Astros Punishment Handed Down

[Chin Diesel]

Hinchey and Luhnow suspended for a year. Team loses draft picks in 2020 and 2021. Says Cora's punishment is still being decided but it will be severe.

Astros' Jeff Luhnow, AJ Hinch fired for sign stealing

Astros GM Jeff Luhnow and manager AJ Hinch were fired Monday after MLB issued one-season suspensions for their roles in a sign-stealing scheme.

www.espn.com

 

[billythekid]

I'm assuming they'll appeal, but MLB had no choice but to come down hard after drawing a line in the sand on this type of activity a couple of years ago.

 

[G0UCONN]

Cora sweating BBs.

MLB To Suspend Jeff Luhnow, A.J. Hinch For One Year; Astros Stripped Of Draft Picks

Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred announced an unprecedented level of discipline against the Astros organization Monday in the wake …

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[Dove]

No time to read this yet but did Cora invent this scheme? If so...must get more than a year I would think.

 

[progrocks]

Astros have fired both of their employees.

Wow.

 

[huskeynut]

Astros have fired both of their employees.

Wow.

As the Astros should have.

Got a feeling Cora will be the next one unemployed.

 

[navery12]

No time to read this yet but did Cora invent this scheme? If so...must get more than a year I would think.

Cora was the mastermind behind it and then got caught again in Boston. He's getting more than a year

 

[billythekid]

I don't typically root for people to lose their jobs, but Hinch was such a defiant jerk when it came out that Yankees thought Houston was stealing signs. Hard to feel too badly for him. It will be interesting to see how quickly he finds another managing job as he seemed to be regarded as one of the top managers in MLB. It's not like there's a show-cause situation once his suspension is up.

 

[Steelerone]

In the words of William Shakespeare - "Much Ado About Nothing".

 

[Dove]

Cora was the mastermind behind it and then got caught again in Boston. He's getting more than a year

At least 5. Maybe life like Taubman.

 

[Fairfield_1st]

At least 5. Maybe life like Taubman.

Taubman is just a year. From USA Today. Former Houston Astros assistant GM Brandon Taubman suspended for explicit tirade toward reporters

"Brandon Taubman, the former Houston Astros assistant general manager who was fired during last year's playoffs for an expletive-filled tirade aimed at female reporters, will be ineligible to work for any Major League Baseball club through the day after the 2020 season ends."

 

[G0UCONN]

I don't get why the Astros team or any other teams would do this where players regularly change teams....how do you not expect to get caught?

In this case an ex-P Mike Fiers spilled the beans.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Cora is a deadman walking after MLB handed down a yearlong suspension to two gusy who were not directly involved in this fiasco. Boston media is already talking about replacement canidates. I'm not even sure if Cora will be the Red Sox manager when MLB releases that report. Of even greater concern for the Red Sox, espeically with their inetrnal mandate to get under the payroll tax ceiling, is that Houston have also lost 1st and 2nd round draft-picks over the next two seasons. That can really hit a team hard down the road.

 

[billythekid]

I don't get why the Astros team or any other teams would do this where players regularly change teams....how do you not expect to get caught?

In this case an ex-P Mike Fiers spilled the beans.

Based on the fact that Fiers seems to be catching grief, in some quarters, over spilling the beans on his teammates, I'm guessing the Astros never thought anyone would dime them out.

 

[AustrieGOAT]

Cora's suspension is going to be the most severe. The Commissioner's Statement confirms he was the mastermind behind the whole operation: "Alex Cora began to call the replay review room on the replay phone to obtain sign information... Cora arranged for a video room technician to install a monitor displaying the center field camera feed immediately outside of the Astros dugout."

But not only that, he took the scheme he developed with the Astros and brought that to the Red Sox, as the Statement outlines the same exact Apple Watch testing scheme was used for some time with the Astros, as was exposed in the NYT article last season. This only underscores the fact that he led the scheme and carried it with him as he moved to the Red Sox.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Cora get two+ year suspension, considering he was not just an active participant (something Hinch and Luhnow were not and both got a year), but the mastermind behind it all. Would be extremely hypocritical to see the Commissioner dish out anything equal or less than a year.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Cora's gone. No surprise there.

Alex Cora out as Red Sox manager following sign-stealing scandals

The Red Sox said that given the findings of the Astros' investigation, "we collectively decided that it would not be possible for Alex to effectively lead the club going forward."

www.espn.com

I don't often agree with a lot of what ESPN published; but, I do agree that MLB is targeting who they are going after without spreading the blame to those who really ran it - the players, in part due to fear of the Players' Union, and the owners, who continue to profit from these type of actions without taking any of the blame.

Why anger is boiling behind the scenes about Houston Astros' sign-stealing punishments

MLB's discipline and the franchise's firing of its manager and GM made for a great show about taking a hard-line stance. But here's why many across baseball feel Houston's owner got off easy.

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Take (vacate) the 2017 World Servies from the Astros and potentially the Red Sox and this stuff stops.

 

[60'sfan]

IMHO what Cora did was much worse than what Pete Rose did. He should be banned for life.

 

[huskeynut]

Well the third casualty has happened. Beltran out as Mets manger.

 

[Dove]

Altuve called his agent to announce he (Altuve) never were an electronic signaling device in a game.

Whew.

 

[Dove]