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mavblues said:
BTW, RUlookinatme posted that UConn to B1G was "done" at 2:03 PM yesterday afternoon. (Had previously posted on 11/23 that Delany wanted the northeast "lock, stock, and barrel".)

Remind me again at what time yesterday all the rumors started flying that Louisville was suddenly picking up votes in ACC?
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Around then maybe a two hours later. Blauds said ul was a vote short at 6. I think something popped out before that though
 
8893 said:
There is no third option. There is also no first option. Manuel and Herbst don't say what they have said since the Louisville news broke if the B1G is even a remote possibility for us. They ducked up. Period.
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Just curious: in your mind, what exactly would they have said if B1G was going to happen??
 
mavblues said:
Just curious: in your mind, what exactly would they have said if B1G was going to happen??
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Same thing they were saying all along, until now: "We are continuing to monitor the changing landscape of conference realignment to determine what it means for us." And "We are continuing to position ourselves for the best fit for our University and our student-athletes."

Now that has changed to:

Manuel: I think we were a better choice (than Louisville for the ACC), but I'm biased.

Herbst: Remember that our success has been in the Big East. Conference realignment is out of our control.

Do those sound like the comments of people who believe we have a chance in hell of getting a B1G invite?
 
Respect your opinion, just disagree with your conclusions. Responses follow:

8893 said:
Same thing they were saying all along, until now: "We are continuing to monitor the changing landscape of conference realignment to determine what it means for us." And "We are continuing to position ourselves for the best fit for our University and our student-athletes."

Now that has changed to:

Manuel: I think we were a better choice (than Louisville for the ACC), but I'm biased. WELL, WE ARE A BETTER CHOICE, SO THAT"S AN ACCURATE STATEMENT.

Herbst: Remember that our success has been in the Big East. Conference realignment is out of our control. BOTH OF THOSE STATEMENTS ARE FACTUALLY CORRECT.

Do those sound like the comments of people who believe we have a chance in hell of getting a B1G invite? FRANKLY, I MIGHT BE CONCERNED IF THEY STARTED WHINING ABOUT LOUISVILLE GETTING PICKED OVER US. HAVEN"T SEEN THAT YET.
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This RULookingatMe guy might be my new favorite poster. I hope he is right about UCONN/UVA deal. I still can't imagine how the ACC pass us over for UL. There is just no freaking way these ACC presidents would vote a 160th ranked school into their academic conference over us. I just don't see it unless we are really going to B1G. How many cable subs can we bring the B1G network? I sure hope we are out there pimping those numbers to B1G presidents.
 
I think Delany wants UVA, and I think they like being courted, but I don't think they'll leave (hence the delay). Nothing to base that on other than a hunch.

I do think Syracuse will be going with us.

$30MM to $40MM per school, depending on results of the NYC cable negotiations. UConn, Syracuse, and RU all on the same network.
 
mavblues said:
I think Delany wants UVA, and I think they like being courted, but I don't think they'll leave (hence the delay). Nothing to base that on other than a hunch.

I do think Syracuse will be going with us.

$30MM to $40MM per school, depending on results of the NYC cable negotiations. UConn, Syracuse, and RU all on the same network.
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This would be the right move (or one could make an argument for BC instead of Cuse for Boston, but either one works). Lock up the entire north and all the population that resides in it. "...from northern Virginia to southern New England..." Let's hope that the B1G figures that out before we suffer any collateral damage to our programs...
 
SYR over BC by a couple of lengths. CUSE is in NY and would at least try to compete on the field.

If the BiG picks adds a private school it's Cuse.

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SubbaBub said:
SYR over BC by a couple of lengths. CUSE is in NY and would at least try to compete on the field.

If the BiG picks adds a private school it's Cuse.

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Good point. The B1G would probably assess the BC pull of the Boston market to be small and not worth the trouble. Syracuse at least has a few percentage points of play in NYC...
 
Manuel: I think we were a better choice (than Louisville for the ACC), but I'm biased. WELL, WE ARE A BETTER CHOICE, SO THAT"S AN ACCURATE STATEMENT.

Herbst: Remember that our success has been in the Big East. Conference realignment is out of our control. BOTH OF THOSE STATEMENTS ARE FACTUALLY CORRECT.

Do those sound like the comments of people who believe we have a chance in hell of getting a B1G invite? FRANKLY, I MIGHT BE CONCERNED IF THEY STARTED WHINING ABOUT LOUISVILLE GETTING PICKED OVER US. HAVEN"T SEEN THAT YET.
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mavblues, I am humored by your optimism. I read both of their recent comments as whining about Louisville getting picked over us. Whether we were a better choice than Louisville for the ACC or not, they chose Louisville. If Manuel thought he had a B1G invite coming he would have kept his mouth shut instead of saying we were a better choice for the ACC. As for Herbst, all of a sudden she's waxing nostalgic for a conference that she has heretofore snubbed? And, btw, the conference for which she pines doesn't exist anymore. Most of it is now in the ACC. I also disagree that realignment is out of the control of any one school. Louisville pretty clearly took control of its own destiny and changed it, to our detriment. She and Manuel got outmaneuvered. Badly.

There is no B1G invite for UConn and I am more convinced than ever that there never will be. There are two options:

(1) Stay in whatever is left of the Big East, forget about football, and hope for occasional basketball success as a high mid-major; or
(2) Go to the ACC when they have little choice but to accept us after they are raided by the B1G again.

Even though #2 is better for basketball, I now hope we never, ever go to the ACC. It is embarrassing and humiliating imo to join a conference whose members have treated us so badly. I would rather just remember the really good days and enjoy occasionally knocking off a big from a major conference in basketball.
 
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It really comes down to which conference is the first to say they want to go to 16 and makes it a reality.

If 16 is the end game, then I have to think the ACC shot itself in the foot with ND.
 
8893 said:
mavblues, I am humored by your optimism. I read both of their recent comments as whining about Louisville getting picked over us. Whether we were a better choice than Louisville for the ACC or not, they chose Louisville. If Manuel thought he had a B1G invite coming he would have kept his mouth shut instead of saying we were a better choice for the ACC. As for Herbst, all of a sudden she's waxing nostalgic for a conference that she has heretofore snubbed? And, btw, the conference for which she pines doesn't exist anymore. Most of it is now in the ACC. I also disagree that realignment is out of the control of any one school. Louisville pretty clearly took control of its own destiny and changed it, to our detriment. She and Manuel got outmaneuvered. Badly.

There is no B1G invite for UConn and I am more convinced than ever that there never will be. There are two options:

(1) Stay in whatever is left of the Big East, forget about football, and hope for occasional basketball success as a high mid-major; or
(2) Go to the ACC when they have little choice but to accept us after they are raided by the B1G again.

Even though #2 is better for basketball, I now hope we never, ever go to the ACC. It is embarrassing and humiliating imo to join a conference whose members have treated us so badly. I would rather just remember the really good days and enjoy occasionally knocking off a big from a major conference in basketball.
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It is infinitely more embarrassing to be in a conference with ECU, Tulane, SMU, San Diego State, Temple, Memphis, and the other garbage in this league. If an ACC invite comes, it is a 100% absolute positive yes. There is no question about that. Staying in the Big East will set the entire university back 20+ years, from an athletic and academic standpoint. Applications will go down, recruiting will go down, success will go down. Even a somewhat depleted ACC is better than the Big East. Heck, the MWC might be a better option than the Big East.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
It is infinitely more embarrassing to be in a conference with ECU, Tulane, SMU, San Diego State, Temple, Memphis, and the other garbage in this league. If an ACC invite comes, it is a 100% absolute positive yes. There is no question about that. Staying in the Big East will set the entire university back 20+ years, from an athletic and academic standpoint. Applications will go down, recruiting will go down, success will go down. Even a somewhat depleted ACC is better than the Big East. Heck, the MWC might be a better option than the Big East.
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I'm throwing logic out the window now. I want revenge. And I am more than willing to cut off my nose to spite my face. duck the ACC.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
It is infinitely more embarrassing to be in a conference with ECU, Tulane, SMU, San Diego State, Temple, Memphis, and the other garbage in this league. If an ACC invite comes, it is a 100% absolute positive yes. There is no question about that. Staying in the Big East will set the entire university back 20+ years, from an athletic and academic standpoint. Applications will go down, recruiting will go down, success will go down. Even a somewhat depleted ACC is better than the Big East. Heck, the MWC might be a better option than the Big East.
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This. A thousand times, this.

And I hope and pray Jim Delany will be our savior but... I just can't go around believing / waiting for it to happen. It'd be bad for my psychological well being.
 
Butch said:
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We're going somewhere. Wish people would stop crying.
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Obscurity?
 
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A recipe for getting into the B1G

1. Get into the AAU (I believe we are close and that is a priority for Herbst anyway)
2. Develop very strong relations/rivalry with RU. Play them in everything - Football, Basketball, Womens Basketball...if a strong rivalry develops then we become a natural target for expansion and hopefully they'll be in our corner. (Same with Maryland, PSU - if possible)
3. Hire a bad ass football coach who can get us 10 wins annually in the NNNBE. Petrino, Tressel - go for it. After the initial media scorn, no one will really say anything once we start winning. Look at Marv Albert, Kobe Bryant, Ray Lewis, etc. - no one brings up their past anymore.
4. Do everything humanly possible to sellout the Rent consistently and get fans to travel to away games/bowl games.
 
I went to the Rutgers Scout message board to ask about this guy and they hadn't heard of him and couldn't vouch for his credibility.

Were you ever able to track down the original post by this guy regarding Rutgers to B1G?

mavblues said:
Was the ONLY one that called RU to B1G.

Now says we're gone.

We'll see, but personally I'd give it 8 weeks or so to play out before jumping off a bridge.

JMO - I don't claim to know anything, so anyone else's opinion is just as valid as mine.
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8893 said:
I'm throwing logic out the window now. I want revenge. And I am more than willing to cut off my nose to spite my face. duck the ACC.
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What better pace to take revenge than from inside the league? Blowing up FSUs dreams every year. I bashing Duke and UNC. Just owning and dominating the league.

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If Uconn to the B1G is a done deal, then why haven't they made an announcement? Or why are some posters saying we have to wait as much as 8 weeks to find out? Louisville to the ACC happened in a day and was announced already by the conference.
 
Rico444 said:
If Uconn to the B1G is a done deal, then why haven't they made an announcement? Or why are some posters saying we have to wait as much as 8 weeks to find out? Louisville to the ACC happened in a day and was announced already by the conference.
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because its not a done deal. See wasn't that easy
 
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ACC B1G game - announcer personally gauranteed realignment is not over for b1g or acc....this isn't over. #B1GHARDER
 
It is far from a done deal. It is however inevitable.
 
Its a done deal that is not done yet but is expected to be done at some point in order for it to be done if its meant to be done. Duh.
 



I'd like to get everyone's take on why they thought before if we didn't get an invite to the ACC then we must have a invite to the B1G in our back pocket. Several referenced the silence out of Storrs as a positive, and then talked about Delany's press conference referencing Southern New England. Anything else? This video reminds me of a lot of you.
 
Try to be patient. Nobody said that they are getting in the B1G today or tomorrow. I'll own what I have said the last couple of days. The combination of UConn releasing AAU stats, hiring a new VP of Communications from a B1G school, and all of the comments that emphasize academics, research and southern New England, all point to UConn angling for a B1G invite. Could it be posturing on UConn's behalf, similar to a baseball free agent trying to strum up interest in a second team to boost his value? Sure. But if AAU membership and TV market reach are truly important to the B1G, then UConn is positioning itself quite nicely.

Of course, it wouldn't hurt if UConn can win on Saturday in front of 40,000, get to a bowl game, and sell its allotment of tickets. Maybe even start spreading some rumors about expanding the Rent to 60-65,000 seats.

I still think UConn and the B1G make sense. It's just my opinion reading between the lines that I learned on the street (great clip, by the way) and Googling AAU facts that I posted on a different thread. There seems to be a battle between the B1G and the ACC brewing and a great counterpunch by Delany would be to secure the markets that UConn and possibly UVA can bring. It makes sense.
 

USS Connecticut (SSN-22), a Seawolf-class submarine, is the fifth ship of the United States Navy to be named for the fifth state.

Like some stealth motherf*&^ers we chart our own course, f#$% the ACC, lets get Spackler on this and have some 16 paragraph treatise on how we'll overcome and shock the world.

Can I swab the decks on your boat, Oh captain my captain HFD?
 
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