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Fishy said:
The Big East would do it because it’s a low-revenue league outside of the power conference structure. Our AD isn’t even sure we’re going to be on the right side of the divide if/when it comes and this would take care of that concern.

But it makes no sense for the ACC. The Big East adds no value unless the entire conference wants to take the Cal/Stanford deal.

The fact that it hasn’t happened and isn’t happening should be some evidence of that, but we will keep creating fantastic rescue scenarios until the end of time here.
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Agreed. It's a real head scratcher why anyone would be advocating for an all cretins crew and Big East merger. Like, why? Tobacco road has less than zero incentive to bring in the Big East. Hell, they've refused for yearSSS to bring in the BEST that the Big East has to even offer (meaning UConn), so why even waste 1 kilocalorie of energy thinking about such a stupid arrangement of those shidiots bringing along less marquee names? Anyone think Puke and UNC are salivating at the notion of playing St. John's or Creighton? LMAO!
 
Fishy said:
The Big East would do it because it’s a low-revenue league outside of the power conference structure. Our AD isn’t even sure we’re going to be on the right side of the divide if/when it comes and this would take care of that concern.

But it makes no sense for the ACC. The Big East adds no value unless the entire conference wants to take the Cal/Stanford deal.

The fact that it hasn’t happened and isn’t happening should be some evidence of that, but we will keep creating fantastic rescue scenarios until the end of time here.
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That is not remotely the right premise for future realignment. Future media contracts are going to be connected in some way with subscriptions, so bundling to drive more subscriptions will be life or death for the conferences.

Look at other segments of media. Warner Brothers, Paramount, and Comcast kept trying to defend the old model long after Netflix had blown the old model up. Now Netflix, whose original content is mostly unwatchable spit, has crushed all the legacy players despite their superior libraries. Disney/Hulu, the one broadcaster that adjusted, is the only one even in the game against Netflix. Ironically, if the first three had just moved quicker, they probably would have won, because once they did move, the subscriptions quickly followed. They were just too late.

Every TV revenue split in the future is likely to be somehow performance based.

If UConn gets boxed out forever over the next 5 years, we are going to kick ourselves over the multiple ways we could have saved the program but did nothing because no one could even think about thinking outside the box. I agree with you that the "ask nicely" camp will drive strategy right to a quiet demise of the UConn athletic program.
 
KryHavok said:
Agreed. It's a real head scratcher why anyone would be advocating for an all cretins crew and Big East merger. Like, why? Tobacco road has less than zero incentive to bring in the Big East. Hell, they've refused for yearSSS to bring in the BEST that the Big East has to even offer (meaning UConn), so why even waste 1 kilocalorie of energy thinking about such a stupid arrangement of those shidiots bringing along less marquee names? Anyone think Puke and UNC are salivating at the notion of playing St. John's or Creighton? LMAO!
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If you think there is no way UConn would be added to one of the P4, then are you saying that you want to shut down the football program?
 
An example of the linear thinking that has killed UConn athletics was the decision to stay in the AAC to collect a few million more in exit fees when the smart move would have been to leave with the Big East in 2012. UConn's basketball program would never have hit the decline it did in the mid-2010's, and the football program would have been better off independent than in that Deliverance Hell Hole of a conference we were in. We would have been invited to the Big 12 as full members when Texas and Oklahoma left.

The AAC fanboys only have themselves to blame for that one.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
If you think there is no way UConn would be added to one of the P4, then are you saying that you want to shut down the football program?
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No nelson, I'm not saying that AT ALL, don't put words in my mouth (you need to act smarter than that). We're fighting what looks like a hopeless battle, but it's still a battle that should be fought. We are a basketball school that ironically needs to be "saved" by its football program. I DID say that merging the Big East with the all cretins is an utterly asinine concept. I want UConn to succeed, and as much I like the Big East and the history that it had (as well as our part in that history), we've run our course with that league as it cannot sustain us if we wish to remain nationally relevant on the athletic stage. Though I despise the all cretins crew, I would bend the knee for UConn to be in that league, but it hasn't happened and may never happen. But closing the football program, get out of here with that drivel! I would no sooner want the all cretins to win the CFP and NCAA BBall tourneys every year for the next 25 years than lose our football program.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
An example of the linear thinking that has killed UConn athletics was the decision to stay in the AAC to collect a few million more in exit fees when the smart move would have been to leave with the Big East in 2012. UConn's basketball program would never have hit the decline it did in the mid-2010's, and the football program would have been better off independent than in that Deliverance Hell Hole of a conference we were in. We would have been invited to the Big 12 as full members when Texas and Oklahoma left.

The AAC fanboys only have themselves to blame for that one.
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So you're saying the AAC fan boys were the AD and the President?
 
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KryHavok said:
No nelson, I'm not saying that AT ALL, don't put words in my mouth (you need to act smarter than that). We're fighting what looks like a hopeless battle, but it's still a battle that should be fought. We are a basketball school that ironically needs to be "saved" by its football program. I DID say that merging the Big East with the all cretins is an utterly asinine concept. I want UConn to succeed, and as much I like the Big East and the history that it had (as well as our part in that history), we've run our course with that league as it cannot sustain us if we wish to remain nationally relevant on the athletic stage. Though I despise the all cretins crew, I would bend the knee for UConn to be in that league, but it hasn't happened and may never happen. But closing the football program, get out of here with that drivel! I would no sooner want the all cretins to win the CFP and NCAA BBall tourneys every year for the next 25 years than lose our football program.
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I am not putting words in yours or anyone's mouths. I am pointing out that your "strategy" is incoherent and will never happen. It takes me barely pulling on the thread of what you are proposing to show that it won't work. There are big forces at work, and you are talking about winning a few more football games changing anyone's opinion? No one gives a fudge about the UConn football program.

Something big has to happen for UConn to get into a P4. Asking nicely is not going to work, and your claim that the football team will get us anywhere is ridiculous. If you don't think something big will happen, then why are we continuing to fund the football program?
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I am not putting words in yours or anyone's mouths. I am pointing out that your "strategy" is incoherent and will never happen. It takes me barely pulling on the thread of what you are proposing to show that it won't work. There are big forces at work, and you are talking about winning a few more football games changing anyone's opinion? No one gives a fudge about the UConn football program.

Something big has to happen for UConn to get into a P4. Asking nicely is not going to work, and your claim that the football team will get us anywhere is ridiculous. If you don't think something big will happen, then why are we continuing to fund the football program?
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Nelson, don't pull that tish with me. You did put words in my mouth, or was this response written by another Nelson:
nelsonmuntz said:
If you think there is no way UConn would be added to one of the P4, then are you saying that you want to shut down the football program?
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What the duck are you ranting on about? I never mentioned shuttering the football program. Do you make this crap up as you try to egg on others? I've often thought you were much unduly maligned but others, but some of that is of your own doing.

And what "strategy" are you referring to as incoherent? This statement made me chuckle as I didn't write anything specific, but apparently you read something that my KryHavok doppelganger must have written. Bottom line is the all cretins don't want us, the Big12 doesn't want us, there won't be any merger of the Big East and [insert conference name here]...yet your own strategy is that something big has to happen. Well no ducking tish, but your "big" hope is not a strategy either mate.

And dude, get with the program, if you don't think UConn having a successful football program is meaningful, then you're like the thirsty horse being brought to the water trough who doesn't drink. Our former AAC brethren (Cinci, Houston, and UCF) are in the P4 exactly because they won a " few more football games". Had we done that, our position now may have been vastly different. We don't need to convince the BBall crowd, we need the football crowd to say "hey, UConn doesn't suck and can actually compete".
 
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Big Ten doing college sports better than anyone. They just win more | Opinion

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It’s the Big Ten’s World. The Rest of College Sports Is Living in It.

Michigan’s run through the men’s NCAA tournament cements the fact that the Big Ten is the dominant league in all of college sports.
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Michigan Secures Big Ten Sweep of Basketball Titles, Payouts

Michigan won the national title, and the Big Ten earned $60 million from NCAA unit payouts.
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www.nytimes.com

Michigan’s national title is the latest chapter in a year of Big Ten dominance

From Indiana football to Northwestern field hockey, the Big Ten has continued to win national championships across multiple sports.
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Rufus said:
www.usatoday.com

Big Ten doing college sports better than anyone. They just win more | Opinion

Big Ten is first conference since 2007 to have national champions in football and men's and women's basketball in the same year.
www.usatoday.com www.usatoday.com

www.si.com

It’s the Big Ten’s World. The Rest of College Sports Is Living in It.

Michigan’s run through the men’s NCAA tournament cements the fact that the Big Ten is the dominant league in all of college sports.
www.si.com www.si.com


www.sportico.com

Michigan Secures Big Ten Sweep of Basketball Titles, Payouts

Michigan won the national title, and the Big Ten earned $60 million from NCAA unit payouts.
www.sportico.com www.sportico.com


www.nytimes.com

Michigan’s national title is the latest chapter in a year of Big Ten dominance

From Indiana football to Northwestern field hockey, the Big Ten has continued to win national championships across multiple sports.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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News flash - conference with all the money finally wins something 😂 well done👌

Stephen Colbert Slow Clap GIF
 
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Rufus said:
www.usatoday.com

Big Ten doing college sports better than anyone. They just win more | Opinion

Big Ten is first conference since 2007 to have national champions in football and men's and women's basketball in the same year.
www.usatoday.com www.usatoday.com

www.si.com

It’s the Big Ten’s World. The Rest of College Sports Is Living in It.

Michigan’s run through the men’s NCAA tournament cements the fact that the Big Ten is the dominant league in all of college sports.
www.si.com www.si.com


www.sportico.com

Michigan Secures Big Ten Sweep of Basketball Titles, Payouts

Michigan won the national title, and the Big Ten earned $60 million from NCAA unit payouts.
www.sportico.com www.sportico.com


www.nytimes.com

Michigan’s national title is the latest chapter in a year of Big Ten dominance

From Indiana football to Northwestern field hockey, the Big Ten has continued to win national championships across multiple sports.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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"Our quarter century basketball championship drought is over. We are the dominant basketball league."

I don't know, maybe you want to string a few together before you take that victory lap?
 
KryHavok said:
And dude, get with the program, if you don't think UConn having a successful football program is meaningful, then you're like the thirsty horse being brought to the water trough who doesn't drink. Our former AAC brethren (Cinci, Houston, and UCF) are in the P4 exactly because they won a " few more football games". Had we done that, our position now may have been vastly different. We don't need to convince the BBall crowd, we need the football crowd to say "hey, UConn doesn't suck and can actually compete".
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You are mostly wrong. Cincinnati, Houston and UCF are in the P4 because the Big 12 had a TV contract, was scrambling to backfill members after Oklahoma and Texas announced they were leaving, and picked three teams from big cities with big fan bases. UConn was not one of those three because we had let our football and basketball programs decline so much after years in the AAC that we were not attractive as an addition, although it might not have mattered. Geography and market appeal could have been the driving factors for Houston, Cincinnati and UCF.

But you are making my point. The Big 12 faced an existential crisis and needed to move quick, which created that opportunity. Unfortunately for UConn, we were passed then, and again in the subsequent collapse of the Pac 12, and a bunch of pretty bad football programs were picked up along the way. Colorado sucks at every sport, and it calls its own shots in realignment.

Winning a few more football games is not going to make a difference, because if it was, UConn would have gotten a call already. Something big needs to happen.
 
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Rufus said:
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I'll see your little sign and raise you a...skyscraper. See, the Big East does things REALLY FRIGGING BIG in NYC, not just pay for "look at me, i cans do thingz two" signs in a market that care jack tish about teams from the midwest.
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nelsonmuntz said:
Let's hear the case for returning to the AAC.
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Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, mentioned ANYTHING about the AAC. This fantasy argument you're trying to pick lives rent free in your head. Get a grip, take some lithium, have some dip, and breathe Nelson. Sometimes it's best not to listen to the other voices in our heads, "eat the chocolate cake, have another beer, stab the heart...don't stab the heart".
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
The haters complain non-stop about the Big East. I am trying to figure out where you think we will go.

Or do you just like to complain?
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It's okay Nelson, you can let the haters rant all they want. I see the Big East as a band-aid, nothing more than a triage stop on the road of conference alignment. As to figuring out where we go...I follow the Buckaroo Banzai mantra of "no matter where you, there you are".

And for complaining, isn't that what you do when you mention what posters say on the BBall board regarding alignment? Most of us here are UConn fans and want to see the school thrive, though we have different visions of how that may manifest. My original post that you commented earlier on was originally intended to offset the big ten cheerleader pounding his chest about electronic signage in NYC...this is merely me, as a UConn fan and alumnus on a UConn board responding back with a "don't piss on our home" statement (translation: that's not complaining, that's defending our turf, savvy?)
 
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