Arizona Post Game Thread

[Marat]

The more I think about the game, the more I am piss*d off today. Even without Reed, we could have won the game after taking the lead with minutes to go. Solo's shot was not a great decision that stopped the momentum, but it could have brought down the house. In any case, I think Silas needs to play more aggressive on offense and try to take over more. I think he has that dog in him, that Cam Spencer fire, ... Who agrees ?

 

[Deepster]

I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.

I made my point in one sentence in my first reply. God bless you.

Right.

"Anyway, if you were genuinely curious… one could list a few reasonable excuses while not acting like it won’t happen again and be frustrated that a winnable game slipped away and confident UConn is a national championship contender this year.

Make any combination or isolation of those clauses and we’re in double digit “camps”, not including the two you wrote down while still using your own limiting terms. Factor in general freethinking and we’re at literally infinity."

Sure. Literal infinity. We could have been winning last with 2 seconds left to play and the earth opened up swallowing both teams. Re-read the posts from the first 20 pages and 99% of them fall into my two categories.

 

[HW611]

Nah, Jordan got very serious about weight training after the Pistons beat him up and heavy lifting was a huge part of his training.

Jordan was also not known as a shooter. He did that to drive to the rim more (something Solo also worked on this summer so maybe that was the priority)

You know who stayed skinny his whole career? Reggie Miller.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

He's not lifting to bulk up or to cut and that stuff is really done in the kitchen. He's not a bodybuilder or a physique competitor. He lifts to get stronger and to be more explosive. He's not going to get too bulky from doing low rep benching/squats/whatever else as opposed to high rep and there's no such thing as lifting to get lean. That's not how it works. He should always be lifting heavy whether it's low reps or high reps.

This is like strength training 101 so I'm not shocked at who is arguing against it.

 

[HW611]

He's not lifting to bulk up or to cut and that stuff is really done in the kitchen. He's not a bodybuilder or a physique competitor. He lifts to get stronger and to be more explosive. He's not going to get too bulky from doing low rep benching/squats/whatever else as opposed to high rep and there's no such thing as lifting to get lean. That's not how it works. He should always be lifting heavy whether it's low reps or high reps.

This board has to be trolling me at this point. Only explanation.

 

[Excalibur]

Jordan was also not known as a shooter. He did that to drive to the rim more (something Solo also worked on this summer so maybe that was the priority)

You know who stayed skinny his whole career? Reggie Miller.

Jordan wasn't known as a 3 point shooter, but he was probably the best shooter ever out to 20 feet.

 

[Mr. French]

Jordan was also not known as a shooter. He did that to drive to the rim more (something Solo also worked on this summer so maybe that was the priority)

You know who stayed skinny his whole career? Reggie Miller.

Not known as a shooter but as he got stronger he didn’t get worse as a shooter.

This just isn’t an issue in any way unless Solo was becoming a bodybuilder.

I’m not trying to insult, there’s just nothing to this argument. The team does not have him lifting to the point it would negatively hurt his shooting. It’s just not the issue.

 

[thekollieman]

Right.

"Anyway, if you were genuinely curious… one could list a few reasonable excuses while not acting like it won’t happen again and be frustrated that a winnable game slipped away and confident UConn is a national championship contender this year.

Make any combination or isolation of those clauses and we’re in double digit “camps”, not including the two you wrote down while still using your own limiting terms. Factor in general freethinking and we’re at literally infinity."

Sure. Literal infinity. We could have been winning last with 2 seconds left to play and the earth opened up swallowing both teams. Re-read the posts from the first 20 pages and 99% of them fall into my two categories.

I understood what you meant. I’m sorry you didn’t understand what I meant. Maybe that’s my fault. Maybe not. No hard feelings.

 

[HW611]

Not known as a shooter but as he got stronger he didn’t get worse as a shooter.

This just isn’t an issue in any way unless Solo was becoming a bodybuilder.

I’m not trying to insult, there’s just nothing to this argument. The team does not have him lifting to the point it would negatively hurt his shooting. It’s just not the issue.

I love how I can link an article where the greatest shooter ever recognizes the theory and everyone can act like it's not a thing because I'm saying it.

Gotta be trolling.

 

[Lafayette]

Probably Hurley will not start Mullins immediately. He will come in from the bench., like he did with Reed initially, but for a few more games.

IDK for everything I've seen (his HS games, U19) read (247, ESPN NBA draft positions predictions, Hurley comments, CBS and other youtube comments) he is the real deal.

I suspect he won't play vs Bryant (don't need him), and may not play vs Illinois. Maybe Kansas, Maybe Florida.

 

[Lafayette]

I love how I can link an article where the greatest shooter ever recognizes the theory and everyone can act like it's not a thing because I'm saying it.

Gotta be trolling.

No, not trolling. Just not a valid argument. No one on the coaching staff is letting Solo's weight training affect his shot. No way. Nutrition, weight training, sleep patterns, all that stuff is seriously undertaken by professionals (sports physiologists, medically backed nutritionists) who are held accountable.

 

[HW611]

No, not trolling. Just not a valid argument. No one on the coaching staff is letting Solo's weight training affect his shot. No way. Nutrition, weight training, sleep patterns, all that stuff is seriously undertaken by professionals (sports physiologists, medically backed nutritionists) who are held accountable.

Saying the coaching staff took the proper steps in weight training is different than completely disregarded the theory itself not being a thing.

From what I gather, people are saying it doesn't exist. Despite the greatest shooter ever recognizing it in print and saying how he works around it.

 

[StllH8L8ner]

No, not trolling. Just not a valid argument. No one on the coaching staff is letting Solo's weight training affect his shot. No way. Nutrition, weight training, sleep patterns, all that stuff is seriously undertaken by professionals (sports physiologists, medically backed nutritionists) who are held accountable.

Solo is probably lifting and shooting a couple hundred shots right after. At least that’s how mediocre college players like myself did it and it didn’t effect my game one bit when I checked in up by 30.

Now if you don’t play for a few years and get swoll, that will effect how the weight of the ball feels and effect your shot more. Which is why I retired from everything aside from shooting in my driveway and playing golf.

 

[BGesus4]

As great as it is to debate Ball’s physique, it’s going to be much less interesting when he inevitably starts lighting it up from behind the arc…I mean he’s gotten so bulky that his midrange shot has become absolutely deadly

 

[RuffRuff]

Interesting take on the crowd from a Duke fan who attended the game. We need some real student traditions.

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• Yesterday at 10:03 PM
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Reporting from behind enemy lines after attending the Top 5 matchup between UConn and Arizona:

1) Koa Peat is the real deal. His NBA level athleticism is clear every time he touches the ball. It wouldn’t surprise me if he ends up a dark horse NPOY candidate.

2) UConn was missing its starting center Taris Reed, and while the freshmen backup Eric Priebe had a nice game in the box score the reality was starkly different. He was a non factor on the glass, a liability defensively, and (most critically) was not a part of the offense at all, to the point UConn was often essentially playing 4 on 5. Zona was able to play some of the most exaggerated drop coverage on screens I’ve ever seen, and as a result UConn had very few easy buckets at the rim. I don’t believe Reed is out long term, but whether or not he can stay on the court 30 mpg on a regular basis could dictate the Huskies’ ceiling.

3) UConn was also still without their star freshman Braylon Mullins. It feels like Husky fan think he could follow a Jayson Tatum like trajectory (starting the season late but being a star by March). It certainly felt like UConn was missing a piece offensively beyond the center position, and Mullins could be it.

4) Preempting the inevitable “do the Crazies still have it” discussion… there was NO COMPARISON between Storrs in a Top 5 matchup and Cameron in a remotely competitive game. The students were barely a factor in the first half and the volume only got close (but not that close!) to Cameron levels in a few isolated moments. The fact that our student section does what it does THE WHOLE GAME makes Cameron special, even if we all want to say it was better when we were there

 

[BGesus4]

Interesting take on the crowd from a Duke fan who attended the game. We need some real student traditions.

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scottdude8​

Moderator, front page and podcast contributor​

• Yesterday at 10:03 PM
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• #35

Reporting from behind enemy lines after attending the Top 5 matchup between UConn and Arizona:

1) Koa Peat is the real deal. His NBA level athleticism is clear every time he touches the ball. It wouldn’t surprise me if he ends up a dark horse NPOY candidate.

2) UConn was missing its starting center Taris Reed, and while the freshmen backup Eric Priebe had a nice game in the box score the reality was starkly different. He was a non factor on the glass, a liability defensively, and (most critically) was not a part of the offense at all, to the point UConn was often essentially playing 4 on 5. Zona was able to play some of the most exaggerated drop coverage on screens I’ve ever seen, and as a result UConn had very few easy buckets at the rim. I don’t believe Reed is out long term, but whether or not he can stay on the court 30 mpg on a regular basis could dictate the Huskies’ ceiling.

3) UConn was also still without their star freshman Braylon Mullins. It feels like Husky fan think he could follow a Jayson Tatum like trajectory (starting the season late but being a star by March). It certainly felt like UConn was missing a piece offensively beyond the center position, and Mullins could be it.

4) Preempting the inevitable “do the Crazies still have it” discussion… there was NO COMPARISON between Storrs in a Top 5 matchup and Cameron in a remotely competitive game. The students were barely a factor in the first half and the volume only got close (but not that close!) to Cameron levels in a few isolated moments. The fact that our student section does what it does THE WHOLE GAME makes Cameron special, even if we all want to say it was better when we were there

You really are a masochist huh?

 

[Mr. French]

I love how I can link an article where the greatest shooter ever recognizes the theory and everyone can act like it's not a thing because I'm saying it.

Gotta be trolling.

You think you linking to an article about curry lifting PROPERLY proves your point over mine? I dno man.

 

[Hunt for 7]

I dno if this is directed at me, but you quoted me.

I have played, trained, lifted, coached. I dno what you’re saying in this whole thing, we’re discussing lifting affecting your shot.

Not directed at you I was just saying that it is normal that part of a players game suffers when you focus on improving a significant weakness. It was more about why I think Ball is not shooting as well. I don’t think it has anything to do with lifting I just think he is now thinking more when he gets the ball and instead of just thinking about let me get open for a three he is looking at what his options are now instead of just hunting a three point shot.

Apologies if it came across the wrong way.

 

[Mr. French]

Saying the coaching staff took the proper steps in weight training is different than completely disregarded the theory itself not being a thing.

From what I gather, people are saying it doesn't exist. Despite the greatest shooter ever recognizing it in print and saying how he works around it.

NO ONE SAID THIS I GET WHY YOURE ALWAYS CONFUSED

 

[auror]

Interesting take on the crowd from a Duke fan who attended the game. We need some real student traditions.

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scottdude8​

Moderator, front page and podcast contributor​

• Yesterday at 10:03 PM
• 
  
• #35

Reporting from behind enemy lines after attending the Top 5 matchup between UConn and Arizona:

1) Koa Peat is the real deal. His NBA level athleticism is clear every time he touches the ball. It wouldn’t surprise me if he ends up a dark horse NPOY candidate.

2) UConn was missing its starting center Taris Reed, and while the freshmen backup Eric Priebe had a nice game in the box score the reality was starkly different. He was a non factor on the glass, a liability defensively, and (most critically) was not a part of the offense at all, to the point UConn was often essentially playing 4 on 5. Zona was able to play some of the most exaggerated drop coverage on screens I’ve ever seen, and as a result UConn had very few easy buckets at the rim. I don’t believe Reed is out long term, but whether or not he can stay on the court 30 mpg on a regular basis could dictate the Huskies’ ceiling.

3) UConn was also still without their star freshman Braylon Mullins. It feels like Husky fan think he could follow a Jayson Tatum like trajectory (starting the season late but being a star by March). It certainly felt like UConn was missing a piece offensively beyond the center position, and Mullins could be it.

4) Preempting the inevitable “do the Crazies still have it” discussion… there was NO COMPARISON between Storrs in a Top 5 matchup and Cameron in a remotely competitive game. The students were barely a factor in the first half and the volume only got close (but not that close!) to Cameron levels in a few isolated moments. The fact that our student section does what it does THE WHOLE GAME makes Cameron special, even if we all want to say it was better when we were there

2 is a good insight, but he has the chicken and egg wrong for not a part of the offense. They didn't play that way because of Reibe, it was their game plan regardless and it made Reibe more impactful ironically. He doesn't score 15 if they play differently. He was playing within the flow of the offense doing what he was supposed to do.

 

[gtcam]

2 is a good insight, but he has the chicken and egg wrong for not a part of the offense. They didn't play that way because of Reibe, it was their game plan regardless and it made Reibe more impactful ironically. He doesn't score 15 if they play differently. He was playing within the flow of the offense doing what he was supposed to do.

It's a Dukie, they aren't always right?????????????????????????????????

 

[aboogieee]

Has the team run the horns skip set yet? I don’t recall seeing it so far, but I’d love to see it once Mullins returns.

 

[RuffRuff]

The more I think about the game, the more I am piss*d off today. Even without Reed, we could have won the game after taking the lead with minutes to go. Solo's shot was not a great decision that stopped the momentum, but it could have brought down the house. In any case, I think Silas needs to play more aggressive on offense and try to take over more. I think he has that dog in him, that Cam Spencer fire, ... Who agrees ?

Silas tried to wrestle the ball away from a much bigger Peat, yeah I think he has some Cam in him. He is the guy I'd want with the ball in a big spot. He had a chance last night, but threw it away. It happens.

And of course we could have won - we were up 64-63 with 1:15 to go. We could not execute offensively at all in that last two minutes. The killer defensively was Krivas getting that loose ball offensive rebound through Stewart. That put back put them up 65-64. We get that, we are up 1, can take the clock down to about 38 seconds. We somehow score there, 3 pt shooting isn't their strength. That was the bucket that felt like it swung a bit - and just a boneheaded play as the ball was right there to snag.

 

[bendm]

3) UConn was also still without their star freshman Braylon Mullins. It feels like Husky fan think he could follow a Jayson Tatum like trajectory (starting the season late but being a star by March). It certainly felt like UConn was missing a piece offensively beyond the center position, and Mullins could be it.

How about a Steph castle like trajectory? He missed 6 games and was a star by January (altho I forgot he did play in the first 2 games of the season before getting hurt)

 

[imno1]

Can someone explain to me how Alex got bigger and stronger ( thru strength training) but is now shooting 61% from 3. 😊