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Best UConn Center of All Time?

Who’s the GOAT UConn Center?

  • Okafor

  • Clingan

  • Thabeet

  • Sanogo

  • Other (Post Below)


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Yeah isolating Clingan against Illinois in the Elite 8 you choose him; Tarris vs Providence you choose him.

But it's the body of work, not specifically a game, or games, but we have to remember seeing Okafor play live and on TV for multiple seasons was amazing - Clingan was special mainly for a handful of games and Thabeet had his. Cliffy IMHM played more power forward than C.

Yeah, Cliff was just a ball player. He actually could have played point if he had to. He was incredibly talented. One of my favorite memories was watching Tate and Cliff warm up by playing a little one on one. The ballhandling display Cliff was putting on was absolutely shocking. Tate was laughing and calling him a freak.
 
Not knocking anyone who played before the Big East era, but whatever they accomplished was against regional opponents from New England. Not a national schedule.
You do understand that the New England, metropolitan NY-Philly, WAS college basketball then. The south was Kentucky, UNC, Midwest was Cincinnati, Ohio State, Kansas, Indiana. There were no real powers in southwest in 60's, and even 70's. The big deal far west was UCLA, and that was it. The 2 big basketball tournaments, that showcased schools were the Holiday Festival, and NIT. Both held in the Mecca of college basketball, Madison Square Garden. So in essence your rationale about opponents from northeast and New England fails to take into account how good eastern basketball was in the 50's into the 70's.
 
You do understand that the New England, metropolitan NY-Philly, WAS college basketball then. The south was Kentucky, UNC, Midwest was Cincinnati, Ohio State, Kansas, Indiana. There were no real powers in southwest in 60's, and even 70's. The big deal far west was UCLA, and that was it. The 2 big basketball tournaments, that showcased schools were the Holiday Festival, and NIT. Both held in the Mecca of college basketball, Madison Square Garden. So in essence your rationale about opponents from northeast and New England fails to take into account how good eastern basketball was in the 50's into the 70's.
Gee, thanks. I was a regular at both the Holiday Festival and NIT growing up in the 60s and early 70s. Heck, I would be in MSG for the start of the 5th place consolation games where there wouldn’t be 100 people in the Garden. Yes, college basketball was different, but UConn wasn’t playing the Syracuses and St Johns and ‘Novas all thle time during that period. Yes, they played Providence regularly. And the record of eastern independents getting out of the Eastern regional and getting to the Final Four wasn’t great. Yes, occasionally someone would break through, but it was occasionally.

I’m not even sure why I responded to this. If anyone thinks our schedule was equivalent to what those in major conferences were playing before the start of the Big East ….
 
Lack of love for Thabeet is crazy. He was dominant as long as he wasn’t playing against Dejuan Blair. Easily the #2 center behind Okafor. Don’t let his NBA career dictate your opinion of him as a Husky
Just stop. Clingan is light years better than Thabeet ever was. There's a reason Thabeet absolutely sucked in the NBA, he just wasn't that good. Clingan is a better player in so many ways. Even bringing up Thabeet alongside Okafor and Clingan is laughable. Clingan has National Championships and NBA accomplishments...Thabeet has neither.
 
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Just stop. Clingan is light years better than Thabeet ever was. There's a reason Thabeet absolutely sucked in the NBA, he just wasn't that good. Clingan is a better player in so many ways. Even bringing up Thabeet alongside Okafor and Clingan is laughable. Clingan has National Championships and NBA accomplishments...Thabeet has neither.

Thabeet won (in a WAY better league) DPOY in the Big East TWICE. He also won the NATIONAL DPOY TWICE. Objectively, Clingan didn’t come close to his accomplishments.

Do I think Clingan is the better player? Yeah probably. But Thabeet’s season was far better than Clingan’s, so your level of incredulity is not warranted. He deserves to be in the conversation every bit as much as Clingan.
 
Thabeet won (in a WAY better league) DPOY in the Big East TWICE. He also won the NATIONAL DPOY TWICE. Objectively, Clingan didn’t come close to his accomplishments.

Do I think Clingan is the better player? Yeah probably. But Thabeet’s season was far better than Clingan’s, so your level of incredulity is not warranted. He deserves to be in the conversation every bit as much as Clingan.
But the Go-Go's chant for Thabeet (We got Thabeet, we got Thabeet..... WE GOT THABEET!) was truly memorable... much better than any Clingan or even Okafor chants. Gotta count for somethin.

Besides saying Clingan is light years better than Thabeet, even 2 light years is 1.176e+13 which is absurd. Clingan was better but not Cooper Flagg compared to a 3rd grader better.
 
Just stop. Clingan is light years better than Thabeet ever was. There's a reason Thabeet absolutely sucked in the NBA, he just wasn't that good. Clingan is a better player in so many ways. Even bringing up Thabeet alongside Okafor and Clingan is laughable. Clingan has National Championships and NBA accomplishments...Thabeet has neither.

PS Clingan has no NBA accomplishments yet. And in a better draft Thabeet went 2, Clingan went 7?
 
Thabeet won (in a WAY better league) DPOY in the Big East TWICE. He also won the NATIONAL DPOY TWICE. Objectively, Clingan didn’t come close to his accomplishments.

Do I think Clingan is the better player? Yeah probably. But Thabeet’s season was far better than Clingan’s, so your level of incredulity is not warranted. He deserves to be in the conversation every bit as much as Clingan.
He was 7'3" and therefore blocked a lot of shots. There's a reason he never averaged more than 3 points and 3 rebounds in the NBA, he just wasn't very skilled. In fact, he was one of the worst uses of a draft pick ever. Outside of Len Bias, who never played an NBA game, Thabeet produced the least in the NBA of any TOP 3 draft pick EVER.
 
He was 7'3" and therefore blocked a lot of shots. There's a reason he never averaged more than 3 points and 3 rebounds in the NBA, he just wasn't very skilled. In fact, he was one of the worst uses of a draft pick ever. Outside of Len Bias, who never played an NBA game, Thabeet produced the least in the NBA of any TOP 3 draft pick EVER.

None of this matters. And Donovan Clingan is also 7’3 hahahaha what are you talking about?

I’m curious if you realize UConn is a college team?
 
PS Clingan has no NBA accomplishments yet. And in a better draft Thabeet went 2, Clingan went 7?

Clingan was All Rookie second team. What did Thabeet ever accomplish in the NBA? Absolutely nothing. If he was as good as you think he was, he wouldn't have had the NBA career he did.
 
Thabeet won (in a WAY better league) DPOY in the Big East TWICE. He also won the NATIONAL DPOY TWICE. Objectively, Clingan didn’t come close to his accomplishments.

Do I think Clingan is the better player? Yeah probably. But Thabeet’s season was far better than Clingan’s, so your level of incredulity is not warranted. He deserves to be in the conversation every bit as much as Clingan.
You keep bringing up Big East DPOY's. Boone and Armstrong also won Big East DPOY. Who cares? Clingan was way better defensively than all of them.

By the end of his sophomore year everyone in the country knew Clingan was the best defensive player in the country and it wasn't close. Hell, he was the best defensive player in the country his freshman year too but his minutes were limited because he had to share the position with the best offensive big in the country.

In no way was Thabeet better than Clingan. Clingan's per 40 stats as a freshman and sophomore blow away Thabeet's as a freshman, sophomore, junior. Clingan was sharing the position with the best offensive center in the country and a pogo stick change of pace guy. Thabeet was sharing the position with Mandeldove and then a sophomore Okwandu.
 
You keep bringing up Big East DPOY's. Boone and Armstrong also won Big East DPOY. Who cares? Clingan was way better defensively than all of them.

By the end of his sophomore year everyone in the country knew Clingan was the best defensive player in the country and it wasn't close. Hell, he was the best defensive player in the country his freshman year too but his minutes were limited because he had to share the position with the best offensive big in the country.

In no way was Thabeet better than Clingan. Clingan's per 40 stats as a freshman and sophomore blow away Thabeet's as a freshman, sophomore, junior. Clingan was sharing the position with the best offensive center in the country and a pogo stick change of pace guy. Thabeet was sharing the position with Mandeldove and then a sophomore Okwandu.

Ok.
 
You keep bringing up Big East DPOY's. Boone and Armstrong also won Big East DPOY. Who cares? Clingan was way better defensively than all of them.

By the end of his sophomore year everyone in the country knew Clingan was the best defensive player in the country and it wasn't close. Hell, he was the best defensive player in the country his freshman year too but his minutes were limited because he had to share the position with the best offensive big in the country.

In no way was Thabeet better than Clingan. Clingan's per 40 stats as a freshman and sophomore blow away Thabeet's as a freshman, sophomore, junior. Clingan was sharing the position with the best offensive center in the country and a pogo stick change of pace guy. Thabeet was sharing the position with Mandeldove and then a sophomore Okwandu.
Again, the Per-40 for Clingan is a pretty significant cop out. I think the Freshman yr Per-40 is simply irrelevant, and he played 10 less minutes as a Soph than Thabeet did as a Junior while struggling with conditioning as we saw.

Not saying Thabeet or DC is better (I think Clingan was more impactful but Thabeet’s Junior season, individually, was better) but the Per-40 thing is flawed here.
 
Again, the Per-40 for Clingan is a pretty significant cop out. I think the Freshman yr Per-40 is simply irrelevant, and he played 10 less minutes as a Soph than Thabeet did as a Junior while struggling with conditioning as we saw.

Not saying Thabeet or DC is better (I think Clingan was more impactful but Thabeet’s Junior season, individually, was better) but the Per-40 thing is flawed here.
How is it not relevant that Clingan was more impactful on the court than Thabeet was in his minutes and Clingan shared the center position with the best offensive big in the country and another good center for his two seasons while Thabeet shared it with a couple of nobodies?
 
How is it not relevant that Clingan was more impactful on the court than Thabeet was in his minutes and Clingan shared the center position with the best offensive big in the country and another good center for his two seasons while Thabeet shared it with a couple of nobodies?
Because the gap in minutes per game is so significant, and the stat doesn’t account for inevitable fatigue, which is incredibly relevant especially with guys that are 7’2 plus, lol.
 
Because the gap in minutes per game is so significant, and the stat doesn’t account for inevitable fatigue, which is incredibly relevant especially with guys that are 7’2 plus, lol.
So you're penalizing Clingan because he shared the position with Sanogo and Samson.

Clingan had much better stats in the minutes he played, he was 2 for 2 in championships, Thabeet was 0 for 3. What are we doing here?
 
1. What happens after they leave college is so irrelevant to the question at hand it amazes me folks still bring it up.

2. Thabeet as a junior could hit foul line extended jumpers. DC as a soph wasn't even allowed to take them. And, someone can prove me wrong, but I think by the time he was a junior Thabeet was a better foul shooter as well.

I stick with what I said earlier -- if you take just the last year at UConn of each of Sanogo, Thabeet and DC, you could make an argument for any of them being "best." But was DC "light years" better his last year than Thabeet was? Absolutely not. That's just not a reasonable argument.
 
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1. What happens after they leave college is so irrelevant to the question at hand it amazes me folks still bring it up.

2. Thabeet as a junior could hit foul line extended jumpers. DC as a soph wasn't even allowed to take them. And, someone can prove me wrong, but I think by the time he was a junior Thabeet was a better foul shooter as well.

I stick with what I said earlier -- if you take just the last year at UConn of each of Sanogo, Thabeet and DC, you could make an argument for any of them being "best." But was DC "light years" better his last year than Thabeet was? Absolutely not. That's just not reasonable argument.
Clingan was a significantly more effective scorer as a sophomore than the foul line extended jump shooting Thabeet was as a junior, lolz.
 
1. What happens after they leave college is so irrelevant to the question at hand it amazes me folks still bring it up.

2. Thabeet as a junior could hit foul line extended jumpers. DC as a soph wasn't even allowed to take them. And, someone can prove me wrong, but I think by the time he was a junior Thabeet was a better foul shooter as well.

I stick with what I said earlier -- if you take just the last year at UConn of each of Sanogo, Thabeet and DC, you could make an argument for any of them being "best." But was DC "light years" better his last year than Thabeet was? Absolutely not. That's just not reasonable argument.

Good post. However, the more I think about it, the answer to this question is Sanogo. He was a machine, completely reliable, could score at will, make the three and hit free throws under pressure. He was the man among these 3. We may have loved the other two and they brought a lot to the table, but Sanogo was our "Mailman", he always delivered. Given that he won a title and played the majority of minutes at Center, I think he's the guy in this debate.
 
* My fandom is the (1999-Today) Championship Era *

1.) Emeka - The best total package. Awesome low post scorer and a beast on the offensive glass, combined that with top tier defense.

2.) Clingan - The best defender I’ve ever seen. I see a lot of him vs Thabeet discussion in this thread, to me Clingan was the equivalent of an elite corner who doesn’t pick off many passes, as by sophomore year he was rarely tested (Illinois showed why). Offensively he was an ELITE rim runner and his rolls to the basket lead to buckets and even more open looks by collapsing defenses.

3.) Adama Sanogo - Recency bias, maybe? But IMO Adama is the second best offensive big of the modern era (behind Okafor). Leading scorer and rebounded for a title team. Averaged 19.6 & 9.8 in the tournament and was named MOP.

Misc Thoughts - Winning a ring matters a lot to me, so the 2009 team failing keeps Hasheem out of any top conversation, when there are guys with comparable stats who won it all.
 
Good post. However, the more I think about it, the answer to this question is Sanogo. He was a machine, completely reliable, could score at will, make the three and hit free throws under pressure. He was the man among these 3. We may have loved the other two and they brought a lot to the table, but Sanogo was our "Mailman", he always delivered. Given that he won a title and played the majority of minutes at Center, I think he's the guy in this debate.
Sanogo was just an automatic 18 & 8. His power/ finesse down low was something of a bygone era
 
Clingan was a significantly more effective scorer as a sophomore than the foul line extended jump shooting Thabeet was as a junior, lolz.
So what would you like us to judge DC on other than how good he was while at UConn?
 
So you're penalizing Clingan because he shared the position with Sanogo and Samson.

Clingan had much better stats in the minutes he played, he was 2 for 2 in championships, Thabeet was 0 for 3. What are we doing here?
Well in the minutes he played, he has worst stats. Per-40 isn’t your statistics. I’m not penalizing, you’re just putting a whole lot of weight into a stat that assumes a lot of things. Also, Championships are a team accomplishment.

BE POTY, 2x BE DPOY, Consensus All-American. Those are individual accomplishments. If DC played/needed to play 28-32 mins his Soph year, he would certainly have some awards. He didn’t need to/probably also couldn’t, so no point of dishing out the “if’s”.
 
1. What happens after they leave college is so irrelevant to the question at hand it amazes me folks still bring it up.

2. Thabeet as a junior could hit foul line extended jumpers. DC as a soph wasn't even allowed to take them. And, someone can prove me wrong, but I think by the time he was a junior Thabeet was a better foul shooter as well.

I stick with what I said earlier -- if you take just the last year at UConn of each of Sanogo, Thabeet and DC, you could make an argument for any of them being "best." But was DC "light years" better his last year than Thabeet was? Absolutely not. That's just not reasonable argument.


Accomplishments and accolades matter, not just “everyone knew” Clingan was the best player on earth even though he wasn’t considered for any POYs.

So what would you like us to judge DC on other than how good he was while at UConn?

Just toilet seat’s personal opinion.
 

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