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Azzi without crutches?

hoopsnloops32 said:
Yes but he said it was just a precaution, not that she was unable to bear weight in her knee and said specifically she didn’t need the brace..
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He most definitely said no weight bearing for two weeks. The brace is a precaution. Yep, he did.
 
DrummerDee said:
He most definitely said no weight bearing for two weeks. The brace is a precaution. Yep, he did.
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Yes but not because she can’t physically put pressure on her knee. It’s a precaution to help expedite healing.
 
ed4ourgirls said:
Only if we lose. If we win I think it guarantees us a 1 seed even if we should slip up
against Nova in Philly or the BE tournament.
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But we don’t have a chance of winning with 5 players, and a loss won’t hurt us, ergo meaningless game.
 
I think Azzi will have a similar time table to Paige last year. Probably recieve around 10ish minutes 2 games before the Big East Tournament Starts. Probably the same for Caroline. Expect them both back no later than a month.
 
uconnfan68 said:
Why? You don’t think we’ll get a NCAA bid? I think we’re in even if we lose a few more games.
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No I don’t think it would make any sense to bring Azzi back for just the tournament. She won’t build any confidence in her knee or any team chemistry. It would tank UConn’s chances for a tournament run and likely make playing more dangerous for her. It would be dumb and not worth the risk.
 
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hoopsnloops32 said:
The South Carolina game is meaningless.
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With all due respect, one should have stated meaningless to yourself? Yes, no?
To most who ever played, coached or just a fan of a team, every game is important. A sold out game on national television with seeding for the tournament consideration. This game is as any far from meaningless.
 
hoopsnloops32 said:
The South Carolina game is meaningless.
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Win, lose or draw, I believe every game is meaningful to the team (any team). And that’s because there’s always something to be learnt from each game. Yes, UCONN won convincingly at TENN, but SCar is the number 1 team in the country, so let’s see how we measure up against such a quality opponent.
 
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JordyG said:
That'll be the two week notice. Structurally there is nothing wrong with Azzi's knee, which the report clearly stated. This was all precautionary. It actually appeared to be more a bone bruise than any ligament damage.
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I've never seen anyone say this, but I thought the same thing.
 
HuskyNan said:
Azzi is standing on her feet here. You can clearly see the outline of a brace.

It’s great to see Jana getting into the game
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while I see players clapping, smiling, cheering, do you notice a certain coach who seems just a bit more emotional. That energy is what made her such a great competitor, and a great rebounder for an "undersized" forward. Actually she was short for a forward, not undersized. But like Morrow at DePaul, she willed herself to those loose balls, sometimes with a shove or two, but what's wrong with enthusiasm when it is coming from one of our players.
 
hoopsnloops32 said:
No I don’t think it would make any sense to bring Azzi back for just the tournament. She won’t build any confidence in her knee or any team chemistry. It would tank UConn’s chances for a tournament run and likely make playing more dangerous for her. It would be dumb and not worth the risk.
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why do you say people who have a different opinion are dumb? I ignored it when you said it about me, but now you have said it again. I would suggest "dumb" is not a good to use towards a fellow Husky fan. You can disagree and explain, as you do here saying it upsets chemistry. But Geno brought Azzi back for a few minutes off the bench when he thought he could, and I believe if she is ready he will bring her back again, off the bench for a few minutes at first late in the regular season, then off the bench for a few minutes more in the BE tourney, and finally I see her as coming off the bench to give Nika, Lou and maybe Aubrey some rest or spell them if they get some fouls. Might get her up to 15 minutes a game for the final four. I think we are stronger with her than without her and we likely need her. You think some of us are dumb for saying that. I guess we can just wait and see how it plays out. If she is ready, will Geno bring her back this season. If he does you can say you think Geno is dumb for doing that. Good luck to you in life. Good saying: "Be kind whenever possible; it is always possible."
 
Ralph said:
why do you say people who have a different opinion are dumb? I ignored it when you said it about me, but now you have said it again. I would suggest "dumb" is not a good to use towards a fellow Husky fan. You can disagree and explain, as you do here saying it upsets chemistry. But Geno brought Azzi back for a few minutes off the bench when he thought he could, and I believe if she is ready he will bring her back again, off the bench for a few minutes at first late in the regular season, then off the bench for a few minutes more in the BE tourney, and finally I see her as coming off the bench to give Nika, Lou and maybe Aubrey some rest or spell them if they get some fouls. Might get her up to 15 minutes a game for the final four. I think we are stronger with her than without her and we likely need her. You think some of us are dumb for saying that. I guess we can just wait and see how it plays out. If she is ready, will Geno bring her back this season. If he does you can say you think Geno is dumb for doing that. Good luck to you in life. Good saying: "Be kind whenever possible; it is always possible."
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Thank you. Civility and courtesy is always appreciated
 
The BE tournament is, I believe, a 10-team scramble, starting Friday, March 3. UConn will grab one of the two bye positions the first day, which means they then have to play on three consecutive days (March 4-6) if they want to make the finals. I think that means their relatively easy opening game on the 4th will be against DePaul, Providence or Georgetown, who will have all played the day before. Three days in a row will be especially challenging for our guys. I would think that if Azzi is going to appear in the tournament at all, we'll see her in the semi-finals on March 5, complementing a full roster of 10. (Unless, of course, she's back before then.)
 
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JordyG said:
That'll be the two week notice. Structurally there is nothing wrong with Azzi's knee, which the report clearly stated. This was all precautionary. It actually appeared to be more a bone bruise than any ligament damage.
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What report are you referring to? I am under the impression that actual medical information is no longer being made public, based on what the AD stated a couple of weeks ago.
I agree with your assessment but only because during the game that she reinjured her name, it appears that when she returned to the bench, she was manipulating her knee to show Paige what was going on.
 
OldSchooler said:
The BE tournament is, I believe, a 10-team scramble, starting Friday, March 3. UConn will grab one of the two bye positions the first day, which means they then have to play on three consecutive days (March 4-6) if they want to make the finals. I think that means their relatively easy opening game on the 4th will be against DePaul, Providence or Georgetown, who will have all played the day before.
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Five teams get first round byes. The other six play the first day.

UConn will play the winner of 8 vs 9. Right now that would be Georgetown or Providence.
 
Centerstream said:
What report are you referring to? I am under the impression that actual medical information is no longer being made public, based on what the AD stated a couple of weeks ago.
I agree with your assessment but only because during the game that she reinjured her name, it appears that when she returned to the bench, she was manipulating her knee to show Paige what was going on.
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I have not seen a report either.

The contact that she had in the Georgetown game appeared to be incidental contact of leg to leg between two players that, when it happened, caused a great degree of flexion and sufficient pain that made her stop, rub her knee and walk gingerly on that leg. Shortly afterwords there was concern enough which led to the precautions of non play and two weeks of non weight bearing on that leg. That can be construed as precautionary but it can also mean that there is a weakness of the support ligaments attached to the knee that do not provide stability and bracing when the knee receives contact. The mobility she demonstrated on the bench would demonstrate that a tear in the ligaments was unlikely which reduces the known outcome that she was no longer able to play this season but in of itself would not be definitive. An MRI would be needed to confirm it and we have no information on that.

An argument can be made that the type of situation Azzi is facing in her knee does not fall into a category that the medical field has a definitive modality of treatment other than rest. And the outcomes such as length of time needed or whether there can be a prediction of a complete vs partial restoration of health long term could be unknown.
 
fleudslipcon said:
I have not seen a report either.

The contact that she had in the Georgetown game appeared to be incidental contact of leg to leg between two players that, when it happened, caused a great degree of flexion and sufficient pain that made her stop, rub her knee and walk gingerly on that leg. Shortly afterwords there was concern enough which led to the precautions of non play and two weeks of non weight bearing on that leg. That can be construed as precautionary but it can also mean that there is a weakness of the support ligaments attached to the knee that do not provide stability and bracing when the knee receives contact. The mobility she demonstrated on the bench would demonstrate that a tear in the ligaments was unlikely which reduces the known outcome that she was no longer able to play this season but in of itself would not be definitive. An MRI would be needed to confirm it and we have no information on that.

An argument can be made that the type of situation Azzi is facing in her knee does not fall into a category that the medical field has a definitive modality of treatment other than rest. And the outcomes such as length of time needed or whether there can be a prediction of a complete vs partial restoration of health long term could be unknown.
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Geno has already said they did an MRI and there was no tearing or damage to the ligaments. He also said the the non-weight bearing was precautionary and to help expedite healing, not that her knee wasn't stable enough to support her.

Your second paragraph is correct though - rest is the treatment for her injury and they don't know how long exactly it will take. The hope seems to be that the two weeks of immobilization will have helped significantly so she can at least start normal rehab soon. We will see though.
 
Centerstream said:
What report are you referring to? I am under the impression that actual medical information is no longer being made public, based on what the AD stated a couple of weeks ago.
I agree with your assessment but only because during the game that she reinjured her name, it appears that when she returned to the bench, she was manipulating her knee to show Paige what was going on.
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I made the assumption believing that if there was new structural damage Azzi would have had a procedure done, and would be gone for the season. Instead they took their time to carefully assess her knee, then said they'd immobilize it and reassess after two weeks. Yes, they're all assumptions on my part, and perhaps I'm wrong. But as someone that has knee problems I have a small idea how clinicians think.
 
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I guess for clarity on the confusion of the title- Azzi is/was still on crutches at the game yesterday. The various sound bites seem to be that the crutches allow Azzi to put more weight on the leg but she is still using them.

It sounds like Caroline is closer to a return than Azzi is. Patience, they say, is a virture and rarely exhibited on this platform. :rolleyes:
 
JordyG said:
I made the assumption believing that if there was new structural damage Azzi would have had a procedure done, and would be gone for the season. Instead they took their time to carefully assess her knee, then said they'd immobilize it and reassess after two weeks. Yes, they're all assumptions on my part, and perhaps I'm wrong. But as someone that has knee problems I have a small idea how clinicians think.
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Your assumption is correct and already confirmed by Geno that there was no new structural damage to Azzi's knee. The only thing I was disagreeing with is that the assumption the two week timeline started when the media became aware. The media only became aware because there was pre-game press on the Friday before one of our games, Butler I think. The actual clock on two week rest probably happened the day she was assessed, Monday of two weeks ago- meaning the time for reassessment was yesterday or today.
 
DefenseBB said:
I guess for clarity on the confusion of the title- Azzi is/was still on crutches at the game yesterday. The various sound bites seem to be that the crutches allow Azzi to put more weight on the leg but she is still using them.

It sounds like Caroline is closer to a return than Azzi is. Patience, they say, is a virture and rarely exhibited on this platform. :rolleyes:
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I'm curious as to why you think this? Geno was asked specifically about Caroline in the press conference. I think they will likely return the same game or one game apart. I don't think there is much reason to think one is a head of the other at this point.
 
MSGRET said:
@Conndog if you look closely, just behind the chairs by Ice's feet you will see some of the husky arm pads that Azzi has for her crutches on the floor.
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That’s okay, my point is that she is standing and even moving without supporting herself on the crutches. That is a good sign.
 
Ralph said:
why do you say people who have a different opinion are dumb? I ignored it when you said it about me, but now you have said it again. I would suggest "dumb" is not a good to use towards a fellow Husky fan. You can disagree and explain, as you do here saying it upsets chemistry. But Geno brought Azzi back for a few minutes off the bench when he thought he could, and I believe if she is ready he will bring her back again, off the bench for a few minutes at first late in the regular season, then off the bench for a few minutes more in the BE tourney, and finally I see her as coming off the bench to give Nika, Lou and maybe Aubrey some rest or spell them if they get some fouls. Might get her up to 15 minutes a game for the final four. I think we are stronger with her than without her and we likely need her. You think some of us are dumb for saying that. I guess we can just wait and see how it plays out. If she is ready, will Geno bring her back this season. If he does you can say you think Geno is dumb for doing that. Good luck to you in life. Good saying: "Be kind whenever possible; it is always possible."
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I agree with @Ralph ... IF Azzi had not been "bumped" in that game a few weeks back, she would be playing and contributing, either off the bench or as a starter (Geno's call!!!). BUT, more importantly, IF Azzi if is Healthy enough to play in the next week(s), it makes perfect sense to have her in the "bag of tricks" at Geno's disposal. After the Villanova game on Sunday, there was a significant uproar from some BYers in a thread about playing the bench. IF Azzi is healthy enough to play, she provides the very best possible sub for Nika, Lou and perhaps Aubrey for a handful of minutes of rest. (Hard to beat the #1 recruit from a few years ago as a sub...) In Sunday's game, Aubrey had 4 fouls, Lou had 3 (if I recall correctly)...and Nika, Lou and Aubrey all showed signs of fatigue. There was no legitimate relief in the form of a Guard to send in. Ayanna will be a good one with time, but she is NOT a Guard. I like Ines, but she is very young and is not ready for a game of that magnitude.

Maybe I'll be called "dumb" for these thoughts, but as has been stated multiple times, this is a Discussion Board... where people express their opinions... That's what I am doing... as well as @Ralph ...

Sorry...Not Sorry.
 
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