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Baylor brings back 2023 Draft pick

A few thoughts on how to reverse this screwed up direction before its too late:

1. No mid season transfers allowed, no exceptions.

2. Any player who wants to transfer to a different school for the following year must wait until the final NCAA tournament game has been played. Any player is only allowed 1 transfer per college career.

3. Any player who wishes to return to college from the G league or other professional league (providing he has college eligibility left) cannot make more in college than he was paid in the pros.

4. There needs to be a hard team salary cap initiated and tenaciously monitored.

5. Any school violating these new rules would be heavily sanctioned, suspended for 3 years from the NCAA tournament and not share in any revenue sharing.

The whole situation has turned into a s*show due to players now being considered school employees. I’m not an expert on labor laws but some of my suggestions could be challenged in court I suppose.
 
"You know, we play in front of big crowds. We travel well. I mean, I could see what's appealing for G League players to want to return to college, but I just don't want to lose our donors. You lose your fans, you lose your current students, what I think has been a great connection for those are the people that drive our sport too. Those are the people that buy tickets, support the program, make it possible for us to function the way that we do, if we lose them, you know, like if they just think this is just some mercenary thing, if education just goes completely out the window here, like that. We're just basically, we're like, college basketball is the G League, and I just don't know that ruining college basketball is the right direction."


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UConn coach Dan Hurley weighs in on ex-NBA Draft pick joining Baylor: 'We need leadership'​

 
Waquoit said:
What does Charlie Baker do with his time?
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How is he still NCAA President? The health of college sports has been in decline since he’s been in charge & it looks like he’s done nothing to try to stop it. But a serious correction is desperately needed soon. To me, Congress needs to legislate unambiguous anti-trust exemptions to allow the NCAA to set reasonable rules for eligibility and govern in a way that recognizes that it’s supposed to be competition among college students.
 
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Kowalski said:
How is he still NCAA President? The health of college sports has been in decline since he’s been in charge & it looks like he’s done nothing to try to stop it. But a serious correction is desperately needed soon. To me, Congress needs to legislate unambiguous anti-trust exemptions to allow the NCAA to set reasonable rules for eligibility and govern in a way that recognizes that it’s supposed to be competition among college students.
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Where is this guy? When does he even show his face? You'd think you'd hear something from the guy when key topics like this show up.
 
Charlie Baker isn't the president of college basketball. He's the President of the NCAA. There are 3 divisions, 24 sports, 1,100+ schools, 20,000 teams, 500,000+ athletes in the NCAA. He's not going to react to every college basketball news story out there.
 
auror said:
Charlie Baker isn't the president of college basketball. He's the President of the NCAA. There are 3 divisions, 24 sports, 1,100+ schools, 20,000 teams, 500,000+ athletes in the NCAA. He's not going to react to every college basketball news story out there.
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He’s not going to react to the biggest story?
 
auror said:
Charlie Baker isn't the president of college basketball. He's the President of the NCAA. There are 3 divisions, 24 sports, 1,100+ schools, 20,000 teams, 500,000+ athletes in the NCAA. He's not going to react to every college basketball news story out there.
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Well then I guess Hurley is right. College basketball needs its own commissioner.
 
auror said:
He's not going to react to every college basketball news story out there.
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Especially not after that riveting women's volleyball final!

Leaders understand what's going to have impact, especially negative impact. Like this. Charlie is just a guy with the illusion of competence.
 
Waquoit said:
Especially not after that riveting women's volleyball final!

Leaders understand what's going to have impact, especially negative impact. Like this. Charlie is just a guy with the illusion of competence.
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What would you like him to say?

"Baylor found a guy who is eligible under the way we wrote the rules. When we wrote the rules, we didn't anticipate a guy who grew up in Europe and then got drafted in the NBA who was still of college age would then want to play college basketball and join a team mid-season. We're going to have the Men's Basketball Oversight Committee and Men's Basketball Rules Panel take a look at the rules when they meet in May in Indianapolis, but unfortunately we've had to selectively enforce the rules surrounding international and G League players so as not to get sued to oblivion, and it has created corner cases in the eligibility rules."

Because there's not much else he can say.
 
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auror said:
Charlie Baker isn't the president of college basketball. He's the President of the NCAA. There are 3 divisions, 24 sports, 1,100+ schools, 20,000 teams, 500,000+ athletes in the NCAA. He's not going to react to every college basketball news story out there.
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UConnTrumbull said:
He’s not going to react to the biggest story?
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And here lies the irony of this situation. The needs of fans, whether they’re billionaires or average joes, has been the driving force for this out of control downward spiral of college sports. Our needs, our desires, has catalyzed and reinforced it.

It always comes down to money and power. Our interest is the primary reason for the corruption of college sports. The biggest story should be that most of the 24 sports and most of the athletes fit the definition of student athletes. The rampant failure is in the two sports that happen to be attractive to American fans. We pushed up the price of tickets. We made football and basketball attractive to the media. And with all that money came the resulting situation we’re now in.

And like all situations where one’s vested interest is getting ruined we want someone outside of ourselves to fix it. I applaud auror for rising above the Boneyard tribal anger and indignation regarding this issue. We’re a mob on a mission. It’s the players, it’s the NCAA, it’s the power conferences, it’s the courts, it’s Congress. They have failed us. They certainly have played roles in this failure. But we have been the driving force. Most of college sports have remained true to their name. Basketball and football have not.

I have been as guilty as most fans. I tried to ignore the stink that runs through sports that I love and followed for a long time. I stopped after we got dinged for our APR. It was atrocious that it went unjustly retroactively. But more than that I knew we were were getting sanctioned for trying to be honest while other universities were doing what we later observed with UNC.

I understand why this is the biggest story for some in this forum. I’m not interested in stopping it. I regret calling out @superjohn. Truth be told I’ve admired him for his stances on a lot of issues. So peace brother.
 
Sadly for the past handful of years the NCAA has decided that it us better to do nothing, and avoid potential litigation than to take the lead in what can evolve into a divisive issue, which could alienate schools or conferences that they are afraid of.

But at least they took decisive action on a D-3 cross country runner (Mohamed Bati) to demonstrate that they still have some authority
 
This is literally trade deadline mentality.

Baylor's best defensive big transfer addition never suited up due to an injury, so they've got a fantastic offense but rank 103rd at KP defense. They're suiting up a guy who averaged 24 mpg at Rice as their starting center, so they are dire for an impact defender at the 5 and with "the deadline" approaching, they acquired a guy who fits their biggest need.

Is Baylor slimy for doing this? No. It's the climate the NCAA has allowed. Personally, I don't think UConn has any glaring needs, but if they did, then f it, might as well "play by the rules" and get your man.

So weird.
 
Notable players who theoretically would now have eligibility to play in the NCAA

Dink PateIzan
Almansa Malique
Lewis Jean
Montero Hugo
Besson Ismael
Kamagate Matteo
Spagnolo Yannick
Nzosa Bogoljub
Markovic Saliou
Niang Juan
Nunez Will
Travers Gabriel
Procida Khalifa Diop
 
HooperScooper said:
"You know, we play in front of big crowds. We travel well. I mean, I could see what's appealing for G League players to want to return to college, but I just don't want to lose our donors. You lose your fans, you lose your current students, what I think has been a great connection for those are the people that drive our sport too. Those are the people that buy tickets, support the program, make it possible for us to function the way that we do, if we lose them, you know, like if they just think this is just some mercenary thing, if education just goes completely out the window here, like that. We're just basically, we're like, college basketball is the G League, and I just don't know that ruining college basketball is the right direction."
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Has any other coach said this out loud? I hate this stuff, I'm closer than ever to leaving. I quit the NFL and haven't missed it. I even cut the cord completely. No cable, no YouTubeTV and it's ilk. Just streamers. One adapts quickly.
 
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CL82 said:
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Hope he's not implying ageism. Unless there's a rule that a 36 yo with a family going to college can't play sports. (I actually don't know.) But, why not the same rules for bball and fball as all other sports? That's actually been the issue all along due to the $ and who gets it. Baseball seems to have this all figured out already.
 
ctchamps said:
And here lies the irony of this situation. The needs of fans, whether they’re billionaires or average joes, has been the driving force for this out of control downward spiral of college sports. Our needs, our desires, has catalyzed and reinforced it.

It always comes down to money and power. Our interest is the primary reason for the corruption of college sports. The biggest story should be that most of the 24 sports and most of the athletes fit the definition of student athletes. The rampant failure is in the two sports that happen to be attractive to American fans. We pushed up the price of tickets. We made football and basketball attractive to the media. And with all that money came the resulting situation we’re now in.

And like all situations where one’s vested interest is getting ruined we want someone outside of ourselves to fix it. I applaud auror for rising above the Boneyard tribal anger and indignation regarding this issue. We’re a mob on a mission. It’s the players, it’s the NCAA, it’s the power conferences, it’s the courts, it’s Congress. They have failed us. They certainly have played roles in this failure. But we have been the driving force. Most of college sports have remained true to their name. Basketball and football have not.

I have been as guilty as most fans. I tried to ignore the stink that runs through sports that I love and followed for a long time. I stopped after we got dinged for our APR. It was atrocious that it went unjustly retroactively. But more than that I knew we were were getting sanctioned for trying to be honest while other universities were doing what we later observed with UNC.

I understand why this is the biggest story for some in this forum. I’m not interested in stopping it. I regret calling out @superjohn. Truth be told I’ve admired him for his stances on a lot of issues. So peace brother.
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Thanks. I can't like any posts but I like this one and a bunch of other posts of yours.
 
ctchamps said:
Then I take back everything nice I wrote about you!😎
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Next question:

Every year there are a handful of misguided kids who believe they are among the top 30, 40, 50 draft eligible basketball players and due to overvaluing where they stand in the eyes of NBA teams, bad advice from outsiders, whatever reason, declare, but go undrafted.

Will they no longer need to withdraw by a deadline in order to retain college eligibility?
 
Will be interesting to see how well this dude plays because the GLeague player who committed to Santa Clara is below average. Baylor needs depth and bodies up front and I doubt Nnaji will be anything more than that. The way some of these coaches have been reacting to these signings is like Birdie seeing Shep check in in "Above The Rim" but these guys are mid at best.

 
FearThePups said:
A few thoughts on how to reverse this screwed up direction before its too late:

1. No mid season transfers allowed, no exceptions.

2. Any player who wants to transfer to a different school for the following year must wait until the final NCAA tournament game has been played. Any player is only allowed 1 transfer per college career.

3. Any player who wishes to return to college from the G league or other professional league (providing he has college eligibility left) cannot make more in college than he was paid in the pros.

4. There needs to be a hard team salary cap initiated and tenaciously monitored.

5. Any school violating these new rules would be heavily sanctioned, suspended for 3 years from the NCAA tournament and not share in any revenue sharing.

The whole situation has turned into a s*show due to players now being considered school employees. I’m not an expert on labor laws but some of my suggestions could be challenged in court I suppose.
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All of these are anti trust violations. The Supreme Court has already established that treating college athletes any different than college students is a no go.
 
How Sway?! said:
All of these are anti trust violations. The Supreme Court has already established that treating college athletes any different than college students is a no go.
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You’re right but then what’s stopping LeBron from joining the college ranks? What’s keeping the 4 year eligibility requirements in tact? Ironically the only rules that normal college students would need to abide by are staying in good academic and behavioral standing, which rarely matters in college athletics.
 
How Sway?! said:
All of these are anti trust violations. The Supreme Court has already established that treating college athletes any different than college students is a no go.
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So you are saying that every one of my 5 suggestions have been voted down by the Supreme Court?
 
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