 
darkstar1 said:
Way overrated.
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How so?

I don’t think anybody would rank them above #3 Perhaps a significant minority would rank them # 4 behind the Big 12. Perhaps you are one of those, but 3/4 is not “way” overrated.

perhaps you would rate them #5 - behind the ACC. Is that true?
 
sweetspot said:
No they weren’t. But you want to hear what you want to hear.
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Its you that need your hearing checked. THEY definitely were making the case that Maryland should replace UCONN on the one line.
 
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mdmiller6 said:
I'm watching the MD/Iowa Big Ten Championship. The announcers were talking about the #1 seeds. They are such UCONN haters it is unreal. They really think we shouldn't be a number 1 seed. They talked about how good Stanford is and the fact that UCONN lost to Arkansas, and Maryland beat Arkansas. So they think we should be a 2 seed. They never mentioned South Carolina, or Texas A&M, losing. The bias is unbelievable. This was too funny!!!
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Could it also be that they're playing to the audience watching? Every network has some kind of spin on it for the fanbase watching. Hyping a BIG10 school during championship game only makes sense for marketing purposes.
 
visitingcock said:
How so?

I don’t think anybody would rank them above #3 Perhaps a significant minority would rank them # 4 behind the Big 12. Perhaps you are one of those, but 3/4 is not “way” overrated.

perhaps you would rate them #5 - behind the ACC. Is that true?
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I would say Big 12 and B1G the 2 weakest of the Power 5 conferences, based on what I’ve seen. My comment was more a reaction to teams from these conferences being ranked when compared to Non Power 5 teams. Maybe my eyes are off, but other than Md or maybe Indiana I don’t see any of the B1G teams being much more competitive than, say Marquette, or maybe even Seton Hall for that matter, such as to qualify so highly for an NCAA seed. Just my opinion on eye test only.
 
my2cents said:
Its you that need your hearing checked. THEY definitely were making the case that Maryland should replace UCONN on the one line.
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Listen for yourself here (20:45):

The argument begins: "I think Maryland has a great chance to be a number 1 seed." Winter-Scott then COMPARES Maryland to UConn but does not in any way say outright that UConn DOESN'T DESERVE to be a No. 1 seed. Her point was that Maryland has 1-seed credentials under this one narrow criteria.

As other posters here wrote, it's good business for ESPN to promote the Big Ten while it's on the network. But Winter-Scott is smart enough to know that UConn is a 1 seed. Hopefully you're not so insecure that you can't see that.
 
sweetspot said:
Listen for yourself here (20:45):

The argument begins: "I think Maryland has a great chance to be a number 1 seed." Winter-Scott then COMPARES Maryland to UConn but does not in any way say outright that UConn DOESN'T DESERVE to be a No. 1 seed. Her point was that Maryland has 1-seed credentials under this one narrow criteria.

As other posters here wrote, it's good business for ESPN to promote the Big Ten while it's on the network. But Winter-Scott is smart enough to know that UConn is a 1 seed. Hopefully you're not so insecure that you can't see that.
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Your reasoning is called. "Begging the question."
There can't be 5 number one seeds, so I by saying Maryland deserves a number one seed, logically implies one of the other 4 DOESN"T deserve it. In the same breadth, they compare Maryland and Uconn ( Not a big mental leap here) implies that Uconn is the team Maryland would replace.
 
As Uconn has proved time and again, the 'strength' of a conference is not very important in the overall picture of WCBB.

What is important in my evaluation is the strength of the top of a league, whether that be 1 team, 2 teams, or more. The ACC with the addition of ND and Louisville has been a 'very strong' conference because it had two top 10 teams and a few more top 25 teams, and now NCSt has replaced a down ND. The Big10 and Big12 have generally been weak conferences with a single dominant team - not yet sold on IU or WV and OSU and TX aren't cutting it. SEC has rotated a couple of teams but with SC and MSSt/TA&M have had that multiple top 10 and a few top 25 team strength. The Pac12 has had a resurgence - the question in my mind is have the teams other than Stanford faded, or is this year just a downward blip in their upward trajectory? The next few years will tell. The Old BE with Uconn and ND/Louisville/Rutgers/WV etc. had that 2+ top 10/a few other top25 format - the AAC and new BE do not.

The reality is that most of the time (9 out 10 say) top 5 teams should beat all ranked teams outside the top 10, and should never lose to an unranked team, and if they don't play any teams in the top 10 their records are completely suspect. I would probably extend that to top 8 teams most years - this year being a little weird. This idea that playing 15 teams in the 'top 50' makes a great resume is hog wash if they haven't won games against top 10 teams. The women's game does not have an homogeneous top 50, they don't have an homogeneous top 25, they often don't have an homogeneous top 8. SOS becomes a blunt implement in such a stratified universe - it isn't great in men's sports, it is almost meaningless in women's. When looking at top ten teams in WCBB the teams should be evaluated based on huge blocks of teams - top 10, next 15, next 50, next 270 for top 25 teams, for lower ranked teams shift the blocks downward.
 
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