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At some point do we see Sanogo and Clingan on the floor together?

I don't see why you would do it. There were so many issues and complaints about Whaley and Sanogo on the floor last year best exposed by Creighton.

They are both great players and expose other teams weaknesses in their depth.

You also create risk for UConn from foul management standpoint.

At best you could run a high low with them as Whaley did occasionally last season to AS but at worst invite doubling in the paint. But Karaban and Andre already can fill this role at the four and Andre can guard that spot so you're not losing anything at other end.

It would be nice considering how effective both are but I think are better separate than together. The value of shooters around them is very difficult for opposing teams to counter. It's pick your poison: Sanogo or Clingan wrecking you in the paint or Karaban Hawk Joey Tristen Alleyne wrecking you from deep.
 
The current rotation is a big part of our success.
2 great centers. But they are very different. Teams have to prepare for two different types of centers and that is what I believe is key.

Don’t mess with what’s working l.
 
I don't see the point/need to do that? Being able to switch back and forth between Sanogo and Clingan is such a luxury that there is no reason to mess with it.
It's a terrible, 1990s based idea. There's absolutely no reason to do it other than to ruin our spacing and potentially get our bigs into foul trouble.
 
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College and the pros are two different things, but if you think about it as professionals there would not be any debate at all. Clingan would be considered a C and Sanogo would be thought of as a PF. And if on the same team, they would of course be expected to play together.

Clingan won't have to change positions but Sanogo very likely will. You could make a strong case that learning to play PF next to a bigger C is actually in Sanogo's best long range interests as well. I understand the status quo is working quite well, but these are clearly the two best players on the team. At least experimenting with it when the game is not in doubt.

Even if it is not the starting lineup, getting used to it as a tool that can be used in certain circumstances would appear to have great value IMO.
 
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I think the reason this hasn’t happened yet is Cling is still learning - from Sanogo. None of his weaknesses are exposed when he’s stepping in and out. Sanogo is still the top dog and resting him is the best strategy, since the games have all been blowouts. Lower injury risk and they’re primed for the next game.
But - please, please please put them out there together when Purdue rolls around.
 
I think the reason this hasn’t happened yet is Cling is still learning - from Sanogo. None of his weaknesses are exposed when he’s stepping in and out. Sanogo is still the top dog and resting him is the best strategy, since the games have all been blowouts. Lower injury risk and they’re primed for the next game.
But - please, please please put them out there together when Purdue rolls around.

Which one is the point guard?
 
My Dream Team?

Unsustainable for more than a minute and a half. But you know you want to see it.

AJax at point.

Alex and Samson as guard forwards.

Adama at the 4.

Donovan at the 5.

Just to say I saw it.
 
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You've got to admit playing zone with a line up of AS, DC, SJ, JH, & AJ would be intriguing.

Only one shooter though need to replace SJ with Joey then I like it.
 
Not until we play Arizona.

My thought too. Arizona is showing that you can still win big with 2 traditional bigs and I am extremely curious as to how it would look. But we currently have the best performing team in the country. And I think it is imperative to keep Sanogo fresh - it was obvious to anybody that Sanogo had been run ragged by the end of the year. Was it against Creighton where Sanogo missed bunny after bunny? As currently constructed, we have an absolutely dominant big on the floor 40 minutes per game. And its not really worth experimenting in the off chance that we catch 1 team in the tourney, a team we match up well with even as currently deployed. Plus I don't really want to watch Sanogo chasing around 6'6 small ball 4's in conference.
 


It's already happened.

It worked well once Diarra was replaced by Newton. And in spite of Hawkins making one of the four worse passes in PK history.

“What are the four worse passes Bill?”
Bill not willing to get tripped up in the OTT statement: “I said one of the four worst passes.”

We’ll definitely see it again before this season ends especially if Samson is delayed or struggling when he returns.

LOL that no one thought of putting Joey on Sonongo’s back so we could have two over seven footers and still have four out one in. Would build Adama’s 3 pt resume and make it harder for opponents to shoot over Joey.
 
I could see Hurley showing this near the end of the season, if for no other reason than to give other teams something else to have to gameplan for. Of course, what could a game plan for that possibly be?
Uh….you haven’t been watching much? Hurley has already experimented with this. Sanaogo, Clingan, Hawkins, Karaban, and Newton. I have watched several instances where the game was close when the coaches tried this and opposing teams were clueless on how to defend it. It really opens things up for Karaban and Hawkins. They can’t double team anybody.
 
Uh….you haven’t been watching much? Hurley has already experimented with this. Sanaogo, Clingan, Hawkins, Karaban, and Newton. I have watched several instances where the game was close when the coaches tried this and opposing teams were clueless on how to defend it. It really opens things up for Karaban and Hawkins. They can’t double team anybody.
Sanogo and Clingan sharing the court has literally happened for a grand total of 3 minutes and 35 seconds this season in only two games: Boston University and Oregon. Would love to know of the other instances outside of those two games that you are referring to.
 
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Uh….you haven’t been watching much? Hurley has already experimented with this. Sanaogo, Clingan, Hawkins, Karaban, and Newton. I have watched several instances where the game was close when the coaches tried this and opposing teams were clueless on how to defend it. It really opens things up for Karaban and Hawkins. They can’t double team anybody.
I think your memory is failing you a bit.
 
Sanogo and Clingan sharing the court has literally happened for a grand total of 3 minutes and 35 seconds this season in only two games: Boston University and Oregon. Would love to know of the other instances outside of those two games that you are referring to.
You are “literally” wrong!!! Check out Florida, and Iowa State. Even in the LIU game they were briefly on the court together.
 
All you have to do is look at Purdue who was in the same situation last year with Trevion Williams and Zach Edey who were both dominating. They both averaged around 20 minutes a game and played 9 possessions together the whole season

The main difference is that Purdue was clearly better with Edey.
 
I'm curious as to how many on here have forgotten our two most recent national title teams.

What I want to see (at all times) is two ball handlers (either Jackson and whoever is on the court as PG or two PG's).

We have sufficient evidence that (from many teams in many tournaments over the years) that worrying too much about height can be a recipe for disaster.
The Harrison twins offer their concurrence.........
 
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Was it against Creighton where Sanogo missed bunny after bunny?

Nova in 2nd half of BET. We had a real shot at gaining separation up 3-4 points early in 2nd half , got a bunch of stops in a row and got Adama some really solid looks every trip, and just missed 'em.
 
Nova in 2nd half of BET. We had a real shot at gaining separation up 3-4 points early in 2nd half , got a bunch of stops in a row and got Adama some really solid looks every trip, and just missed 'em.
That was brutal, if he just makes layups that game we would've opened the game up and won.

Some people say it was his finger bothering him but everyone is dinged up at the end of the season. He looked like he ran out of gas, I don't see that happening this season.
 
That was brutal, if he just makes layups that game we would've opened the game up and won.

Some people say it was his finger bothering him but everyone is dinged up at the end of the season. He looked like he ran out of gas, I don't see that happening this season.

Yeah he definitely was tired at end of season last year. He is such a high motor guy I really like that DC gives him significant blows.
 
That was brutal, if he just makes layups that game we would've opened the game up and won.

Some people say it was his finger bothering him but everyone is dinged up at the end of the season. He looked like he ran out of gas, I don't see that happening this season.

And clearly exacerbated by chasing around Samuels and their lefty. Which would be far more common at the 4.
 
Uh….you haven’t been watching much? Hurley has already experimented with this. Sanaogo, Clingan, Hawkins, Karaban, and Newton. I have watched several instances where the game was close when the coaches tried this and opposing teams were clueless on how to defend it. It really opens things up for Karaban and Hawkins. They can’t double team anybody.

I'm thinking you aren't watching games very much. Like TCF said... 3 minutes and 35 seconds. They've played something like 1 or 2 possession at a time in 2 games this year. Give me a break man. I have yet to understand why people who watch games on TV (and in your case... apparently not) think they know better than our coaching staff. The measure of success in basketball is wins and losses. We haven't lost yet. Take a seat.

Having Sanogo and Clingan on the floor is not good for spacing. It's TERRIBLE for spacing. I'm not sure you understand how basketball works. If Clingan or Sanogo is on the floor, opposing defenders are planting themselves in the pain. NO ONE has spacing when that happens. It gets even worse if Andre is in the game.

Let's not forget that Sanogo trying to guard 6'6 power forwards is a recipe for disaster on defense too. Opposing coaches will salivate at the mouth if he's guarding their perimeter players. Anyone who thinks otherwise is clueless.

Let me say what I said in other threads:

Offense: #7 in the country.
Defense: #4 in the country.
Freshman: Outplaying their ranking by a country mile.
AP ranking: #3.
Computer ranking: #1 on every site.
Boneyard: We must drastically change our rotations and style of play. Our coaches clearly have no idea what they're doing.
 
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