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Best collegiate players whose pro careers didn't pan out

There is a laundry list of players who were Elite college players but their pro career did not measure up. Just off the top of my head, I have:

Alana Beard/Duke
Shameka Christon/Arkansas
Tan White-Mississippi State
Monique Curry/Duke
Sophia Young/Baylor
Lindsey Harding/Duke
Alison Bales/Duke
Ashley/Courtney Paris/Oklahoma
Beard had a 15-year career in the W. That in and of itself is pretty remarkable. She also like Nikki Powell won a championship and was DPOY twice-consecutively- and nine times was on the first or second all defensive team.

So perhaps not a super superstar but a tremendous defensive player and let's face it what percentage of players in the W last 15 years?
 
Let's just be really real. Just about everyone from Stanford but Nneka. (and I very much hope, and expect, Brink to be another exception.)
A lot of Stanford players had nice careers but never panned out to the level of success they had in college or were able to sustain careers at a high level. Chiney/Wiggins both were great as rookies but never improved much beyond that.

Pohlen had one brilliant collegiate season and carved out a couple of good years but wasn’t expected to do much.

Pederson had the tools to be a much better player than she evolved into. Good inside out skills, mobility and range at 6-4. She seemed to peak as a sophomore or junior.

Powell was a stud in college and had a decent pro career but wasn’t the all around star most thought she’d become.
 
There is a laundry list of players who were Elite college players but their pro career did not measure up. Just off the top of my head, I have:

Edna Campbell/Texas
Stephanie White/Purdue
Sonja Henning/Stanford
Ruth Riley/ND
Jenny Mowe/Oregon
Stacey Dales/Oklahoma
Alana Beard/Duke
Shameka Christon/Arkansas
Tan White-Mississippi State
Monique Curry/Duke
Sophia Young/Baylor
Lindsey Harding/Duke
Alison Bales/Duke
Ashley/Courtney Paris/Oklahoma

Young had a great pro career. Harding, Christon, Beard, Riley, and Curry also had strong careers that spanned over a decade and they had some great seasons.

Agree on Bales, she was a beast collegiately. White I think could’ve had a better career if she wasn’t in the 1999 class where everyone was overshadowed by the ABL additions.
 
I hate to post this, but Morgan Tuck was a great college player who had a tough go in the W. A lot of that was her knees, I'm sure.

Also, Megan Walker was a high draft pick who never blossomed. Maybe she will yet make it.
Connecticut Sun drafting Tuck and Banham at #3/#4 has to be 2 of the worst picks in hindsight considering the next 5 picks were Powers (consistent double figure scorer), Jonquel Jones (2021 MVP), Kahleah Copper (2021 Finals MVP and All Star), Courtney Williams (All Star) and Tiffany Mitchell (consistent for 10ppg).

Ironically they made a couple of finals runs built around Jonquel Jones and Williams despite not drafting them. They got Williams for virtually nothing the next year but traded Chelsea Gray away to get Jones. Banham has been able to stick as a role player and Tuck lasted a couple of years as a role player before ultimately retiring after 5 years.
 
KML didn't have the size, or guickness to excell in the WNBA. She was a shooter, and not much else, so she reached her potential.
Playing in UCONN’s system hid a lot of her short comings, but she never got into better shape to improve at the next level. She was always a strong passer too, but it is hard to be a successful shooting specialist without being quick.
 
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Young had a great pro career. Harding, Christon, Beard, Riley, and Curry also had strong careers that spanned over a decade and they had some great seasons.

Agree on Bales, she was a beast collegiately. White I think could’ve had a better career if she wasn’t in the 1999 class where everyone was overshadowed by the ABL additions.
Agree that a lot of the players you listed had very nice pro careers. Given how competitive the league is, anyone who is able to stay in the league for around a decade has had a very nice career, imo.

But I especially need to single out Beard. She is potentially the greatest perimeter defender EVER in the league (not counting Catchings as solely perimeter). A two time DPOY (which amazingly happened in the last 3 years of her career). She was named to an all defensive team NINE times. Sure she didn't score as much in the later years of her career, but she was still playing at an incredibly high level for more than a decade in the league.

Meanwhile, Ruth Riley was the 2003 WNBA Finals MVP!
 
Agree that a lot of the players you listed had very nice pro careers. Given how competitive the league is, anyone who is able to stay in the league for around a decade has had a very nice career, imo.

But I especially need to single out Beard. She is potentially the greatest perimeter defender EVER in the league (not counting Catchings as solely perimeter). A two time DPOY (which amazingly happened in the last 3 years of her career). She was named to an all defensive team NINE times. Sure she didn't score as much in the later years of her career, but she was still playing at an incredibly high level for more than a decade in the league.

Meanwhile, Ruth Riley was the 2003 WNBA Finals MVP!
Beard was a great scorer until injuries in 2010/2011. She never was a DT caliber player (which many thought she’d be in the pros) but she had a stellar career. Especially when you compare her to the previous and following #2 picks (Tan White and Chantelle Anderson).

Sophia Young was 4x All WNBA too and helped lead her team to the finals in 2008.
 
Was always disappointed in how it ended for Ann Strother at UConn and in the WNBA.
 
Connecticut Sun drafting Tuck and Banham at #3/#4 has to be 2 of the worst picks in hindsight considering the next 5 picks were Powers (consistent double figure scorer), Jonquel Jones (2021 MVP), Kahleah Copper (2021 Finals MVP and All Star), Courtney Williams (All Star) and Tiffany Mitchell (consistent for 10ppg).

Ironically they made a couple of finals runs built around Jonquel Jones and Williams despite not drafting them. They got Williams for virtually nothing the next year but traded Chelsea Gray away to get Jones. Banham has been able to stick as a role player and Tuck lasted a couple of years as a role player before ultimately retiring after 5 years.

Off the top of my head that was the 3rd dumbest trade in the history of my life.
 
There is a laundry list of players who were Elite college players but their pro career did not measure up. Just off the top of my head, I have:

Edna Campbell/Texas
Stephanie White/Purdue
Sonja Henning/Stanford
Ruth Riley/ND
Jenny Mowe/Oregon
Stacey Dales/Oklahoma
Alana Beard/Duke
Shameka Christon/Arkansas
Tan White-Mississippi State
Monique Curry/Duke
Sophia Young/Baylor
Lindsey Harding/Duke
Alison Bales/Duke
Ashley/Courtney Paris/Oklahoma

As others have noted, Beard was a 2x DPOY who gave even the great Maya Moore trouble. She was a key player on the L.A. championship team. I think she missed 2+ seasons with injuries, but she was quite good.
 
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There is a laundry list of players who were Elite college players but their pro career did not measure up. Just off the top of my head, I have:

Edna Campbell/Texas
Stephanie White/Purdue
Sonja Henning/Stanford
Ruth Riley/ND
Jenny Mowe/Oregon
Stacey Dales/Oklahoma
Alana Beard/Duke
Shameka Christon/Arkansas
Tan White-Mississippi State
Monique Curry/Duke
Sophia Young/Baylor
Lindsey Harding/Duke
Alison Bales/Duke
Ashley/Courtney Paris/Oklahoma
Okay a few on this list had pretty darned good careers. Riley, Currie, Young weren't world beaters but all were good players who did well for their teams and made names for themselves in the league. Beard is one of the best defensive players in league history and just because she never put up huge numbers doesn't mean she didn't measure up.

Also, and I'm not just saying this, but Tan White played 10 years and averaged 8.1 points per game. Anyone who sticks around the WNBA that long did something right.
 
Wow, a lot of memories here. Yes, a lot of folks were better than some remember. I think there is a perception that if they were a great star - and only very good in the W - they were some kind of failure.

As noted by an early poster, the pool of players is so small, that only a few of the collegiate stars are WNBA stars, which does not however make them failures.
 
Charlie Collier comes to mind. A number 1 overall pick who couldn't make it and I don't think it was due to any devastating injuries.
Collier made a verbal commitment to UConn and later changed her mind and committed to Texas. I can’t help feeling that UConn would have prepared her for the WNBA better than she was.

Although not first round draft pick, Megan Gustafson, won virtually every player of the year award as a senior at Iowa, struggled in her first year in the WNBA. She appears to have improved her game in Europe and is now playing for the Mercury. I wish her well for a pro career.
 
Beard was a great scorer until injuries in 2010/2011. She never was a DT caliber player (which many thought she’d be in the pros) but she had a stellar career. Especially when you compare her to the previous and following #2 picks (Tan White and Chantelle Anderson).

Sophia Young was 4x All WNBA too and helped lead her team to the finals in 2008.
Sophia Young came out of nowhere and led Baylor to their first championship and was a top WNBA player for years.
 
One player that hasn't been mentioned yet is Amanda Zahui B. A dominant scorer a rebounder for Minnesota, she hasn't done much in the WNBA. She has a 39/29 in a game against Iowa in the Big 10. She just got traded from the Mystics for Queen Egbo.
 
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I thought Kayla Pederson was going to have a solid WNBA career. I was wrong.
 
I’d say Collier was a bit of a disappointment as a college player. I am a Texas fan who was not that sorry to see her leave a year early. I don’t know how much Geno could have gotten her to develop more.
 
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I’d say Collier was a bit of a disappointment as a college player. I am a Texas fan who was not that sorry to see her leave a year early. I don’t know how much Geno could have gotten her to develop more.
For me, I am of the mindset of "right fit". With a lot of these college players who were "great" at the college level and things did not pan out for them at the pro level, stateside, it is all about that "right fit". Players need a good coach who can see the vision of a player like Collier for that particular team, in this case the Wings. A player like Collier needs the right players around her, like Aliyah Boston found out at the start of the season and how those players could blend her talents into the offensive flow.

A lot of the players mentioned on my list as well as others, injuries played a part of their struggles at the pro level. A lot of players are sitting on benches, like a Megan Gustafson. Could they be better on another team? Could they become stars on their current teams? Who knows. For me, Collier just got caught up with the wrong team at the wrong time. Collier goes to foreign teams and plays decently. Team Mexico: 10/8 in 7 games. Team Israel last year: 13/8/3 apg/ in 24 games.

As for what Geno could or could not have gotten Collier to do? So many "what if" situations. I mean who knows what could have happened. Same if she would have gone to South Carolina or Stanford. We will never know.
 
I’d say Collier was a bit of a disappointment as a college player. I am a Texas fan who was not that sorry to see her leave a year early. I don’t know how much Geno could have gotten her to develop more.
Agreed. She was more of a finesse 6-5 forward who had a tendency to completely shut down against better competition. She wasn't a banger inside. Had she picked UCONN I think it would've been a case similar to Azura Stevens, where she didn't like being primarily a lowpost player for Geno.

2021 was an all time awful draft, so even though Collier went first overall I don't think anyone had particularly high hopes for her, though most probably thought she'd at least make it through her rookie contract.
 
Beard had a 15-year career in the W. That in and of itself is pretty remarkable. She also like Nikki Powell won a championship and was DPOY twice-consecutively- and nine times was on the first or second all defensive team.

So perhaps not a super superstar but a tremendous defensive player and let's face it what percentage of players in the W last 15 years?
I mean the hype behind Beard in college and when she hit the draft was pretty high. I am not trying to diminish her longevity in the W.
 
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Good call @JellyBean as far as fit and opportunity as well. This year Alanna Smith is a prime example. Hardly played and barely did anything for 3 years with Phoenix and 1 year with Indiana. Suddenly she's blossomed playing in Chicago this season.
 
Good call @JellyBean as far as fit and opportunity as well. This year Alanna Smith is a prime example. Hardly played and barely did anything for 3 years with Phoenix and 1 year with Indiana. Suddenly she's blossomed playing in Chicago this season.
The dysfunction in Phoenix over the past three years has been well documented. Really glad to see her having an opportunity to display her skills with the Sky.
 
That was a VERY weak draft.

Players that are (maybe) still in the W:

Kuier
McDonald (injured)
Onyenwere
Evans
Carrington

Not exactly an all-star lineup. Anyone else?

In contrast, the 2020 draft had some stars and other solid players:

Ionescu
Sabally (Satou)
Harris
Hebard
Willoughby
Dangerfield (ROY)
Holmes
Sutton
Take thiis with a grain of salt:

Ionescu is a very, very good pro player. However, I really thought she was going to be recognized as a TOP 3 (under 10 year veterans) in the game by this year. She hasn't quite lived up to my (perhaps over-lofty) expectations) especially related to consistency of her game. When she's on, she is what I expected, but she off-games more frequently than I expected.
 
Take thiis with a grain of salt:

Ionescu is a very, very good pro player. However, I really thought she was going to be recognized as a TOP 3 (under 10 year veterans) in the game by this year. She hasn't quite lived up to my (perhaps over-lofty) expectations) especially related to consistency of her game. When she's on, she is what I expected, but she off-games more frequently than I expected.
She needs to learn not to force things, the same thing with Laney.
Watch Stewie and Sloot, even JJ will make a simple pass first, which leads to another pass and good shot.
The spectacular play is nice, but the simple pass and score is 2 points.
 
I mean the hype behind Beard in college and when she hit the draft was pretty high. I am not trying to diminish her longevity in the W.
It was very high, and you have to look at her career in almost two series:

2004-2009 (Washington): Averaging between 13 and 19ppg; makes 4 All Star games appearances, and 4 appearances on the all defensive first or second team.

2010 and 2011: Injury

2012-2019 (LA): Becomes more of a defensive specialist. Makes three straight WNBA 1st defensive team. Wins two DPOY [in the last 3 years of her career, which is immensely impressive]. Wins title in 2016.

Maybe on offense she didn't live up to the college hype post injury. But I'd argue she was every bit as good as advertised on the defensive end [she finished her career 4th all time in the league in steals].
 
Janelle McCarville, Minnesota and LaToya Thomas, Miss State come to mind. Both #1 picks that underwelmed as pros.
McCarville wasn't terrible, just nothing to write home about.

LaToya Thomas is my all time favorite MSU player in all honesty. She was the highest ranked player to stay in state to attend MSU, and she helped get them to 3 NCAA tournaments after years of the program being the absolute cellar of the SEC. I saw her play in person a couple of times and she was fantastic.

I admit her pro career wasn't good. Injuries played a part but she was somewhat undersized and not particularly fast for a player of her reputation so in retrospect it's not surprising she didn't stick. Perhaps had the Cleveland Rockers not folded after her (respectable but not sensational) rookie year she would have hung around and made them a solid starter and contributor but sometimes these things don't work out.
 
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