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To me the preponderance of evidence suggests pretty strongly that Boyle is not available to play. Diaco's comments, while cryptic strongly indicate that as does the decision to hold him out of the South Florida game and his limited use against Temple and the decision to give Foxx some snaps at quarterback. If Diaco was even a bit clearer in his explanations this might be pretty obvious. Bottom line is I think we'll continue to see little of Boyle until he is healthy, whatever that means. I originally thought that Diaco had invented this hurt but not injured meme to cover for not playing Boyle at USF. After Temple, though I have changed my mind. I suspect he has something, let's call it a booboo, that is limiting his ability to play quarterback.
 
freescooter said:
To me the preponderance of evidence suggests pretty strongly that Boyle is not available to play. Diaco's comments, while cryptic strongly indicate that as does the decision to hold him out of the South Florida game and his limited use against Temple and the decision to give Foxx some snaps at quarterback. If Diaco was even a bit clearer in his explanations this might be pretty obvious. Bottom line is I think we'll continue to see little of Boyle until he is healthy, whatever that means. I originally thought that Diaco had invented this hurt but not injured meme to cover for not playing Boyle at USF. After Temple, though I have changed my mind. I suspect he has something, let's call it a booboo, that is limiting his ability to play quarterback.
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That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out post.

Who are you and what did you do with the REAL Freescooter?
 
freescooter said:
To me the preponderance of evidence suggests pretty strongly that Boyle is not available to play. Diaco's comments, while cryptic strongly indicate that as does the decision to hold him out of the South Florida game and his limited use against Temple and the decision to give Foxx some snaps at quarterback. If Diaco was even a bit clearer in his explanations this might be pretty obvious. Bottom line is I think we'll continue to see little of Boyle until he is healthy, whatever that means. I originally thought that Diaco had invented this hurt but not injured meme to cover for not playing Boyle at USF. After Temple, though I have changed my mind. I suspect he has something, let's call it a booboo, that is limiting his ability to play quarterback.
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I had a booboo once...man those things are brutal and take forever to heal.
 
I think Diaco's discussion of injuries is legally correct in today's world, especially for institutions like UConn. Many of us are used to the NFL's injury policy which requires disclosure and it is why we get detailed injury reports. It seems NFL teams are not covered entities under HIPAA, which is why they are allowed/required to disclose. Unfortunately, we don't like it, but it is what it is. It does seem that college athlete injury disclosure policies are not universal.

As for Boyle's pain/injury. It doesn't surprise me that he could have pain in his lower leg and only gets limited minutes on the field. Imagine if you are a jogger and you are recovering from a sprained ankle. You would probably slowly ramp your mileage until you got back to full strength. Ramping your miles too fast could cause you to reinjure your ankle.
 
Pudge said:
Watch the Temple interception. (it is easily available on ESPN video)

The play begins with a decent Temple rush; but, the 5 OLinemen (including Rutherford, Hopkins, Bockeloh, Crozier, Knappe) do a solid job creating a pocket. All looks good and no real pressure. Just an inaccurate undisciplined toss.

I don't know if Tim Boyle rises to Dan Orlovsky. He needs a chance; and I guess that is the argument. But, be careful with your expectations. He does not give us a better chance ... probably ... than Chandler Whitmer today. That probably comes down to, and not just the COACH view, leadership. But at 1-4, we now know what this season is about: the Future years. We will see Boyle pushed out on that field far more. He needs to grow and develop ... and let's change our mindset as a fanbase as this happens. He is going to duck*up.
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A few things Pudge:

1. You listed the backup OL. I am fairly certain the starting OL (Levy, Cruz, Mateas, Samra and Gifford) was in. I'm fairly certain that is the play that Gifford got hurt on.

2. So are you retracting yesterday's comment that his arm got hit as he threw? I haven't gone back and watched (I'd rather kill myself) but live it just look like an underthrow of a ball that can't be underthrown.

3. Of course Boyle isn't going to make us a much better team.

4. If Boyle is healthy, I would expect that he does get more of a serious audition, and not just a cameo, by New Orleans. As to his physical condition, I'm not wasting my time trying to figure out WTF HCBD is saying. What he has said, in whole, is totally illogical, but we don't lose games based on what he says to the press or fans so I'm not wasting my breath guessing what he means.
 
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businesslawyer said:
A few things Pudge:

1. You listed the backup OL. I am fairly certain the starting OL (Levy, Cruz, Mateas, Samra and Gifford) was in. I'm fairly certain that is the play that Gifford got hurt on.

2. So are you retracting yesterday's comment that his arm got hit as he threw? I haven't gone back and watched (I'd rather kill myself) but live it just look like an underthrow of a ball that can't be underthrown.

3. Of course Boyle isn't going to make us a much better team.

4. If Boyle is healthy, I would expect that he does get more of a serious audition, and not just a cameo, by New Orleans. As to his physical condition, I'm not wasting my time trying to figure out WTF HCBD is saying. What he has said, in whole, is totally illogical, but we don't lose games based on what he says to the press or fans so I'm not wasting my breath guessing what he means.
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You are confusing Boyle's pick with Whitmer's pick.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
You are confusing Boyle's pick with Whitmer's pick.
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Totally understandable really. For me at least. By the time the 4th quarter of games has been rolling around recently, progressively over the past 3 seasons, I"ve been pretty cocked and the field and numbers pretty blurry, if I'm still even watching. The team's performance over the past 3.41666666666 seasons has not been good for my drinking habits. I drink more, sleep less. Oh well. It's good to have a bye week.
 
businesslawyer said:
A few things Pudge:

1. You listed the backup OL. I am fairly certain the starting OL (Levy, Cruz, Mateas, Samra and Gifford) was in. I'm fairly certain that is the play that Gifford got hurt on.

2. So are you retracting yesterday's comment that his arm got hit as he threw? I haven't gone back and watched (I'd rather kill myself) but live it just look like an underthrow of a ball that can't be underthrown.

3. Of course Boyle isn't going to make us a much better team.

4. If Boyle is healthy, I would expect that he does get more of a serious audition, and not just a cameo, by New Orleans. As to his physical condition, I'm not wasting my time trying to figure out WTF HCBD is saying. What he has said, in whole, is totally illogical, but we don't lose games based on what he says to the press or fans so I'm not wasting my breath guessing what he means.
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HEY ... you must be deep into something important; because, this post of yours is nonsense.

I said Boyle.

I watched the ESPN video ... stopped it every 3-5 seconds ... watching the second team OLine. And I dragged out the Roster ... and went number by number. ( I had never seen number 70 before) I got to see Hashemi run a route ... with 2 guys on him.

It was Boyle. WHITMER did have his arm hit on his interception; hence, it was not near enough flight for Foxx. But ... this Boyle one ... he just did not bear down and make a D1 throw. And the play was doable.

A BYE is a good thing.
 
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Pudge said:
HEY ... you must be deep into something important; because, this post of yours is nonsense.

I said Boyle.

I watched the ESPN video ... stopped it every 3-5 seconds ... watching the second team OLine. And I dragged out the Roster ... and went number by number. ( I had never seen number 70 before) I got to see Hashemi run a route ... with 2 guys on him.

It was Boyle. WHITMER did have his arm hit on his interception; hence, it was not near enough flight for Foxx. But ... this Boyle one ... he just did not bear down and make a D1 throw. And the play was doable.

A BYE is a good thing.
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Hashemi has played? His RS is burned?
 
Carl Spackler said:
Are you surprised? If so, why?
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Yes. There are 3 TE's ahead of him (McQuillan, Myers, Bloom). TE is probably not going to be his position in the future (he was recruited as an OT). I thought they moved him there for depth purposes only (along with Lawley). I believe he's only getting garbage time. That is a complete waste of a year. It's Pasqualoni-esque if you ask me.

But I'm sure you'll have some brilliant explanation why it was necessary to play Hashemi.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
Yes. There are 3 TE's ahead of him (McQuillan, Myers, Bloom). TE is probably not going to be his position in the future (he was recruited as an OT). I thought they moved him there for depth purposes only (along with Lawley). I believe he's only getting garbage time. That is a complete waste of a year. It's Pasqualoni-esque if you ask me.

But I'm sure you'll have some brilliant explanation why it was necessary to play Hashemi.
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Seriously? I've been asking for one for weeks - since BYU - since we claimed some kind of moral victory by playing 50+ players on offense, and 35+ or something on defense - as to WTF we are doing with all these substitutions.

It doesn't surprise me at all that Hashemi was in the game, I bet he's played more than that. It wouldn't surprise me if we have a single player on this roster, that qualifies for a red-shirt season, and no, I have no explanation.
 
Carl Spackler said:
Seriously? I've been asking for one for weeks - since BYU - since we claimed some kind of moral victory by playing 50+ players on offense, and 35+ or something on defense - as to WTF we are doing with all these substitutions.

It doesn't surprise me at all that Hashemi was in the game, I bet he's played more than that. It wouldn't surprise me if we have a single player on this roster, that qualifies for a red-shirt season, and no, I have no explanation.
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My apologies. This whole year is making me cranky.
 
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Temple is the only game Hashemi has played in.

It makes sense to someone.
 
It seems HCBD wants to see what Hashemi can do (especially as blocking TE), and garbage time, when the game is out of reach, is a good time (bettered only by garbage time when the game is out of reach for our opponent...but that seems unlikely this season).

It's not ideal, but i understand that he needs to see who can do what in games because those who have been in there haven't been getting it done. my 0.02

He said before the season that Hashemi would play this year. He never said when.
 
current regime seems to also aspire to LittleLeague slaughter rule in addition to "everyone pways including elmer fun i mean fud" as referenced above
 
Carl Spackler said:
Seriously? I've been asking for one for weeks - since BYU - since we claimed some kind of moral victory by playing 50+ players on offense, and 35+ or something on defense - as to WTF we are doing with all these substitutions.

It doesn't surprise me at all that Hashemi was in the game, I bet he's played more than that. It wouldn't surprise me if we have a single player on this roster, that qualifies for a red-shirt season, and no, I have no explanation.
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Sheriden Lawley, Brice McAllister, James Atkins, Anthony Watkins, Chris Britton, and Daniel Oak. I don't believe I have seen them on the field yet.
 
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BNich said:
Sheriden Lawley, Brice McAllister, James Atkins, Anthony Watkins, Chris Britton, and Daniel Oak. I don't believe I have seen them on the field yet.
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There's still seven games to go, no rush.
 
Husky25 said:
That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out post. Who are you and what did you do with the REAL Freescooter?
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He is usually fine when not talking about Warde.
 
junglehusky said:
Unless we play Boyle and UConn doesn't win, which would be lose-win. Or he gets injured, like truly injured, which would be lose-lose.
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whaler11 said:
Temple is the only game Hashemi has played in.

It makes sense to someone.
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Hashemi has been playing on special teams all season.
I wouldve preferred that he redshirted and put on 25 lbs to become an OT.
Because we have of plenty of freshmen TE's.
 
huskyblooz said:
Hashemi has been playing on special teams all season.
I wouldve preferred that he redshirted and put on 25 lbs to become an OT.
Because we have of plenty of freshmen TE's.
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I thought he played more too but isn't on any participation reports prior to Temple.
 
freescooter said:
To me the preponderance of evidence suggests pretty strongly that Boyle is not available to play. Diaco's comments, while cryptic strongly indicate that as does the decision to hold him out of the South Florida game and his limited use against Temple and the decision to give Foxx some snaps at quarterback. If Diaco was even a bit clearer in his explanations this might be pretty obvious. Bottom line is I think we'll continue to see little of Boyle until he is healthy, whatever that means. I originally thought that Diaco had invented this hurt but not injured meme to cover for not playing Boyle at USF. After Temple, though I have changed my mind. I suspect he has something, let's call it a booboo, that is limiting his ability to play quarterback.
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Why even play him then? Why not let him get fully healed from his booboo.
I think the majority of players with booboo's play football or they are injured and they dont play.

Boyle played a series in the first quarter I believe and the 4th quarter of the Temple game - when did the pain effect his ability to play - after the interception in the fourth?
 
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