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Pure speculation on my part here, but it seems like UConn recruiting is rather cyclical. Geno brings in one or two really good classes and is pretty successful at keeping them together. In the next two or three years of the cycle, his follow on recruit classes become rather thin (see the classes immediately following the Stewie, Mo, Morgan and the KLS Pheesa classes). I suspect this is because most elite recruits (with the exception of recruits who have the confidence to challenge established players for playing time) realize that they will have to "wait their turn" at UConn. They may decide to go to one of the other power programs that have more open rosters and more chances for court time as underclasswomen.

It will be interesting if that same sort of thing happens at South Carolina after Dawn's two recent monster classes. With Dawn being the USA Olympic team coach and SC's recent success, they could be considered the "shiny new thing" in WCBB so she might be able to sustain her cycle of top classes a bit longer than UConn. Geno is certainly a draw for recruits, but we unfortunately have to accept the fact that he is approaching retirement. He certainly has put together a good foundation for the next few years though.
 

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There is one crazy record that is well within reach, and that's the consecutive conference wins record. Someone here will know the exact number, but I thought it was a Texas team winning something like 128 or 130 Big XXII games in a row. UConn's gotta be getting pretty close to that after not losing any games in the AAC.
I believe it was 143 in a row and UConn needs to win it's first 5 Conference games to tie it and 6 to pass it if my numbers are correct.
 

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Will she have to call Kathy Ferrier and ask permission?

I'm not sure, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's tradition to call the last player that wore the number you want to wear. Yes, Boykin did wear #35, but she never suited up or appeared in a game before she transferred.
So that would make Marci Czel (1998-2001) the last player to wear that number.
 
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Let's see how this plays out. Always glad to see more regular TV but these other channels are famous for creating some streaming service and forcing viewers to watch there instead of the regular broadcast channels. Another thing they are famous for (Like ESPN) is packing in so many wall to wall games that we often miss a portion of out games because another event hasn't finished yet. That was NOT a problem on SNY.

And WELCOME AZZI !!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Agreed. You can put that record on the top shelf with the other "immortal" sports records that will NEVER be broken, right between Joe DiMaggio's MLB record of 56 consecutive games hitting streak, and Johnny Vander Meer's record of pitching 2 no-hitters in consecutive starts. :cool:
Ah, I also like the 10,000+ days since back-to-back UCONN losses. Let's see someone top that. BTW, that streak is still counting.
 
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I figured Fudd was bound for UConn so kudos to her and the program. I know she's garnered a ton of attention for her play and if she's a good as advertised then UConn will have even more separation from the rest of the pack. SC isn't far behind but Fudd will give Geno the top class again.
 
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So what do we think is impacting this recruiting surge the most?

Geno having more time without National team commitments?

New conference?

Just natural ebb and flow of recruiting?

I think Geno has decided he wants to go out with a bang and figures he’s got one more magical run left in him! He also wants (I think) to leave the program with a full pantry and with a lot of recruiting interest for the next staff! However, I don’t want to think about that. What an incredible array of talent! As Humpty would say, “There’s glory for you!”
 
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I'm not sure, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's tradition to call the last player that wore the number you want to wear. Yes, Boykin did wear #35, but she never suited up or appeared in a game before she transferred.
So that would make Marci Czel (1998-2001) the last player to wear that number.
Unfortunately Marci Czel wore #13.
 

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It will be interesting if that same sort of thing happens at South Carolina after Dawn's two recent monster classes. With Dawn being the USA Olympic team coach and SC's recent success, they could be considered the "shiny new thing" in WCBB so she might be able to sustain her cycle of top classes a bit longer than UConn. Geno is certainly a draw for recruits, but we unfortunately have to accept the fact that he is approaching retirement. He certainly has put together a good foundation for the next few years though.

UConn will always fare well with the top recruits as long as Geno is there. I believe 7 of the last 10 top ranked players committed to the Huskies out of high school. We tend to bring in 3-4 players a class. We've had big classes that weren't necessarily highly ranked (top 5). In cases where we've had smaller classes, say 1 or 2, they've always followed a very highly ranked class.

2014 - 5 (Wilson, White, Cuevas, Duckett, Cliney)
2015 - 1 (Colley)
2016 - 4 (Harris, Herbert-Harrigan, Bradshaw, Patrick)
2017 - 4 (Grissett, Williams, Jackson, Troup)
2018 - 3 (Henderson, Saxton, Wesolek)
2019 - 5 (Boston, Cooke, Beal, Amihere, Thompson)
2020 - 1 (Russell)
2021 - 4 (Johnson, Rivers, Feagin, Hall)
2022 - ?

I think our 2022 class will be 2 or 3 players and they'll be highly ranked.. but it won't be a huge monster class like 2014, 2019 or 2021.

That said, today is a big day for UConn. Although it's late in his career and he has nothing left to prove, Geno has clearly shown that he still has fire and can bring in the players he needs to win. Sets up for some big battles between the top programs in the years ahead.. and not just UConn and South Carolina, with recruiting leveling out among the top 5-6 programs, there will now likely be several programs with a realistic shot at the title for the next few years.
 

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Pure speculation on my part here, but it seems like UConn recruiting is rather cyclical. Geno brings in one or two really good classes and is pretty successful at keeping them together. In the next two or three years of the cycle, his follow on recruit classes become rather thin (see the classes immediately following the Stewie, Mo, Morgan and the KLS Pheesa classes). I suspect this is because most elite recruits (with the exception of recruits who have the confidence to challenge established players for playing time) realize that they will have to "wait their turn" at UConn. They may decide to go to one of the other power programs that have more open rosters and more chances for court time as underclasswomen.

It will be interesting if that same sort of thing happens at South Carolina after Dawn's two recent monster classes. With Dawn being the USA Olympic team coach and SC's recent success, they could be considered the "shiny new thing" in WCBB so she might be able to sustain her cycle of top classes a bit longer than UConn. Geno is certainly a draw for recruits, but we unfortunately have to accept the fact that he is approaching retirement. He certainly has put together a good foundation for the next few years though.

Geno's best teams usually haven't been overflowing with talent, but they have the right mix of players who fit into their spots without a lot of really talented players riding the pine. His smaller roster approach has backfired in recent years due to several transfers and early WNBA entrants, so I think he's now opting for larger classes and larger rosters to combat the transfer movement. A lot of other coaches are utilizing transfers and grad transfers, but Geno hasn't had great success with that. Next year if no one transfers, UCONN will have 14 scholarship players on the roster which is more than any other season in at least 10-15 years...maybe his largest roster ever.

UCONN always seems to have a death grip on #1 recruits too. They've now landed 5 of the last 7 top recruits, and UCONN is almost always a finalist for #1 recruits. Most of the others they've missed on (Jones, Cox, Wilson, Ogwumike) all had UCONN as finalists, and all 4 chose their school to play close to home or be with family. Going further back, only 3 top recruits over the last 20 years haven't had UCONN as a finalist (Mercedes Russell, Brittney Griner and Candace Parker.) 85% have had UCONN as a finalist and 60% have ended up picking UCONN if you include Hunter transferring in. Any fear of Geno retiring or recruitment declining in coming years seems unfounded to me considering the historical precedent, and the fact that UCONN has #1 kids on board from 2020 and 2021, and already has the #2 player from 2022 all committed or enrolled.

More often than not, UCONN lands the 1-2 top 5 kids (usually the #1 recruit) and a couple of kids in the 11-50 range. Some years just 1-2 kids, but a common pattern is that the top recruits typically play more of a supportive role as freshmen, but still log big minutes or make an impact. As sophomores they morph into primary starters and become huge contributors.

The less heralded kids (usually ranked 11-50 in recruiting rankings) don't often get a lot of playing time early and either end up transferring or paying their dues for another season in a smaller role before taking on a larger role as juniors/seniors. Occasionally you'll get unexpected impact players from a less touted player like a Kia Nurse or Anna Makurat, but often times they primarily ride the bench or maybe get blowout minutes as freshmen.

By the time everything shakes out, he usually has 3-4 starters who were ranked as top 5 recruits (a couple of whom are upperclassmen) and maybe 1-2 less heralded upperclassmen starting. Bench contributors are often freshmen or sophomores who are high energy players that will take on bigger roles the following year. It's a good blend of youth and experience, and you typically avoid ego issues instead of loading up with all top 10 kids. The players who aren't happy with smaller roles weed themselves out, and the cycle repeats. It clearly works since I don't think UCONN has had a top player transfer out, maybe ever, aside from EDD which was a unique situation.


In regards to South Carolina, Dawn's approach hasn't seemed quite as methodical over the years as Geno's, largely because she's been building a juggernaut reputation rather than already having one established. She's landed 2 absolutely massive classes, but big classes usually do not stick together since playing time issues arise. She does have playing time available for all of her 2019 kids, but I see inevitable playing time concerns for her 2021 class when all of those freshmen will likely be coming off the bench. The following year, in all likelihood at least 2 or 3 of those players will still be coming off the bench. Feagin, Rivers, and Johnson are all ranked as top 5 recruits by various publications. Most top 10 recruits are not on board with coming off the bench for half of their career.

I'm guessing it will still work well for Dawn even if 1-2 big names end up transferring. And she'll still recruit quite well, especially since she has done fantastic in the transfer market. The benefit of this approach is that by the time your best kids are upperclassmen, the teams created are really, really good. We've seen this happen recently with Oregon in 2020, Notre Dame in 2018/2019, Baylor in 2019, and Mississippi State in 2018. All of those teams had championship caliber teams, and all were dominated by upperclassmen.

I'm not sure if this all makes a lot of sense or if it's mostly rambling thoughts, but that's my take on different recruiting philosophies.
 

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