Azzis 3s

[Vowelguy]

Azzi has had 5 games where her 3 % was less than 30%. Two early in the season …. And the last 3 straight.

5-23 (22%) in that span. Eek.😱

Hopefully just a mid season ebb/flow.

 

[BBallF]

Azzi has had 5 games where her 3 % was less than 30%. Two early in the season …. And the last 3 straight.

5-23 (22%) in that span. Eek.😱

Hopefully just a mid season ebb/flow.

It has to do with her release I think. The softer ones seem always to go in. The harder ones have a tendency to rim out. I bet she has had 8 rim outs in the last 2 games alone.

 

[hoy-ah!]

She needs to put more air under the ball, not enough arc. Especially on the pull ups. Per comment above by BballF, maybe Azzi is releasing her shot at the end of the stroke from her hand, making the shot flatter instead of at mid-point. I was switching between UConn's and the OU-SCar game. Aaliyah Chavez has a smooth and arcing shot

 

[Zarathustra]

She needs to put more air under the ball, not enough arc. Especially on the pull ups. Per comment above by BballF, maybe Azzi is releasing her shot at the end of the stroke from her hand, making the shot flatter instead of at mid-point. I was switching between UConn's and the OU-SCar game. Aaliyah Chavez has a smooth and arcing shot

FYI: Aaliyah Chavez crushed Gamecocks in overtime with 15 points
in 5 minutes. Oklahoma winning (coming from behind) 94 - 82 Chavez: the leading candidate for National Freshman of the Year award???

 

[Topdawg]

With Azzi, her shooting game is always poetry in motion. Sometimes, the poetry does not rhyme!

Her defensive game and the other ways she is impacting the game’s outcome is still something to behold.

 

[oldude]

I have watched KML & KLS both have lousy shooting games as well as games where they miss 5 or so 3’s to start the game and then catch fire making everything. A good shooter has no conscience.

In the past if Azzi missed a bunch of shots, she might have stopped taking them. I was pleased to see that Azzi just kept on shooting last night, ultimately knocking down 3 shots from the arc.

Aaliyah Chavez game against SC was mentioned. In the first half she shot 1/7. In the 2nd half she was a little better around 50%. In OT she was absolutely unconscious, going off for 15 pts, mostly from 3 as the Sooners upset the Gamecocks.

 

[oldude]

She needs to put more air under the ball, not enough arc. Especially on the pull ups. Per comment above by BballF, maybe Azzi is releasing her shot at the end of the stroke from her hand, making the shot flatter instead of at mid-point. I was switching between UConn's and the OU-SCar game. Aaliyah Chavez has a smooth and arcing shot

That’s a lot harder than it sounds for someone who’s learned to shoot the basketball one way over 15 or so years. Asking Azzi to change her shooting stroke at this point in her career is kind of like asking Rembrandt to paint with his other hand.

 

[ctfjr]

I have watched KML & KLS both have lousy shooting games as well as games where they miss 5 or so 3’s to start the game and then catch fire making everything. A good shooter has no conscience.

In the past if Azzi missed a bunch of shots, she might have stopped taking them. I was pleased to see that Azzi just kept on shooting last night, ultimately knocking down 3 shots from the arc.

Aaliyah Chavez game against SC was mentioned. In the first half she shot 1/7. In the 2nd half she was a little better around 50%. In OT she was absolutely unconscious, going off for 15 pts, mostly from 3 as the Sooners upset the Gamecocks.

I agree, the old saw, "shooters gotta shoot", is true!

 

[HuskyNan]

That’s a lot harder than it sounds for someone who’s learned to shoot the basketball one way over 15 or so years. Asking Azzi to change her shooting stroke at this point in her career is kind of like asking Rembrandt to paint with his other hand.

Why would anyone want to change the prettiest shot in all of college basketball?

 

[PAHuskeyFan]

Just a momentary lapse in her deadly 3 pointers... She WILL be back!!!! especially when they are most needed.

Fudd around and find out.

 

[Vowelguy]

I have watched KML & KLS both have lousy shooting games as well as games where they miss 5 or so 3’s to start the game and then catch fire making everything. A good shooter has no conscience.

In the past if Azzi missed a bunch of shots, she might have stopped taking them. I was pleased to see that Azzi just kept on shooting last night, ultimately knocking down 3 shots from the arc.

Slightly concerning thing being that it's not 1 game -- it's 3 in a row.

 

[oldude]

Slightly concerning thing being that it's not 1 game -- it's 3 in a row.

I am not concerned and, if you listened to Geno’s postgame presser last night, he’s not concerned either.

This takes me back to 2016. Tuck was a solid 3-pt shooter. But she was mired in a lengthy shooting slump from the arc that prompted Geno to tell her, “If you’re going to take ‘em, you better start making ‘em.” Once UConn made it to the Big Dance, Tuck began making her 3’s again and the Huskies rolled to national championship #11.

 

[hoy-ah!]

That’s a lot harder than it sounds for someone who’s learned to shoot the basketball one way over 15 or so years. Asking Azzi to change her shooting stroke at this point in her career is kind of like asking Rembrandt to paint with his other hand.

A lot of posts here about my initial comment on Aziz's shot. It's not about "changing" her shot, but adjusting her shot to put a little more arc/air under it. Players refine their skills constantly. Especially within games. Why is this happening? What can I do to affect a better outcome?

It's known that a higher arc increases the probability of a make. (Maybe not a Robert Parrish/Chief arc though.)

 

[HuskieDawg]

The last thing any of us should be worrying about is Azzi’s shot. Some of these misses have been halfway down and popped out. Every shooter goes through stretches where they just miss, are just off, or just don’t feel good. No different than a hitter slumping at the plate and having to find “the feel” again.

I’d be more concerned if she became hesitant to let them fly, which she hasn’t.

 

[oldude]

A lot of posts here about my initial comment on Aziz's shot. It's not about "changing" her shot, but adjusting her shot to put a little more arc/air under it. Players refine their skills constantly. Especially within games. Why is this happening? What can I do to affect a better outcome?

It's known that a higher arc increases the probability of a make. (Maybe not a Robert Parrish/Chief arc though.)

Adjusting the arc on her shot is changing her shot. It requires a slightly different hand and wrist position, different ball rotation and a stronger release. Again, what you’re suggesting is making significant changes to one of the very best shooting strokes in WBB. I will guarantee you that there is not a basketball coach in the country that would support Azzi changing her shot at this point in her career.

 

[Topdawg]

Team has to figure out through the rest of the Big East season how to play relentless defense AND make the 3’s. We need to be patient!!

 

[hoy-ah!]

Adjusting the arc on her shot is changing her shot. It requires a slightly different hand and wrist position, different ball rotation and a stronger release. Again, what you’re suggesting is making significant changes to one of the very best shooting strokes in WBB. I will guarantee you that there is not a basketball coach in the country that would support Azzi changing her shot at this point in her career.

I will disagree. To me, it's just the release point of when the ball comes off her hand/wrist/arm to get the arc. Her motion and technique is fluid and consistent. It's also more likely that in the heat of games, you don't shoot like you do in practice...but, you ask yourself "Why am I missing, and adjust?"

On Topdawg's post - totally agree. The team should be clinical at this stage, especially the starters and early reserves. Going from relentless full court press press to man defense to controlled offense. Finally, I don't understand why they don't utilize Boeheim's offense against the 2-3 zone with movement through the zone. Keeps everyone in motion.

 

[Vowelguy]

It's also more likely that in the heat of games, you don't shoot like you do in practice...

I think one of the points of practices and training for elite players is so that the shooting motion is exactly the same in every situation. Practice, games, high-intensity moments.
That's what separate the greats.

 

[oldude]

I will disagree. To me, it's just the release point of when the ball comes off her hand/wrist/arm to get the arc. Her motion and technique is fluid and consistent. It's also more likely that in the heat of games, you don't shoot like you do in practice...but, you ask yourself "Why am I missing, and adjust?"

On Topdawg's post - totally agree. The team should be clinical at this stage, especially the starters and early reserves. Going from relentless full court press press to man defense to controlled offense. Finally, I don't understand why they don't utilize Boeheim's offense against the 2-3 zone with movement through the zone. Keeps everyone in motion.

Let me try to explain this one more way by getting into the tall grass. For a great shooter, most of the shooting process is hard-wired from thousands and thousands of repetitions. Essentially, they don’t think about it. For a shooter like Azzi, the process is 1) catch the ball in the pocket if it’s passed to her. 2) square up. 3) elevate. 4) release. All those elements are hard-wired.

The only variable is calculating the target, depending on how far away she is: the corner, top of the key, 5’ beyond the arc, etc. The target for any good shooter is the front of the rim. Azzi feeds that info into her hard-wired brain and in a couple milliseconds, her brain feeds the coordinates to her body. Azzi has a beautiful, quick release, so it doesn’t take very long for her to pull the trigger.

Now let’s say Azzi does want to make a change in her release (god forbid). Does she adjust her release angle by 5%, 10%, something else? Now she’s got to think about her mechanics. Her release slows down and I would also venture to guess that while she’s trying to figure things out we would see bricks, airballs and all manner of ugly shots.

No shooter worth their salt ever changes their mechanics mid-season. If a change is warranted it’s something you do in the offseason, with a 100,000+ practice shots, until your new mechanics become hard-wired into your brain.

 

[Dogstar]

A lot of posts here about my initial comment on Aziz's shot. It's not about "changing" her shot, but adjusting her shot to put a little more arc/air under it. Players refine their skills constantly. Especially within games. Why is this happening? What can I do to affect a better outcome?

It's known that a higher arc increases the probability of a make. (Maybe not a Robert Parrish/Chief arc though.)

Personally I believe it's in the spot where all jump shots begin.... the legs. She's been playing exceptional D this year and doing a lot of moving around on offense could be leg fatigue. Don't go messing around with her release bcus fundamentally it's the best I've seen, not just college basketball but in all of basketball. Curiosity makes me ask...
doesn't adjust and change mean the same thing?

 

[WBBZen]

Better a slump now than in March. I'm not really worried, shooters shoot and she will be back. Watch, she will drop 5 tomorrow or something. Talking about how she needs to change her shot is a little ridiculous at this point, as well.

 

[Kat]

Not gonna worry about Azzi's shooting. As Nika once said, "If she misses 100 shots that game, I would still get her the last shot for the win."

 

[huskeynut]

A lot of posts here about my initial comment on Aziz's shot. It's not about "changing" her shot, but adjusting her shot to put a little more arc/air under it. Players refine their skills constantly. Especially within games. Why is this happening? What can I do to affect a better outcome?

It's known that a higher arc increases the probability of a make. (Maybe not a Robert Parrish/Chief arc though.)

Your suggestion is changing her shot.

Azzi will be fine.

 

[PAHuskeyFan]

Let me try to explain this one more way by getting into the tall grass. For a great shooter, most of the shooting process is hard-wired from thousands and thousands of repetitions. Essentially, they don’t think about it. For a shooter like Azzi, the process is 1) catch the ball in the pocket if it’s passed to her. 2) square up. 3) elevate. 4) release. All those elements are hard-wired.

The only variable is calculating the target, depending on how far away she is: the corner, top of the key, 5’ beyond the arc, etc. The target for any good shooter is the front of the rim. Azzi feeds that info into her hard-wired brain and in a couple milliseconds, her brain feeds the coordinates to her body. Azzi has a beautiful, quick release, so it doesn’t take very long for her to pull the trigger.

Now let’s say Azzi does want to make a change in her release (god forbid). Does she adjust her release angle by 5%, 10%, something else? Now she’s got to think about her mechanics. Her release slows down and I would also venture to guess that while she’s trying to figure things out we would see bricks, airballs and all manner of ugly shots.

No shooter worth their salt ever changes their mechanics mid-season. If a change is warranted it’s something you do in the offseason, with a 100,000+ practice shots, until your new mechanics become hard-wired into your brain.

Nice description...I took the short version,...as many of us know, even Joe DiMaggio went into a slump every now and then.

 

[oldude]

Nice description...I took the short version,...as many of us know, even Joe DiMaggio went into a slump every now and then.

Yes, you are correct. After hitting in 56 straight games, DiMaggio failed to get a hit in game #57, after which he got a hit in the next 16 straight games. So I guess Joltin Joe had a 1 game slump while hitting in 72 out of 73 straight games.......😎