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As a 5th seed in BET, UConn has highest chance to win

Torvik also has us as the favorites at the moment.

UConn - 25.2%
Creighton - 22.6%
Marquette - 20.1%
Xavier - 14%
PC - 9%

I'd probably have Marquette as the favorite since they should have a pretty easy Thursday matchup
 
Torvik also has us as the favorites at the moment.

UConn - 25.2%
Creighton - 22.6%
Marquette - 20.1%
Xavier - 14%
PC - 9%

I'd probably have Marquette as the favorite since they should have a pretty easy Thursday matchup
Many people rolling their eyes at this one
 
thoughts?
my thoughts are that this is more baloney, along with the plethora of other such february clickbait hokum.
here, i'll make it easy - will zack be playing in the league tourney?
how aboot the guys on other top teams with various 'conditions?'
will they be playing? how aboot sj? will he be playing? will he have enuf run to see if he even has a role for us?

i've mentioned this a few times already, to nary a response.
Virginia at 13 is the only acc team in the net top 25, yet i figger that league for at least 6 teams in the ncaa's. how does that add up, other than many turning into datadorks, and losing all common sense and perspective?

i blame the gambling mania, and the whackjobs pushing all this crapola.
think aboot it - 22.7! 41.2! 17.66666666666666666666667! percentages aboot nothing for everyone!
garbage in, garbage out. twas ever thus.
 
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Torvik also has us as the favorites at the moment.

UConn - 25.2%
Creighton - 22.6%
Marquette - 20.1%
Xavier - 14%
PC - 9%

I'd probably have Marquette as the favorite since they should have a pretty easy Thursday matchup


Can’t be right. @FriarJ said Providence is awesome. Or something.
 
Can’t be right. @FriarJ said Providence is awesome. Or something.
To be fair of the top four seeded teams they are probably the team that worries me the most in terms of matchups. My opinion may change, or not depending on the game coming up at home.

Creighton and Marquette, UConn has beaten and played close on the road. X has Freemantle either not back or just coming back.

PC is a good team, though they crapped the bed OOC which will kill their seeding and hurt their chances of having an easier road in the NCAAT.
 
Neutral court favors us. But MSG is more of a home court for us when compared to the rest of the BE. I’m excited to catch some of these teams in the NCAA tournament on a neutral court.
 
Torvik also has us as the favorites at the moment.

UConn - 25.2%
Creighton - 22.6%
Marquette - 20.1%
Xavier - 14%
PC - 9%

I'd probably have Marquette as the favorite since they should have a pretty easy Thursday matchup
These are more of the numbers I would expect. The four best teams in the conference with fairly even chances of winning. Playing in MSG increases our % chances to win.
 
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Fun fact: the "midwest" teams in the Big East have never won the BET. Will be interesting to see if Creighton, Marquette or Xavier can end that streak this year
 
thoughts?
will zack be playing in the league tourney?
how aboot the guys on other top teams with various 'conditions?'
will they be playing? how aboot sj? will he be playing? will he have enuf run to see if he even has a role for us?

Excellent points. Injuries have to be factored in.

Not just IF Zach will be playing, but will he be helping or hurting his team after sitting out a month to 6 weeks. He could be playing but still not be fully himself, in which case he might not be helping them much if at all. It remains to be seen.

Villanova with Justin Moore back is an interesting case. Moore is obviously not himself yet. Shooting only 30% from the floor, 26% on 3’s, and 67% from the line. Those are not Justin Moore numbers. BUT they are playing better as a team with him in the lineup because he does other things. You never know.
 
Thanks for calling me out so I can rub this in your face. Again. Nice work.
I know there are a handful of OOC games left. Either they don't matter (those involving Depaul) or I am assuming the Big East team will win. Records and NET numbers are as of Noon on 12/14.


1) UConn (11-0, 1 NET) - #1 in NET and KenPom. First six weeks could not have gone any better. The team plays great defense and the offensive is light years ahead of last year. The team has depth and should have some comfortable wins in league play, which should keep everyone fresh for a long season. Beyond continual improvement in all areas, UConn also has to focus on two things: 1) Stay sharp every game because it is the League Title game every time UConn walks on the floor this season, and 2) UConn's goals extend beyond a Big East title. Style points matter because UConn needs to come into March prepared to go to the third weekend. The style points don't just matter to UConn, but to the rest of the country too.


2) Xavier (8-3, 42 NET) – 3 close losses to 3 very good opponents. 13 offense in KenPom, which is very good and 75 defense, which is OK. Miller is still washing the Travis Steele off this team, but his starting 5 (Freemantle, Jones, Nunge, Boum, Kunkel) is as good as any starting 5 in the league, including UConn’s. You can see the impact of having a weak coach like Steele develop these players, because Freemantle and Jones play like guys who always rolled over their coach and did whatever they wanted. Miller has to rein these two in, because they both could be really good. Kunkel has improved a lot and plays like much less of an idiot than he did last year. I have always liked Nunge’s game.

The best player on the team is the transfer Boum. He is a fantastic point guard and just a savvy player. It is interesting that guys like this toil in the wilderness, just waiting for an opportunity. There will be more like him in the Transfer Portal era.

The bench is a problem with this team. Claude, Craft and Hunter are OK, not great, but Miller has to figure out a way to get the starters’ minutes down to keep everyone fresh.

Xavier has a good shot at playing on the second weekend of the Tournament if they can address some of these issues.


3) Marquette (8-3, 33 NET) – 19 KenPom Offense, 62 defense. They have played as well as anyone outside of UConn so far, with three close losses to Top 22 NET teams Purdue, Mississippi State and Wisconsin, and a very good blowout win over Baylor. They have 9 guys that contribute meaningful minutes and most of them score, and their offensive efficiency is great, and Jones and Prosper are very good. I love the way this defense pounces on weak passes and transition to offense in a nanosecond. I also like teams that play unusual styles because they are hard to prepare for, especially in March. I have Marquette 3rd because I like Xavier’s starting lineup more. I think Smart is a year away from having a powerhouse.


4) Creighton (6-5, 48 NET) – 30 offense and 32 defense with KenPom. I don't get where those numbers come from for a 6-5 team that has 5 losses in a row. A team can't build a resume off just quality losses. It has to win sometimes. That said, Arizona and Texas will likely have great seasons, and ASU will be pretty good. Maybe Nebraska surprises and BYU turns things around, Arkansas and Texas Tech have good years, and Creighton looks like a team that scheduled tough, and won some and lost some.

With Kalkbrenner, this is at least the fourth best team in the league. I can’t tell if Nembhard plays out of control all the time or he is playing this way because Kalk is out. Kaluma is overrated. Scheierman is not quick enough to get open when he is the focus of the defense, but with Kalk on the court, or anyone down low, Scheierman will get a lot of open looks. I like King, and McDermott should play King and Kalk together because Kalk can pop out and shoot 3’s. The bench is pretty bad. The biggest challenge is that this team doesn't seem to have that killer instinct that a team needs to go from being pretty good to beating top teams. Creighton is 1-4 in games that were within a possession in the last 2 minutes. Turn that number around, and we are having a very different discussion about Creighton.

Another problem with this team is the 5 game losing streak. Turning that around is a huge coaching challenge. I do think Creighton could go on a run if they can somehow make the tournament.


5) St. Johns (10-1, 69 NET) – St. Johns should have scheduled better. 5 games against teams outside the top 300 is just bad scheduling. Syracuse being terrible wasn’t their fault, but Florida State is a must win now. This will hurt their seeding. Their only loss was to an Iowa State team that got some serious home cooking from the officials.

I like the starting 5. Jones is very good, and Curbelo, Alexander, Soriano and Mathis is a good starting lineup. It is hard to play Anderson’s style without going to the bench more, which probably means the bench is not that good since Anderson is not using them. KenPom AdjD is 33, which is good. The advanced defensive and offensive stats are all solid. Stylistically, I think they overdo it on penetration. Sometimes an open jumper is a good shot, and they got to get defenses to leave the paint. Iowa State had at least 3 defenders with a foot in the paint during most of that game. You don’t expect to see that in D1 men’s basketball.


6) Villanova (5-5, 112 NET) – 5 losses is a problem, especially because some of those losses were to mediocre opponents. 3 of the losses (Temple, Oregon, Portland) were to teams that already have 5 losses themselves. One positive is that KenPom has them with the 12th most efficient offense, and that is with Whitmore only playing 3 games. It is Villanova, so they have some players that can shoot, but the advanced defense stats are pretty bad, with Dixon, Daniels, Arcidiacono and Armstrong all under water on Defense plus/minus. The defensive eFG of 53% is 269 in D1 per KenPom. That is a terrible number. It is hard to pin down exactly what it is, but Neptune reminds me of Travis Steele. He doesn’t project the attitude or behavior of a big time coach. He looks scared on the sidelines, and his players have to see it. Defense is about technique and energy, and confidence, and Villanova’s defensive stats are terrible against mediocre competition. The team doesn’t look like they think they will win.

This team has talent and might shoot its way to a few nice wins, but it has to stop teams or it will go .500 or worse in Big East play and be struggling to make the NIT.


7) Seton Hall (5-4, 90 NET) – They pulled off a miracle win against Memphis and won a rock fight with Rutgers. They got blown out by Iowa, Oklahoma and Kansas, which hurts their computer rankings.

The Hall is the mirror image of Villanova, with good defense (33 in KenPom) and bad offense (113). Watching this team play defense, they are ferocious without fouling. They have great technique and never let up, even off the ball. On offense, they are a mess. How many long contested pullups did they take against Rutgers? 15? That is a lot of wasted possessions against a P6 opponent. They don’t pass the ball well, and their drives are suicide missions into the teeth of the defense.

Holloway is building a mid-major program in the Big East, and it won’t be successful. He can’t play small ball with this team. Richmond, Dawes, Harris and Odukale are taking a lot of shots and they suck at shooting, especially with all the contested shots they take. Holloway needs to implement a traditional low post offense because Samuel, Jackson and Davis are three of the best players on his team, but they are not outside shooters and they are not getting the ball enough. He also needs to turn off the green light on some of the guards' shots.


8) Butler (8-3, 51 NET) – 61 offense, 78 defense, which feels about right. Matta has brought in two transfers, Bates and Hunter, that were needed, because Jordan didn’t leave a lot to work with. Bates could be a second or third team All-Big East if he got the ball more. He is really good, and I am surprised that NC State let him go. I like Taylor. Harris and Lukosius are OK. The bench is not great, and Matta barely uses it at all. He hasn’t coached in a while, and this is how a lot of coaches used to run their teams, but this won’t work for a whole season anymore. Someone will go down if Matta keeps overplaying the starting 5, and when that happens, it will take the NIT completely off the table for the Bulldogs. The weird thing is that the deep stats for Thomas or Hughes are not terrible for bench players. Both should be playing over 20 minutes a game.

This is still not a lot of athleticism on this team, and I think they will really struggle against uptemp styles like St. Johns.


9) Providence (8-3, 100) – Their O/D efficiency numbers (40/112) are not bad, but that doesn’t tell the whole story considering the weak schedule they played. Cooley has been building his teams the last couple of years off mid-major transfers and guys that couldn’t cut it on major conference rosters. He got lucky last year, but this year’s team looks like a team built off mid-major transfers and guys that couldn’t cut it on major conference rosters. PC has played two major conference opponents, and neither game was close, and TCU and Miami are not powerhouses. 7 of their wins are over teams outside the Top 270 in NET. PC’s best win is a 1 point win over Rider. This preseason schedule shouts of a team about to get killed in conference.

Bynum is the only guy that has proven it against good competition, but he seems to have declined dramatically this season. The rest of the team didn’t have much resume coming in and is padding stats against bad opponents. Hopkins or Croswell may be good, or maybe they are the best players on a bottom P6 conference squad and someone has to score.

The only reason PC is even this high is because Cooley is a good coach that squeezes every win out of whatever talent he has, but this may be the least talented roster in the Big East.


10) Depaul (6-4, 143) – O/D is 63/154. This is a mid-major team in the Big East. Jones was a huge loss, and the guys that were brought in are decent, but not good enough to make much noise in the conference. Johnson returns and is the leading scorer. Gibson is a high volume shooter. Neither suck, but there isn't a guy on this roster that I look at and think "I really wish UConn had THAT guy". They are a surprisingly poor rebounding team for one that has a lot of size. I do like the way this team plays, which is why I am predicting a team this bad to get 4 wins in conference. I think they will surprise a couple of times.


11) Georgetown (5-6, 245) – Everything about this team is bad, so there is not point in diving into the deep stats. The only reason I don’t predict them to go winless is that Spears and Wahab are not bad, and the overall starting lineup is not terrible. They should get lucky once or twice and beat someone.


Projection of Big East records:

UConn 18-2
Xavier 16-4
Marquette 15-5
Creighton 14-6
St. Johns 11-9
Villanova 10-10
Seton Hall 8-12
Butler 8-12
Providence 5-15
Depaul 4-16
Georgetown 1-19

The Top 5 would go to the NCAA and Villanova and Butler would go to the NIT.

I thought my most provocative prediction was Providence going 5-15. I am a little surprised there has not been much of a reaction to it.

I think Providence just sucks this year.
 
Aren’t we currently 2-6 v. the top half of our league?

Need to get hot at the right time to win this. It’s been done before that way.
Everything kinda goes out the window on a neutral court. We just blasted the team in sole possession of first place by 20 points a week ago.
 
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To be fair of the top four seeded teams they are probably the team that worries me the most in terms of matchups. My opinion may change, or not depending on the game coming up at home.

Creighton and Marquette, UConn has beaten and played close on the road. X has Freemantle either not back or just coming back.

PC is a good team, though they crapped the bed OOC which will kill their seeding and hurt their chances of having an easier road in the NCAAT.

I actually like Providence if they would cut out the hack, flop and flail nonsense and just play hoops. That stuff helps them a little at home, but doesn’t play with referees on the road, and will be the reason Providence gets bounced early from the NCAA Tournament.
 
I don't think that we're the favorites. Wouldn't even be slightly surprised if we lost to Xavier, Marquette, Creighton, or Providence in the BET. I don't think there is any doubt that Xavier is better than us. The other 3 are debatable, but like I said wouldn't surprise me at all if we lost to any of these teams.
 
Took a bit of a gamble this year and bought tickets to the semifinals. We usually go on Thursday, but Friday works better with our schedules. Gonna be biting my nails in that quarterfinal game, although I'm looking forward to being in the building for a Friday night at the Garden either way.
 
I actually like Providence if they would cut out the hack, flop and flail nonsense and just play hoops. That stuff helps them a little at home, but doesn’t play with referees on the road, and will be the reason Providence gets bounced early from the NCAA Tournament.
Cooley felt the league was lacking a Pitt and decided to take up the mantle.
 
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I don't think that we're the favorites. Wouldn't even be slightly surprised if we lost to Xavier, Marquette, Creighton, or Providence in the BET. I don't think there is any doubt that Xavier is better than us. The other 3 are debatable, but like I said wouldn't surprise me at all if we lost to any of these teams.

When is Zach Freemantle returning for Xavier? How is Souley Boum’s ankle coming along?
 
When is Zach Freemantle returning for Xavier? How is Souley Boum’s ankle coming along?
Didn't even know they were out tbh. I only watch other BE teams when they play us. I know Xavier at full strength is better than we are though.
 
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At various points in the season I've thought any of the Top 5 teams were the best team in the league...it really is a season of runs/waves with these teams. MU being the only team not really having a bad run (but hopefully soon!!). Sure do wish X had gotten that win the other night.

I do think the computers overvalue Uconn a little and undervalue Provy both due to their OOC performances. Nova, with 2 proven BE players coming back real recently also throw their computer numbers out the window. Now, how good they will be is debatable with Longino and Moore but I know they will be better.
 
Took a bit of a gamble this year and bought tickets to the semifinals. We usually go on Thursday, but Friday works better with our schedules. Gonna be biting my nails in that quarterfinal game, although I'm looking forward to being in the building for a Friday night at the Garden either way.
Good luck.
 
I actually like Providence if they would cut out the hack, flop and flail nonsense and just play hoops. That stuff helps them a little at home, but doesn’t play with referees on the road, and will be the reason Providence gets bounced early from the NCAA Tournament.
Bitter and another prediction. Great stuff. You are the energizer bunny of bad takes.
 
Cooley felt the league was lacking a Pitt and decided to take up the mantle.

They don’t award style points. Providence is the defending regular season champions and are currently tied for 2nd. Whatever they’re doing is working. The goal is to win games, and that’s all that matters.
 
Watch out for Nova.
That season finale at their place is going to be as difficult as any road game UConn has had on their schedule this year. That game is their Senior Day game.
 
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