At The Risk Of A Stoning

Discussion in 'UConn Women's Basketball' started by RockyMTblue2, Feb 13, 2018.

  1. Longtime fan

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    I always call her " Katy-Lou." Just me.
     
  2. Longtime fan

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    Your memory is a lot different from mine. I know that Stewie "emerged" in the tournament, and became MVP ( I think ) of NCAA. I know that she was benched once or twice. But when she was in games, she always showed flashes of her talent and ability to dominate a game. Megan has shown some....early against ND, and UCLA. but " always showed flashes " is not a phrase I would use to describe her appearances, particularly of late. Would you use that term to describe her court time vs. Louisville? Stewie seemed to gather momentum once she " got it," and played better every game. Demanding court time. Have you seen this from Megan? I want to see her emerge as much as anyone. But it if it is happening, it is really on a slow track.
     
  3. NewCorn

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    I agree, except that it seems to me UConn shots a lower percentage when they slow down rather than the the higher percentage we might expect. I may be wrong about this. But perhaps the fast pace leaves less time for over thinking.
     
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  4. robaust10

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    It's tough for MW to feel good. The coach has been very critical and sarcastic. She seems very sensitive. You are right about the self doubt.

    Read her scouting report.
    " great off the dribble" . She tries that maybe once a week. They have her posting up down low. She is only 6'1.
    I feel bad for her being such a target for Geno's wrath.
    I too look forward to when she comes in. Two minutes, two assists. And you don't play again? WE NEED HER!
     
  5. robaust10

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    I certainly hope we can find a way to make Walker a key reserve. It looks like sheer confidence, afraid to make a mistake. Not sure being a small 6"1 why she is always down low in the box. We recruited her as a wing?
     
  6. RockyMTblue2

    RockyMTblue2 Don't Look Up!

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    Lou says it even clearer in this quote (you do remember what this thread was about right? ;)):

    “We were trying to slow it down, clearly,” UConn’s Katie Lou Samuelson said. “We felt like we had to get a good shot each possession, but it seemed like we were taking worst shots than when we were speeding it up. So [it’s important to] just understand how to play when you're up and still be able to execute the way you want to.”

    UConn Women's Notebook: Chris Dailey To Be Inducted Into Women's Basketball Hall Of Fame
     
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  7. connie

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    Yes; take it easy, enjoy the team, enjoy the games, live in hope, and resist the temptation to proceed from a fear of losing.
     
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  9. Jaybird65

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    Yep for yesterday & it was the same for the UCF game last week...
     
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  10. BobbyJ

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    Yeah, it's called the "Rope-a-Dope."
     
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  11. BobbyJ

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    I would say Texas based on the inside matchups. Their bigs can move and if they can shoot as well as the first game they're are dangerous.
     
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    It’s getting to be too many years ago for me to remember, but Ann Strother I believe didn’t have a great first year and some services rated Nichole Wolff #1 and she never had a superior season.
     
  13. SVCBeercats

    SVCBeercats KARMA! Its called KARMA!

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    Not when three of your starters are playing with injuries and you have only two subs who some times show up and other times don't. Irrespective of their conditioning too many minutes right now will simply aggravate injuries that need to be healed or kept in check until the Big Dance,
     
  14. meyers7

    meyers7 Smarty Pants

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    Where in the world are you getting that!!!???? :confused:

    We haven't had much trouble winning games this year. I mean have we lost a game this year? Did I miss something? A couple closer games, but there are always gonna be a couple of those.
    The "most dismal" conference in America? Granted it's not the best, but have you heard of the America East? Atlantic 10? Big Sky? MAAC? Missouri Valley? Patriot League? There are plenty of conferences below the AAC.

    We most likely would not play any of those teams in the Elite 8, let alone back to back.

    Maybe in the FF. But then those teams might have to play either Louisville, Baylor, Miss St., Notre Dame AND then play UCONN in a NC game. A game UCONN has never lost. I'd much rather be us than them.

    Seriously people, have some perspective. SMH.
     
  15. bags27

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    2 take-aways from last night:
    1. Maybe slow-down is not what UConn does well. They are a finesse team that needs to strike when there's opportunity. Maybe this is UConn's biggest vulnerability: it can only play great basketball at one speed. Live and die by the sword....
    2. Z had a strong 4Q. Geno trusts her at least some, and she responded.
     
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  16. Bama fan

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    I think you are right on all counts, especially the last one!:D
     
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    easttexastrash Stay Classy!

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    I don't see anyone running either MSU or Baylor into the ground. Both are very well conditioned teams and with Baylor's lack of depth all of the starters will be accustomed to playing almost the entire game.

    I agree that the biggest threats are MSU and Baylor because they are the BIGGEST.
     
  18. VAMike23

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    IIRC, Stewie was all-world in her first 10 games or so, challenging (exceeding?) even the gaudiest of freshman-year stats that Maya put up, such as "Quickest to 100 points" or "Most point in the first 10 games" -- that kind of thing. It was a pretty sustained stretch early on. Heady stuff. Megan has had a couple of nice games and one very nice one, but nothing remotely like Stewie's freshman year brilliance at the outset.

    It was only around the time we hit the conference schedule that the wheels started to fall off in Stewie's case. Then came a fairly prolonged funk, after which she took off like a rocket in the post-season, as you both point out.
     
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  19. Jaybird65

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    Not sure Collier has taken a significant step backward...she had an extraordinary year last year like the year Tony Gywnn & George Brett had when chasing .400 - you can't ask for that every year - shooting 67% for the year is crazy. She is making 3 fewer baskets per game - is that really an issue? She is on track to grab more rebounds than last year. I hope our expectations of her do not skew our perception of what she brings to this team.
     
  20. AgStatesman

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    With UConn it's always about UConn. Louisville never played great at any point yesterday. The Husky's only got good or above average offensive output at 2 positions. Gabby and Katie Lou were fine, the rest had a subpar game. I think to win going away when you only have 2 or 7 regulars playing well offensively is fine. UConn didn't coast or play not to lose. They just didn't make open shots that they normally do. Crystal, Pheesa, and Azura were a combined 12-34 with many of their misses being jump shots. If they shoot just a few percentage points higher then it is a 20 plus point win.
     
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    Right. The shots didn't go in in the 2nd half. UConn had the opportunities, but they didn't deliver. Also, Danger was missing more than usual and taking some speeded-up shots from afar. Kia, great on defense, also didn't score her usual 12-14. Louisville is a good team, and I'm very happy to leave with a win. However, I wondered why the Cardinals played so deliberately behind by so much. Maybe it's because they couldn't get off their shots due to the Huskies' smothering d, but right to the end they were taking their time getting down the floor and setting up. Odd.
    Reckon we'll have to wait for the tournament to see a complete game (ie, 4-quarter effort) against good competition. We know from ND and Texas that the team is capable of playing good minutes in the last quarter, so no need to lose sleep. We'll just have to be satisfied with another perfect season . . .
     
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    Thank You Myers7... Not too long ago HuskeyNan questioned why so many people were "freaking out" this year... so many nervous nellies / negative nancies. Perhaps a nod to the basketball gods or not trying to disrupt MOJO? I dunno... but let's put it in to clearer perspective...especially regarding the last point you addressed...about playing all the best teams back to back in the NCAA tournament and the fear about overplaying our starters.

    None of this is "new" but it really doesn't look so ominous when laid out as I will below:
    - Geno and CD have danced this dance before and understand how to manage the team especially come tournament time.
    - WORST Case, we play Two of the Top 4 Teams Back to Back... but that's the same challenge for every team that makes it to the final 4.

    - Assuming UConn wins out in Conference and the Conference Tournament (no reason to think otherwise...after all, they destroyed the #2 team in the conference in their home gym), That gives UConn the overall #1 seed in NCAA tournament (in theory of the seeding system, the "easiest road" to the final 4). That won't start for nearly 2 weeks after AAC tournament ends (i.e. rest for entire team)
    - Round 1, in Gampel Pavilion, they play the #64 overall seed... the last team to make it into the tournament. One has to believe UConn will prevail pretty handily, with lots of time for subs to play and rest the starters.
    - Round 2, in Gampel Pavilion again, they play either the #32 or #33 overall seeds... again, one has to believe UConn will prevail pretty handily, again with significant time for subs to play and rest the starters.
    - Take 4 or 5 days off. More "rest" for entire team.
    - Round 3, Albany, UConn will play either the #16, #17, #41 or #56 overall seeds... again, not too much reason for concern here...and again, ample time for subs to play/rest starters.
    - Round 4, Albany, UConn will play either the #8, #9, #24, #25 , #40, #48, #49 or #63 overall seeds. Perhaps there will be more need for Starters to play longer if the #8 or #9 are left, but the current teams in those spots should not be a significant challenge to UConn... Even if the starters have to play longer, they have another rest period (4 or 5 days) before the final 4.

    Final Four...at this point, all bets are off for All the Final 4 Teams. Every survivor will be playing starters a lot because its now the toughest competition left. The worst case for UConn is they play the #4 seed in the Semi-final... (Louisville or ND??? depending on who wins their Conference/Conf Tournament - Both will be formidable foes, but we've beaten them both already this year). While #2 and #3 seeds (presumably MSST and Baylor ??) beat themselves up in the other Semi-Final.
    NC Game...again, all bets off... no one gets tired in the NC Game!!!

    I feel pretty good about UConn's road through the tournament if things play out as they look today... Sure upsets happen in the National Championship Tournament... as long as UConn gets the overall #1 seed and the committee does a reasonable job of laying out the brackets (that's their job after all)... then I feel pretty good about the chances for our Team!
     
  23. PAHuskeyFan

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    OK... but 3s by Z or handing the ball to Lou with 1 second left on the shot clock while also being a "visual block" between her and the basket hardly constitute "having opportunities". The slow down offense took them way out of their flow.
     
  24. connie

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    Well, then you play basketball.

    Look, there's no magic formula here for accurately predicting what will happen if certain events unfold. The concern I keep reading is whether UConn can win in a close game where things aren't going as planned.

    But we've already done that. Repeatedly. This year.

    The only way to know if we can beat Baylor, or MSST, or Oregon, or anyone in the tournament is to play them.
     
  25. UcMiami

    UcMiami How it is

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    The slow down is pretty standard fare with Uconn in second halves and is based on some simple math - last night for example
    1. 20 point lead
    2. No team shoots 50% against the Uconn defense
    3. 20 minutes and 30 second shot clock should result during a slowdown game in 30 shots maximum for the opponent.
    4. 30 shots at less than 50% is maximum of 14 makes - if 50% are threes (unlikely) then opponent scores 35 points - call it 40 at the outside.
    5 40 points minus 20 point Uconn lead = 20 - Uconn needs to score 21 points to win in 20 minutes
    6. Except for Stanford in that miserable NC game I cannot remember a half of basketball when Uconn scored less than 21 points.

    Last night Uconn scored an 'ugly 27' and Louisville scored 36 - Uconn wins. Louisville got 29 shots and made 15 (51.7%! but only 33% were 3s.)
     
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