Baylor (4) @ South Carolina () - 12/2/18

[cockhrnleghrn]

South Carolina is not a good team. They have some good individual players but they are not a good team. This will be a long season if these things continue.

They need some average competition to get used to playing together. I see a lack of confidence right now.

 

[SCspur]

Agree SC looks terrible but anyone who think they will be elite next because of their recruits is forgetting relying on freshmen is risky. Boston’s level of competition next likely challenge her, I believe you have to have returning elite players to be elite.

Boston isn’t our only recruit coming in. We have 3 others who are elite at their position and will contribute. Of course as State fan you would try to sell her short but in the same breath give praise to your players.

Are you saying Miss st won’t be elite next year after losing McCowan and her counterparts?

 

[Vowelguy]

They need some average competition to get used to playing together. I

The conference schedule is just around the corner.

 

[Vowelguy]

Boston isn’t our only recruit coming in. We have 3 others who are elite at their position and will contribute.

With Cooper & Harris, SC is more established at G for next year. Less competition on the front line.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Probably start
Cooper (Sr)
Harris (Sr)
Herbert-Harrigan (Sr)
Boston (Fr)

with Cooke (Fr), Beal (Fr), Jackson (Jr), Grissett (Jr) ?

From my perspective, LeLe Grissett over Herbert-Harrigan all day long.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Does S. Carolina belong in the top 25??

Not right now.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

With Cooper & Harris, SC is more established at G for next year. Less competition on the front line.

Yeah, I don't see the class coming in like the Fab Four and starting together.

I think Boston starts. Amihere and Cooke come off the bench. Beal may have a shot to start, but I haven't really seen a lot of her to have a sense. But a spot on the wing is up for grabs.

I'm not sure whether Cooper is the talent surrounded by drab or if she's just a high usage scorer that doesn't really fit well with the other pieces.

I've been super disappointed in Ty harris this year.

 

[HopJim]

Because DAWN STALEY is second rate coach, all those recruits and no coach, I feel sorry for them

 

[UConnCat]

I'm not sure whether Cooper is the talent surrounded by drab or if she's just a high usage scorer that doesn't really fit well with the other pieces.

You phrased that perfectly and zeroed in on the questions surrounding Cooper.

 

[HopJim]

I was very impressed with Baylor today. Baylor did whatever they wanted today, and they have some solid athletes on their team. If Baylor's guards can continue to make their open shots, Baylor looks like a legit Final 4 Team this year. Now having said that, I really am looking forward to seeing if Baylor can handle UCONN's defense. Should make for a very entertaining game.

Agree that Baylor played within their system on both offense and defense. While Megan Walker did a wonderful job guarding Turner during the ND game, nervous how she will go against another 4 inches and 30-40+.

 

[BobbyJ]

Yes, that’s why she was chosen to be coach of the US Olympic National team

I don’t know, I don’t want to discredit dawn, but I don’t think she has the ability to coach or develop. I think she has the ability to recruit and make players want to come to South Carolina because of her pedigree. I think she won the championship the year she did based on talent and not coaching and of course UConn’s loss to Miss St. - A’Ja was going to be the player she is any way, that had nothing to do with Dawn’s coaching.
Same goes for Aston at Texas, I can assure you Charli Collier would be utilized much better right now. Did you see how well Ariel Atkins flourished once she was out of that system?

She doesn't but you're not allowed to point that out. Around here she's the Teflon coach. Stagnant offense with no flow, bad passing, and no spacing. Non existent help defense or wing pressure. These are not her responsibilities so don't blame her.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

She doesn't but you're not allowed to point that out. Around here she's the Teflon coach. Stagnant offense with no flow, bad passing, and no spacing. Non existent help defense or wing pressure. These are not her responsibilities so don't blame her.

Staley has had tried very hard to land most of the great offensive players in the country in recent years and has mostly fallen short.

When she can't get the elite, multi-tooled players that have gone to other elite programs she's defaulted to athletic players who can drive and defend over shooters pretty much every time.

Maybe that's a bad choice, but it took her from the basement of the SEC to the National Title so I can't say it was all bad.

I'd happily watch if Muffett or Geno would like to trade rosters with her.

 

[DeeHusky]

Staley has had tried very hard to land most of the great offensive players in the country in recent years and has mostly fallen short.

When she can't get the elite, multi-tooled players that have gone to other elite programs she's defaulted to athletic players who can drive and defender over shooters pretty much every time.

Maybe that's a bad choice, but it took her from the basement of the SEC to the National Title so I can't say it was all bad.

I'd happily watch if Muffett or Geno would like to trade rosters with her.

Wouldn’t trade rosters, but I’m almost 100% sure both could do a better job

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Wouldn’t trade rosters, but I’m almost 100% sure both could do a better job

Thats fine. Maybe they could. We'll likely never know because they won't ever been in the position.

My question for Staley's program is whether this recruiting class reflects a breakthrough or if it is going to be an outlier.

When we get to the place where the perimeter players are all coming in with shooting ability, then I'll start to worry about bad spacing. You can't control how the defense plays you unless you can make the shots. that's ultimately a function of recruiting players that can shoot.

 

[DeeHusky]

Thats fine. Maybe they could. We'll likely never know because they won't ever been in the position.

My question for Staley's program is whether this recruiting class reflects a breakthrough or if it is going to be an outlier.

When we get to the place where the perimeter players are all coming in with shooting ability, then I'll start to worry about bad spacing. You can't control how the defense plays you unless you can make the shots. that's ultimately a function of recruiting players that can shoot.

It’s really a down year for y’all because you don’t have a dominant post player when that has always been your identity so now you really have to coach. In the past years, they have always had post players and penetrating guards that could make up for the streaky or mediocre shooting. I’m sorry, but I just have never seen a flow within her offense. Even the year they won, it was just throw it in to Wilson and let her make a play and she did. They also had Gray and Davis who could make plays. That was Ty Harris best season, haven’t seen much from her since.

Hopefully these players coming in can really shoot and it will keep the defense honest instead of playing sagging defense. This will alllow her to come up with an offense that fires on all cylinders.