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ZooCougar said:
I don't think he said that it's impossible for them to win. What he said that winning like you are saying isn't a priority.
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I think he said "You just can't win there." I guess that's open to a lot of interpretation to what that means.

Service academy life is only "prison like" if you don't have a desire, calling, whatever corny description you want to give, about actually wanting that kind of lifestyle.

All I know about the USMA is what my old friend used to tell me when he was there, and one of the things that really stands out to me to this day so many years later, is one phone call we had as new guys in each of our new homes out of high school. He was shocked at being around so many guys that really liked their rifles and were intent on using them, and couldn't wait to graduate so that they could use them. This was our first week respectively out of high school. He was there to be an officer and play football, and serve his country. He wanted the discipline and the lifestyle, but his direct quote to me that I can still hear so many years later: "There are a lot of guys here that really just want to kill people." Different breed than that USNA, for sure. My buddy nearly left in that first month, didn't fit in, but he got adjusted and served well. Maybe they need their recruits at the USMA to be pounded into submission so that they won't just want to kill people. Who knows.

All I know is that they lost to Navy - again. 12 times in a row. It's past embarrassing to pathetic now.
 
Carl Spackler said:
I think he said "You just can't win there." I guess that's open to a lot of interpretation to what that means.

Service academy life is only "prison like" if you don't have a desire, calling, whatever corny description you want to give, about actually wanting that kind of lifestyle.

All I know about the USMA is what my old friend used to tell me when he was there, and one of the things that really stands out to me to this day so many years later, is one phone call we had as new guys in each of our new homes out of high school. He was shocked at being around so many guys that really liked their rifles and were intent on using them, and couldn't wait to graduate so that they could use them. This was our first week respectively out of high school. He was there to be an officer and play football, and serve his country. He wanted the discipline and the lifestyle, but his direct quote to me that I can still hear so many years later: "There are a lot of guys here that really just want to kill people." Different breed than that USNA, for sure. My buddy nearly left in that first month, didn't fit in, but he got adjusted and served well. Maybe they need their recruits at the USMA to be pounded into submission so that they won't just want to kill people. Who knows.

All I know is that they lost to Navy - again. 12 times in a row. It's past embarrassing to pathetic now.
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Almost nothing in this post makes sense.
 
Jim Grobe is interested in the job. He's a good fit, but it would be another old coach there. They could use some young blood.
 
Carl Spackler said:
Service academy life is only "prison like" if you don't have a desire, calling, whatever corny description you want to give, about actually wanting that kind of lifestyle.quote]
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I had "desire, calling, whatever corny description," you want to call it but it still felt like prison at times. I sound very condescending saying this but there's no way else to describe it, unless you have gone there, there truly is no way to really describe the feeling/experience. Don't get me wrong there were some great and truly memorable moments, and yes I'd go back if I had to do it all over again, but I'm 38 years old and I (and a bunch of my classmates and teammates) still get that sick feeling when I get within 10 miles of that place. Feels like heading back for Sunday Night Formation after a weekend of freedom. It is unique in ways that really cannot be described. Feinstein's "Civil War" in my eyes comes the closest to capturing that "uniqueness."
 
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Whale22 said:
I had "desire, calling, whatever corny description," you want to call it but it still felt like prison at times. I sound very condescending saying this but there's no way else to describe it, unless you have gone there, there truly is no way to really describe the feeling/experience. Don't get me wrong there were some great and truly memorable moments, and yes I'd go back if I had to do it all over again, but I'm 38 years old and I (and a bunch of my classmates and teammates) still get that sick feeling when I get within 10 miles of that place. Feels like heading back for Sunday Night Formation after a weekend of freedom. It is unique in ways that really cannot be described. Feinstein's "Civil War" in my eyes comes the closest to capturing that "uniqueness."
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I'm assuming you mean WP. I've gotten more personal here than I care to and I thank all of you for your service. I'll just say I have different experience. I've always liked the Ocean. It's like momma to me and I feel real good every time I get close. :-)
 
Carl Spackler said:
I'm assuming you mean WP. I've gotten more personal here than I care to and I thank all of you for your service. I'll just say I have different experience. I've always liked the Ocean. It's like momma to me and I feel real good every time I get close. :)
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Your personal experience serving consists of? Talking to your buddies?
 
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