triaddukefan
Tobacco Road Gastronomer
- Joined
- Aug 26, 2011
- Messages
- 19,888
- Reaction Score
- 61,143
No offense to Ms. Chong, but this thread was trying to focus on the best collegiate players. Like high first round picks.
Well...I'll give Appel a pass, since she was pretty much physically wrecked before she started her pro career.Let's just be really real. Just about everyone from Stanford but Nneka. (and I very much hope, and expect, Brink to be another exception.)
Nicole well not a superstar but had an 11-year career in the W. It would be interesting to know since inception the average length of a career in the league but I would venture a guess that in winning a championship and other awards such as most improved Nicole Powell certainly had a career above average.Let's just be really real. Just about everyone from Stanford but Nneka. (and I very much hope, and expect, Brink to be another exception.)
Beard had a 15-year career in the W. That in and of itself is pretty remarkable. She also like Nikki Powell won a championship and was DPOY twice-consecutively- and nine times was on the first or second all defensive team.There is a laundry list of players who were Elite college players but their pro career did not measure up. Just off the top of my head, I have:
Alana Beard/Duke
Shameka Christon/Arkansas
Tan White-Mississippi State
Monique Curry/Duke
Sophia Young/Baylor
Lindsey Harding/Duke
Alison Bales/Duke
Ashley/Courtney Paris/Oklahoma
A lot of Stanford players had nice careers but never panned out to the level of success they had in college or were able to sustain careers at a high level. Chiney/Wiggins both were great as rookies but never improved much beyond that.Let's just be really real. Just about everyone from Stanford but Nneka. (and I very much hope, and expect, Brink to be another exception.)
There is a laundry list of players who were Elite college players but their pro career did not measure up. Just off the top of my head, I have:
Edna Campbell/Texas
Stephanie White/Purdue
Sonja Henning/Stanford
Ruth Riley/ND
Jenny Mowe/Oregon
Stacey Dales/Oklahoma
Alana Beard/Duke
Shameka Christon/Arkansas
Tan White-Mississippi State
Monique Curry/Duke
Sophia Young/Baylor
Lindsey Harding/Duke
Alison Bales/Duke
Ashley/Courtney Paris/Oklahoma
KML didn't have the size, or guickness to excell in the WNBA. She was a shooter, and not much else, so she reached her potential.Yeah...no. KML was the #3 overall pick in her draft class, much more was expected of her.
Connecticut Sun drafting Tuck and Banham at #3/#4 has to be 2 of the worst picks in hindsight considering the next 5 picks were Powers (consistent double figure scorer), Jonquel Jones (2021 MVP), Kahleah Copper (2021 Finals MVP and All Star), Courtney Williams (All Star) and Tiffany Mitchell (consistent for 10ppg).I hate to post this, but Morgan Tuck was a great college player who had a tough go in the W. A lot of that was her knees, I'm sure.
Also, Megan Walker was a high draft pick who never blossomed. Maybe she will yet make it.
Playing in UCONN’s system hid a lot of her short comings, but she never got into better shape to improve at the next level. She was always a strong passer too, but it is hard to be a successful shooting specialist without being quick.KML didn't have the size, or guickness to excell in the WNBA. She was a shooter, and not much else, so she reached her potential.
Agree that a lot of the players you listed had very nice pro careers. Given how competitive the league is, anyone who is able to stay in the league for around a decade has had a very nice career, imo.Young had a great pro career. Harding, Christon, Beard, Riley, and Curry also had strong careers that spanned over a decade and they had some great seasons.
Agree on Bales, she was a beast collegiately. White I think could’ve had a better career if she wasn’t in the 1999 class where everyone was overshadowed by the ABL additions.
Beard was a great scorer until injuries in 2010/2011. She never was a DT caliber player (which many thought she’d be in the pros) but she had a stellar career. Especially when you compare her to the previous and following #2 picks (Tan White and Chantelle Anderson).Agree that a lot of the players you listed had very nice pro careers. Given how competitive the league is, anyone who is able to stay in the league for around a decade has had a very nice career, imo.
But I especially need to single out Beard. She is potentially the greatest perimeter defender EVER in the league (not counting Catchings as solely perimeter). A two time DPOY (which amazingly happened in the last 3 years of her career). She was named to an all defensive team NINE times. Sure she didn't score as much in the later years of her career, but she was still playing at an incredibly high level for more than a decade in the league.
Meanwhile, Ruth Riley was the 2003 WNBA Finals MVP!
Connecticut Sun drafting Tuck and Banham at #3/#4 has to be 2 of the worst picks in hindsight considering the next 5 picks were Powers (consistent double figure scorer), Jonquel Jones (2021 MVP), Kahleah Copper (2021 Finals MVP and All Star), Courtney Williams (All Star) and Tiffany Mitchell (consistent for 10ppg).
Ironically they made a couple of finals runs built around Jonquel Jones and Williams despite not drafting them. They got Williams for virtually nothing the next year but traded Chelsea Gray away to get Jones. Banham has been able to stick as a role player and Tuck lasted a couple of years as a role player before ultimately retiring after 5 years.
There is a laundry list of players who were Elite college players but their pro career did not measure up. Just off the top of my head, I have:
Edna Campbell/Texas
Stephanie White/Purdue
Sonja Henning/Stanford
Ruth Riley/ND
Jenny Mowe/Oregon
Stacey Dales/Oklahoma
Alana Beard/Duke
Shameka Christon/Arkansas
Tan White-Mississippi State
Monique Curry/Duke
Sophia Young/Baylor
Lindsey Harding/Duke
Alison Bales/Duke
Ashley/Courtney Paris/Oklahoma
What were the top 2?Off the top of my head that was the 3rd dumbest trade in the history of my life.
What were the top 2?
Okay a few on this list had pretty darned good careers. Riley, Currie, Young weren't world beaters but all were good players who did well for their teams and made names for themselves in the league. Beard is one of the best defensive players in league history and just because she never put up huge numbers doesn't mean she didn't measure up.There is a laundry list of players who were Elite college players but their pro career did not measure up. Just off the top of my head, I have:
Edna Campbell/Texas
Stephanie White/Purdue
Sonja Henning/Stanford
Ruth Riley/ND
Jenny Mowe/Oregon
Stacey Dales/Oklahoma
Alana Beard/Duke
Shameka Christon/Arkansas
Tan White-Mississippi State
Monique Curry/Duke
Sophia Young/Baylor
Lindsey Harding/Duke
Alison Bales/Duke
Ashley/Courtney Paris/Oklahoma
Collier made a verbal commitment to UConn and later changed her mind and committed to Texas. I can’t help feeling that UConn would have prepared her for the WNBA better than she was.Charlie Collier comes to mind. A number 1 overall pick who couldn't make it and I don't think it was due to any devastating injuries.
Sophia Young came out of nowhere and led Baylor to their first championship and was a top WNBA player for years.Beard was a great scorer until injuries in 2010/2011. She never was a DT caliber player (which many thought she’d be in the pros) but she had a stellar career. Especially when you compare her to the previous and following #2 picks (Tan White and Chantelle Anderson).
Sophia Young was 4x All WNBA too and helped lead her team to the finals in 2008.