As college football's elite is engulfed in a power struggle, G5 left just trying to survive: 'We are a farm system'(Ross Dellenger @ Yahoo)

[huskymedic]

 

[Exit 4]

Hmmm,

So that looks to be UConn/OSU/WSU sharing a .20% bucket.

.2% / 3 = .06667% per school UConn/Pac2 Indy.
G5= 9% / 63 schools? = .142857%

Bottomline, the decimals matter here for us folks! Lets get more decimals.

 

[UCFBfan]

Hmmm,

So that looks to be UConn/OSU/WSU sharing a .20% bucket.

.2% / 3 = .06667% per school UConn/Pac2 Indy.
G5= 9% / 63 schools? = .142857%

Bottomline, the decimals matter here for us folks! Lets get more decimals.

Hence why UMass did the math and went to the MAC. Not saying we should do the same but Indy status is killing us and this will be even worse. Schools like UMass will actually be making more money from the CFP payouts

 

[Exit 4]

Hence why UMass did the math and went to the MAC. Not saying we should do the same but Indy status is killing us and this will be even worse. Schools like UMass will actually be making more money from the CFP payouts

UMass moved to the MAC because it will never have better options.

 

[Steve1981]

Sources tell ESPN there will be a financial incentive for any independent team that reaches the CFP. (There will no longer be a participation bonus for any of the other leagues -- a detail that was frustrating to some leaders in the Group of 5.) Gr schools increase from 1.5M per to 1.8M

new contract close to being finalized today article link

 

[huskymedic]

-> With the increase in the ESPN distribution, no school’s revenue will decrease. Major conference schools currently receive about $6 million in distribution from the CFP. The SEC and Big Ten schools will see their annual distribution triple if not quadruple into the low $20 million range. ACC and Big 12 schools are set to see a more than doubling of their previous amounts. Independents UConn, Washington State and Oregon State will get a small portion.

Notre Dame, one of the sport’s historical powers that retains its seat in the CFP governance structure, will see its distribution double to $12.5 million annually — with a caveat that includes a financial bonus. The four independents are eligible for a performance-distribution payout. If Notre Dame or other independents qualify for the playoff, they each receive a flat fee of $6 million. <-

 

[Exit 4]

-> With the increase in the ESPN distribution, no school’s revenue will decrease. Major conference schools currently receive about $6 million in distribution from the CFP. The SEC and Big Ten schools will see their annual distribution triple if not quadruple into the low $20 million range. ACC and Big 12 schools are set to see a more than doubling of their previous amounts. Independents UConn, Washington State and Oregon State will get a small portion.

Notre Dame, one of the sport’s historical powers that retains its seat in the CFP governance structure, will see its distribution double to $12.5 million annually — with a caveat that includes a financial bonus. The four independents are eligible for a performance-distribution payout. If Notre Dame or other independents qualify for the playoff, they each receive a flat fee of $6 million. <-

The prize has been declared! $6M eh, ! Consider our position at the table, was expecting another kick in the teeth.

 

[noeynox]

-> With the increase in the ESPN distribution, no school’s revenue will decrease. Major conference schools currently receive about $6 million in distribution from the CFP. The SEC and Big Ten schools will see their annual distribution triple if not quadruple into the low $20 million range. ACC and Big 12 schools are set to see a more than doubling of their previous amounts. Independents UConn, Washington State and Oregon State will get a small portion.

Notre Dame, one of the sport’s historical powers that retains its seat in the CFP governance structure, will see its distribution double to $12.5 million annually — with a caveat that includes a financial bonus. The four independents are eligible for a performance-distribution payout. If Notre Dame or other independents qualify for the playoff, they each receive a flat fee of $6 million. <-

Go ND. Get in the playoff every year.

 

[GoConn]

So is ours better or worse than G5s?

 

[Steve1981]

So is ours better or worse than G5s?

Hard to tell as the above is 90.8% and it is roughly 9% to the G5. Is it 0.2% which is less than 1%, just don't know. The Power teams got a big raise, the G5 is small raise, FCS has been cut out and perhaps the 0.5% of indy split is being reduced to 0.2%. The devil is in the details.
If so it would be 2.6M divided by 3 or 867k. which is close to this coming years payout and would be smaller than the G5 or half the per team share. If the other two are absorbed into the MWC, perhaps a good raise.

 

[huskymedic]

-> With the increase in the ESPN distribution, no school’s revenue will decrease. Major conference schools currently receive about $6 million in distribution from the CFP. The SEC and Big Ten schools will see their annual distribution triple if not quadruple into the low $20 million range. ACC and Big 12 schools are set to see a more than doubling of their previous amounts. Independents UConn, Washington State and Oregon State will get a small portion.

Notre Dame, one of the sport’s historical powers that retains its seat in the CFP governance structure, will see its distribution double to $12.5 million annually — with a caveat that includes a financial bonus. The four independents are eligible for a performance-distribution payout. If Notre Dame or other independents qualify for the playoff, they each receive a flat fee of $6 million. <-

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Steve1981]

Och!!!!

Would 1.4M give you guys some pause of being so pro indy. Would love to have you in the MAC with us.

 

[UCFBfan]

Yay!! 350k...there's our NIL budget.....

 

[How Sway?!]

Och!!!!

Would 1.4M give you guys some pause of being so pro indy. Would love to have you in the MAC with us.

No, that money would be lost in ticket sales

 

[UCFBfan]

The prize has been declared! $6M eh, ! Consider our position at the table, was expecting another kick in the teeth.

Pretty sure that meant if any independent reached the playoff they'd individually get $6 Mil. They honestly could have said any independent not named ND who reaches the playoff will receive $300 million dollars and a spot in the SEC or B1G, their choice. It's never going to happen so why bother.

 

[rman726]

Och!!!!

Would 1.4M give you guys some pause of being so pro indy. Would love to have you in the MAC with us.

I wonder if UConn could make more money being a punching bag to other schools. The big schools typically pay the small schools to round out their OOC schedule. They are home games, where they collect a ton of food, beer, and ticket sales from. For example, Tennnessee paid UConn $1.8 mil last year. Just make a schedule of 7-8 of those type of games, and they probably end up better than anyone outside the P4…

SEC 2023 buy games: How much teams paid non-conference opponents in FCS, Group of Five

Here's how much each SEC team paid for 2023 "buy games," non-conference matchups against smaller programs given large payouts just for playing:

www.tennessean.com

 

[Redding Husky]

You know what, this splintering is not the end of the world. It's a different world than what we've been used to, but it's not the end of the world.

Part of the fun of college football in the fall is the local team. But part of the fun is also being able to tune into any of a million different broadcasts. The centralizing of power works right now because broadcasts are centralized through an old TV model that's on its last legs. Once sports consumption moves fully to apps, people can choose what they want to watch, not what they're forced to watch.

Let the left-behinds (including us, if that's how it plays out) form their own league with their own playoffs. Not FCS -- an alternative top-level league. Make it a different brand of football that's exciting to play and better to watch. Make it experimental - something that's compelling to kids and something that draws eyeballs. Throw out challenges to the BIG/SEC that they'll never answer. Set the same goal as the ABA had for the NBA - build a league that, through its play and its panache, seeks to force a merger.

Maybe that's pollyannish. But I think the whole "they're killing CFB" thing is overstated. It won't be the same, some schools may fold up shop, but UConn will still be able to find 12 teams to play in what are perhaps more meaningful and more fun games.

Maybe the lower FBS schools have to think like the AFL did in 1960. Be experimental a with a more exciting brand of football. But we'd still be limited by the NCAA, so I'm not so sure how much freedom we'd have to do very much.

 

[Zonepress]

Maybe the lower FBS schools have to think like the AFL did in 1960. Be experimental a with a more exciting brand of football. But we'd still be limited by the NCAA, so I'm not so sure how much freedom we'd have to do very much.

I’ve been reading this series of posts for a while and it seems that the big 10 and sec will eventually break away on the football side. They are pulling all the strings and everybody else jumps. Perhaps it’s time for the remaining schools to go on the offense Just a thought that im sure would have legal and practical
Obstacles but wondering if this scenario has merit
The sec and big 10 go there own way
Then
They get voted out of the Ncaa
Remaining schools not allowed to play them
This get rid of playing “guaranteed wins”
And 6 home games not 8
NCAA starts a 32 team football playoffs
Similar to fcs
The two big conf are out of all ncaa championships
Including bb
On the plus side, the money from a 32 team playoff could be significant
The big question would be how badly would the basketball tournament be affected without the schools?
How was the tournament? Look this year without Big Ten and SEC schools?
It seems these two conferences want to have it both ways maybe it’s time to fight back

Interested in anyone’s comments to tell me if I’m completely off base with this or is there merit

 

[Ldandy]

I’ve been reading this series of posts for a while and it seems that the big 10 and sec will eventually break away on the football side. They are pulling all the strings and everybody else jumps. Perhaps it’s time for the remaining schools to go on the offense Just a thought that im sure would have legal and practical
Obstacles but wondering if this scenario has merit
The sec and big 10 go there own way
Then
They get voted out of the Ncaa
Remaining schools not allowed to play them
This get rid of playing “guaranteed wins”
And 6 home games not 8
NCAA starts a 32 team football playoffs
Similar to fcs
The two big conf are out of all ncaa championships
Including bb
On the plus side, the money from a 32 team playoff could be significant
The big question would be how badly would the basketball tournament be affected without the schools?
How was the tournament? Look this year without Big Ten and SEC schools?
It seems these two conferences want to have it both ways maybe it’s time to fight back

Interested in anyone’s comments to tell me if I’m completely off base with this or is there merit

Your 32 team football playoff would probably be funded a lot like the FCS Playoff as 95% of the schools that draw TV Ratings would not be involved anymore. There has to be a better way forward for everyone.

 

[Patman]

32 team playoff is stupid and under that situation you'd probably just fold away FCS

 

[nelsonmuntz]

The allocation of bids to the playoff is a terrible idea, and will make a mockery of the sport. Why play the games at that point? It will be one step away from professional wrestling.