Exactly! And to Linart's observation of Aubrey moving stiffly during a huddle with the anxiety look on her face mirrored my own experience.
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I have no idea what AG's back problem stems from, but Sarno's concepts are proven to work and involve zero medical treatments, simply a change in mind set...............it couldn't hurt to consider it for anybody who has back issues before going the more serious medical route involving injections and or surgery......
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i think aubrey perhaps should consult Dr. Maryjane.
Husky Nan, no-one is being a pretend doctor. I for one am relating a personal experience which appears on the surface to be similar with Aubrey's. Given that her medical team has per Geno been unable to come up with solutions, what's the issue with offering a constructive suggestion? As for her facial expression, yes, and when combined with moving stiffly, it is very similar to my own experience. I'm for Aubrey getting better asap. What is the issue with offering a constructive suggestion not based on speculation but on real life experience?
I can remember driving my mower on a slope that was decidedly too steep for it and leaning into the slope to kind of become a human Outrigger.
So, what is the best way to mow a steep hill with a zero turn? Our back yard has such a section. So far, I go straight up & then do next pass going down, but the up travel is making me nervous. I do have ROPS but it’s usually down as I cut under trees too- I’ll put that up next year when doing that hill. Or, go diagonally with front slanted up all the time?
So, what is the best way to mow a steep hill with a zero turn? Our back yard has such a section. So far, I go straight up & then do next pass going down, but the up travel is making me nervous. I do have ROPS but it’s usually down as I cut under trees too- I’ll put that up next year when doing that hill. Or, go diagonally with front slanted up all the time?
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If your cured after 7 days it probably wasn’t the common cold treatment or not
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As someone who has had back issues I can say this: moving stiffly can mean she's feeling immediate pain & is trying to ease it by moving carefully OR she is anticipating pain (whether she actually experiences it or not) so she's moving carefully to avoid it. In the latter instance it really is a mind issue. Been there, done that. Time is the best cure IMO along with whatever medical treatment she may be receiving.
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I could be mistaken and haven't stayed at a Holiday Inn Express recently, but every back doctor that I have met with only prescribed injections or surgery when there was a medical issue, not as a last resort or a book didn't to the job. But maybe I should have read the book while I was laying along my driveway with a broken back waiting for my wife to get home and call an ambulance. Maybe the Audible version.
BTW, when I broke my back, I was able to get up and walk for a while, until the steep hill, heat and humidity got the better of me.
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Actually, Sarno proved that even those with various kinds of back issues found in x-rays, MRIs etc could still live pain free with his techniques..........that said I doubt he could help if you had a broken back....
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Not familiar with Sarno at all but curious, it seems from the posts and a cursory look at the “10 lessons” attachment this mental stress treatment is confined to reducing back pain specifically? Seems odd, but I certainly don’t knock anything that has worked.
If this view or various versions of it are trending higher, I respectfully submit, particularly to the skeptics, that via a cost/benefit ratio the Sarno approach has little to no cost and a huge upside potential for Aubrey. It mystifies me why Aubrey well-wishers are willing to take shots at possibilities that have proven successful elsewhere and attested to by other BYers. But then I'm new to social media (the BY being my first) and if this is SOP on the BY, I'm surprised but wll be guided accordingly.
Again from personal experience, at the start of her career, my wife was in a stressful training program where it was announced 2 out of 3 in the class would wash out. Notwithstanding her high ranking, she developed debilitating back issues. She too went to Dr. Sarno and eventually it worked (as did her success in the program).
Years later her work also became stressful experiencing burning and debilitating burning pain in her hands and arm. Requiring use of word processing, she had to learn a cumbersome voice program. She went back to Dr. Sarno, who reassured her this too would pass with the reduction of stress. And it worked - that was approx. 20 years ago.
I can't emphasize enough how big a role stress impacts health, but that traditional medicine/practitioners don't buy into it.
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Melanie Thernstrom - - a chronic pain sufferer has a very good book on the subject and explores the history of chronic pain as well as more recent thinking and treatments on the subject. She does discuss Sarno's book and also exposes some if his shortcomings.
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Not trying to be a downer but I somehow hurt my back in 2001, have been under treatment since, and they still cannot tell me (beyond vague descriptions of “degenerative disc disease, arthritis, slightly bulging disc, etc”) exactly what is causing my pain. I’ve had literally dozens of shots, procedures, therapy, medications and it is as bad or worse than ever. Backs are very troublesome things! I pray they can find the source of this young lady’s pain/problems and be able to help her. Believe me, at this point the most important thing is to allow her to live a pain free life! Basketball is wayyyy secondary to that.
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This post is not intended to be relevant to Aubrey, just something I found interesting and relevant to the last several posts.
This article appeared in the Washington Post recently, with results of two recent peer-reviewed studies of techniques that build on Sarno's work, including something called pain reprocessing treatment, an entirely psychological approach. I looked up both papers, and one thing jumped out at me. In one of the studies on back pain, there was the test group that got the pain-reprocessing treatment, a placebo group, and a control group that kept up their normal treatment. The trial was small (50 people in each group), but at the end twice as many in the placebo group were largely pain free as in the group getting the usual treatment. The pain-reprocessing treatment was an order of magnitude more effective than conventional treatment.
This article appeared in the Washington Post recently, with results of two recent peer-reviewed studies of techniques that build on Sarno's work, including something called pain reprocessing treatment, an entirely psychological approach. I looked up both papers, and one thing jumped out at me. In one of the studies on back pain, there was the test group that got the pain-reprocessing treatment, a placebo group, and a control group that kept up their normal treatment. The trial was small (50 people in each group), but at the end twice as many in the placebo group were largely pain free as in the group getting the usual treatment. The pain-reprocessing treatment was an order of magnitude more effective than conventional treatment.
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Here we go again! I was hoping we could wait until the end of the season. However, after yet another reminder of his gross incompetence it’s becoming clear that we cannot wait any longer! Geno must go!
Let the search begin! (This may take awhile!)
These kinds of posts are very puzzling to me. I don’t think anyone on the Boneyard questions your sincerity or good intentions. Some are likely pushing back against their (perhaps mistaken) perception that you are coming across as the “knowledgeable outsider” who holds the secret to curing a beloved player who (presumably) is getting the best treatment possible already.
Others, like me, may wonder what makes you so sure they have not already tried your solution. Unfortunately, some back issues may never be resolved! I also think (perhaps wrongly) that many people have suspicions/doubts about medical cures/solutions that are pushed in books. They wonder why, if all is true, the medical establishment is not jumping on this “miracle cure” and spreading it across the country.
Again, not doubting or putting down in any way your belief in this or your good intentions in posting about it. I just think our society tends to trust the “degreed professional in an office/hospital over individuals who come up with these “miracle cures” and write a bestselling book about it. They may actually work but it takes a little time for people to accept it. So, don’t take it personal. Finally, I doubt money is a consideration at all.
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Everyone's pain is different. And, we all think our pain is the worst.
Hopefully they can sort Aubrey out.
Hopefully they can sort Aubrey out.
Respectfully, you make it sound as though I'm a know-it-all trying to push a pet solution. I provided examples of others with similar experiences, and some on the BY have related same. Do I know if Aubrey's medical team have tried the Dr. Sarno approach with her? No; but if I had to bet, I'd bet no. But seeing that it has lingered for some time and not knowing the cause makes one wonder.Here we go again! I was hoping we could wait until the end of the season. However, after yet another reminder of his gross incompetence it’s becoming clear that we cannot wait any longer! Geno must go!
Let the search begin! (This may take awhile!)
These kinds of posts are very puzzling to me. I don’t think anyone on the Boneyard questions your sincerity or good intentions. Some are likely pushing back against their (perhaps mistaken) perception that you are coming across as the “knowledgeable outsider” who holds the secret to curing a beloved player who (presumably) is getting the best treatment possible already.
Others, like me, may wonder what makes you so sure they have not already tried your solution. Unfortunately, some back issues may never be resolved! I also think (perhaps wrongly) that many people have suspicions/doubts about medical cures/solutions that are pushed in books. They wonder why, if all is true, the medical establishment is not jumping on this “miracle cure” and spreading it across the country.
Again, not doubting or putting down in any way your belief in this or your good intentions in posting about it. I just think our society tends to trust the “degreed professional in an office/hospital over individuals who come up with these “miracle cures” and write a bestselling book about it. They may actually work but it takes a little time for people to accept it. So, don’t take it personal. Finally, I doubt money is a consideration at all.
Dr. Sarno did not come up with a "miracle cure"; he and a Scandinavian colleague studied thousands of cases and analyzed their results. That's where they got their 4% - 96% findings. He didn't sell any magic tonic or medicine. He simply pointed out that modern life is stressful, and whereas in the past it manifested itself via ulcers, in current life ulcers have given way to back pain. If you prefer, his magic cure is "Relax " by whatever way works for you.
FWIW, I did not take your post as a know-it-all one at all. I found it interesting enough to spend several hours researching the approach and after spending that time am even more curious.
Not the same thing except for the skepticism some will have at the concept, but my sister years ago had a close friend of hers rushed to the hospital with a heart attack. He died on the operating table but was revived and saved; he lived 25 years more after the incident.
Anyway, he described traveling outside his body and asked her to investigate three mundane conversations he heard around the hospital and an incident in an ambulance outside the emergency room and she confirmed two of the conversations and the ambulance event. To this day my sister has an unshakable belief that there is life after death, to people she has shared the story with through the years, not so much to say the least.
Don't know what to say about the outer-body experience other than "wow"; but I salute your curiosity!