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UConn's likely top remaining target for 2022, KK Bransford, has defensive skills at multiple positions. None of the other known targets for '22 and '23 really stick out as perimeter defenders. Certainly a couple in the '24 class though.

I've read in more than one place that Fudd has defensive skills. Everyone correctly raves about her shooting/scoring but she herself said she takes pride in her defense and Geno has recently said that she is the most complete player he ever saw coming out of high school. She may be an inch or so shorter than Bueckers but her physique is way more college-ready than Bueckers' was last year.
 
I've read in more than one place that Fudd has defensive skills. Everyone correctly raves about her shooting/scoring but she herself said she takes pride in her defense and Geno has recently said that she is the most complete player he ever saw coming out of high school. She may be an inch or so shorter than Bueckers but her physique is way more college-ready than Bueckers' was last year.
And before people bring up her knees, remember Gabby Williams tore her ACL in high school, but showed no sign of injury in college and went on to be named a National Defensive POY.
 
Azzi is a solid all-around player, defense included. She also has a good handle and court vision. She's a mentally tough, well coached player who does everything well. Those things alone would make her a highly coveted player. What sets her apart is that she could be the greatest shooter ever. The combo got her 2 NPOY awards in 10th grade.
 
I agree, but we also really need a big who can score against a big and possibly get her in foul trouble. Liv has not been able to score much when facing other big girls. But with Geno bringing in great shooters, that should open up things inside a bit. Who knows. I’d love another big transfer with experience, can’t hurt anything.
I agree, I think that extra big is all we are missing. ONO doesn’t play well when we need her too. She plays nervous. GA knows he needs another option because AE can’t do it alone. No offense to ONO we just can’t afford to trust her in those big games anymore. She’s had enough opportunities to step up. Defensively and rebounding she can hold her own but we need scoring from her. This young lady looks aggressive like AE and that’s what we need. I’ve watched Deberry play twice and she may turn out to be a great player for us, I dont think she will contribute much right away. The ONLY thing this team is without next year is another big that it good enough to help right now. My opinion she puts us over the top. Not because she’s some all American but because it’s another option for GA when Liv isn’t playing well.
 
Azzi is a solid all-around player, defense included. She also has a good handle and court vision. She's a mentally tough, well coached player who does everything well. Those things alone would make her a highly coveted player. What sets her apart is that she could be the greatest shooter ever. The combo got her 2 NPOY awards in 10th grade.
All true. But @MilfordHusky, people are going to need to see this kid to believe her. You and I have hyped this kid a lot (especially you), but the truth is the minute she hits the floor with Paige it'll be a new era in UConn BB. Just the idea, as I've said to you, of someone that can consistently hit that shot as the trail in transition and hit that weak side corner 3, both as KML used to do, changes UConn's offense. Along with Caroline Ducharme it will make teams less likely to press or trap on defense, make teams less likely to try to force UConn into a quarter court offense, and because of their FT shooting, less likely to put our guards on the line.
 
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All true. But @MilfordHusky , people are going to need to see this kid to believe her. You and I have hyped this kid a lot (especially you), but the truth is the minute she hits the floor with Paige it'll be a new era in UConn BB. Just the idea, as I've said to you, of someone that can consistently hit that shot as the trail in transition and hit that weak side corner 3, both as KML used to do, changes UConn's offense. Along with Caroline Ducharme it will make teams less likely to press or trap on defense, make teams less likely to try to force UConn into a quarter court offense, and because of their FT shooting, less likely to put our guards on the line.
My friend, you saw Azzi on a bad day. I saw her in full splash mode several times. Yep, she will do what Kaleena did and more. Defenses will have to pick their poison, which could be letting Liv go one-on-one in the paint or leaving Nika/Caroline/et al. open at the arc. I saw Georgetown Visitation try to play Azzi straight up in the 2019 City Championship game, and she torched them for 38 (still the arena record). Some shooting and scoring records will go by the wayside over the next 4 years. Not only can Azzi hit shots, but also Paige can find her in her sweet spots.
 
And before people bring up her knees, remember Gabby Williams tore her ACL in high school, but showed no sign of injury in college and went on to be named a National Defensive POY.
And because one person recovered from an injury, it does not mean another will in the same manner. I am certainly in no way commenting on anything regarding her injuries and wish the young lady an absolute complete recovery but it‘s somewhat ironic that many posters couldn’t get to their keyboards quick enough that Muhl shouldn’t start or even play because of her injury but Fudd’s should be beyond comment. I realize MUCH different circumstances with one being in-season but this idea that Bueckers, and now Fudd, should be SO GOOD as to be beyond discussion or anything resembling negativity or criticism rubs this old schooler the wrong way. Just one man’s opinion.
 
I agree, I think that extra big is all we are missing. ONO doesn’t play well when we need her too. She plays nervous. GA knows he needs another option because AE can’t do it alone. No offense to ONO we just can’t afford to trust her in those big games anymore. She’s had enough opportunities to step up. Defensively and rebounding she can hold her own but we need scoring from her. This young lady looks aggressive like AE and that’s what we need. I’ve watched Deberry play twice and she may turn out to be a great player for us, I dont think she will contribute much right away. The ONLY thing this team is without next year is another big that it good enough to help right now. My opinion she puts us over the top. Not because she’s some all American but because it’s another option for GA when Liv isn’t playing well.
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Why bang with Boston when you can pull her far away from the basket. Dorka would help others to get a more favorable driving lane. For being 6-4 she is capable of shooting at a 40% clip from three when the coaches make the 3 a priority. She is a very good rebounder as well. She is the second best talent available in the portal. Imagine the possibility of a 5-out offense with constant motion by various cutters and 4-5 3 point threats. There a bunch of scenarios where her style would be very beneficial.
Before we get too excited about a transfer from tOSU, it’s worth pointing out a few stats. This past season, Dorka shot 20% from the arc, 43% from the FT line with an A/TO ratio of 0.6. She’s no Ashten Prechtel who is 6’5”, shot 37% from the arc and was a key part of Stanford’s championship run.
 
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I would LOVE to see Dorka Juhasz in a UConn uniform next year. We've never had a player like her. (She seems more like a Stanford type.)

Having that size to stretch the defense...
 
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I think Dorka's numbers are pretty impressive, but her role could be as simple as a one year filler to let Amari ease into her role. This year we used a natural PF (Aaliyah) as Liv's backup, basically in a three big rotation with Aubrey playing pretty much at PF, Liv at C, and Aaliyah splitting time between the two.

Next year I assumed Amari would fill the backup C role, competing with Piath, and that one of the two was likely to be good enough to free up Aaliyah to be the starter at PF and not have to worry about backing up Liv. I think the odds of Amari being at least a way above average backup from the beginning is very good, but Dorka has three years of experience in a power 5 conference, making her more ready to play. All could compete for minutes but if Amari needs a year to grow in the system Dorka could fill that role for one year.
 
There's a price to be paid in thinking you need a player...and finding out you didn't. Look at Tennessee. They have a roster filled with players that they thought they needed...and now have no room for someone they actually could use. Every player that enters the portal...their fans want. Don't get there. It looks uncomfortable...and desperate. Uconn has a lot to work with already. Stay selective...while you can.
 
Actually, we already have a player like that. This past season Liv shot 27% from the arc. Dorka shot 20%.
Have you watched Dorka? She is nothing like Liv offensively. She is very polished around the basket and has an array of moves around the rim. I think she would help us immensely. I also think Olivia could have her best year next year. Her points may go down, but she would have a chance to set an APG record for a post player at UCONN. She is a great passer from the high post, she has a shot you have to honor from out there, which would drag defenses out, and open up the lane.

We won't see nearly as much zone next year as we have since Lou left.
 
If you compare career stats between Dorka Juhasz, Olivia Nelson Ododa, and Aliyah Boston:
[I'm not saying Dorka is better than either of these players just using them as a benchmark.]

Juhasz – 12.7ppg (47.6% FG, 29.4% (previously had incorrectly put 40%) 3FG, 55% FT) 12 rbg, 1.5 blocks a game, .7 assists per game
ONO 9ppg (50.4% FG, 18% 3FG, 55.6% FT) 6.4 rbg, 2 blocks a game, 1.9 assists per game.
Boston – 12.9ppg (55.4% FG, 20% 3FG, 74%) 10.3 rbg, 2.8 block a game, 1.3 assists per game. (has only played two seasons)

Obviously, team playing style matters when it comes to stats, but I'm not so sure Juhasz's stats are mediocre in comparison. It can also be argued Juhasz plays in a tougher conference than ONO (and based on tournament results, tougher than Boston). Juhasz also missed a month of play this past season with COVID and had her worst 3pt shooting season.

I think Juhasz will be a good pick-up for any team.

I did have a lazy mistake here. When reading the stats I mixed up post-Season and Regular Season. She shot 40% from three for her post-season career (Big Ten Tournaments) but is a 29.4 3FG in her career in the regular season. Her FT's are always a concern. She did play in a system at tOSU that had all players shooting multiple threes a game.

Ohio State's other bigs, Patty and Mikulasikova, each averaged 2 and 1.5 3FGA's a game last season. Patty 37.8% and Mikulasikova 18% (This dropped significantly from 48% the previous season). Dorka averaged 3.5 3FGA last season.

In comparison, Olivia averaged .7 3FGA this past season, 0 in the post season. Juhasz, if she does go to UConn, isn't going to be asked to take 3's unless Geno gives her the go ahead.

This could truly all be moot at the end of the day. She also follows UCLA Wbb on Twitter. Geno and Co. aren't going to take a player they don't think would mix well or provide a solution to a need.
 
Have you watched Dorka? She is nothing like Liv offensively. She is very polished around the basket and has an array of moves around the rim. I think she would help us immensely. I also think Olivia could have her best year next year. Her points may go down, but she would have a chance to set an APG record for a post player at UCONN. She is a great passer from the high post, she has a shot you have to honor from out there, which would drag defenses out, and open up the lane.

We won't see nearly as much zone next year as we have since Lou left.
I don’t know how good she looks, but I do know she only shot 20% from the arc and she’s a bad FT shooter at 43%. I get the fascination with her because she’s 6’4”. If I were defending her, I’d give her the 3, just like teams give Liv the 3 at a 27% make rate, and when Dorka has the ball in the paint, I’d foul her and force her to make FT’s. IMO, Dorka is not the answer. We need to develop the players we have first and foremost.
 
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ESPN says Patterson is uncommitted. When you look under UConn they show Brady as a commit and Rice as considering. They don't list Patterson as either. Has something changed? They are not this far behind usually. Maybe they just don't want to acknowledge our success here?
 
I think Dorka's numbers are pretty impressive, but her role could be as simple as a one year filler to let Amari ease into her role. This year we used a natural PF (Aaliyah) as Liv's backup, basically in a three big rotation with Aubrey playing pretty much at PF, Liv at C, and Aaliyah splitting time between the two.

Next year I assumed Amari would fill the backup C role, competing with Piath, and that one of the two was likely to be good enough to free up Aaliyah to be the starter at PF and not have to worry about backing up Liv. I think the odds of Amari being at least a way above average backup from the beginning is very good, but Dorka has three years of experience in a power 5 conference, making her more ready to play. All could compete for minutes but if Amari needs a year to grow in the system Dorka could fill that role for one year.
What you are suggesting potentially takes minutes away from Amari and UConn’s other Bigs with a player who shoots 48/20/43. While we all want Liv to pick up her game, it should be pointed out that this past season Liv shot 56/27/59.
 
ESPN says Patterson is uncommitted. When you look under UConn they show Brady as a commit and Rice as considering. They don't list Patterson as either. Has something changed? They are not this far behind usually. Maybe they just don't want to acknowledge our success here?
ESPN sometimes takes awhile to update their Hoopgurlz report. You can be assured that Ayanna has every intention of honoring her verbal to UConn, although it should be pointed out that nothing is official until the NLI is signed next fall.
 
ESPN says Patterson is uncommitted. When you look under UConn they show Brady as a commit and Rice as considering. They don't list Patterson as either. Has something changed? They are not this far behind usually. Maybe they just don't want to acknowledge our success here?
ESPN and ProspectsNation are usually slow on the update for some players. Nothing has changed on Patterson's end. Carleigh Wenzel committed to VATech back in February and she's still uncommitted on ESPN. PN does have Ayanna Patterson as a UConn commit. But doesn't have Lazaria Spearman as a Miami commit and she committed back in January.
 
I don’t know how good she looks, but I do know she only shot 20% from the arc and she’s a bad FT shooter at 43%. I get the fascination with her because she’s 6’4”. If I were defending her, I’d give her the 3, just like teams give Liv the 3 at a 27% make rate, and when Dorka has the ball in the paint, I’d foul her and force her to make FT’s. IMO, Dorka is not the answer. We need to develop the players we have first and foremost.

and that's not an aberration either. She was about 53% FT in the year before although she shot a very good 40% from 3. It is a little unusual to see a European player being a very poor FT shooter, I think.
 
What you are suggesting potentially takes minutes away from Amari and UConn’s other Bigs with a player who shoots 48/20/43. While we all want Liv to pick up her game, it should be pointed out that this past season Liv shot 56/27/59.
Gaudy numbers against substandard Big East competition (by and large).
If she hasn’t been able to peg that 8-12 ft shot by now, I’m not confident that she will in 21-22 season.
And I REALLY wish she would/could.
 
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Gaudy numbers against substandard Big East competition (by and large).
If she hasn’t been able to peg that 8-12 ft shot by now, I’m not confident that she will in 21-22 season.
And I REALLY wish she would/could.
Agreed, but the 27/59 3pt/FT % were basically uncontested shots against everyone vs Dorka’s 20/43 %, who we are comparing Liv to.
 
Thoughts on Liv: First thought is that I hope she is able to go to a 'Big' camp this summer along with Piath.

Second: Her development thru her first three years at UConn has been significant...especially on defense/shot-blocking/shot-altering. Offense...less so. I have [maybe stubbornly] hopes to see a nice step-up on that side of the game next season.

Third: she is around 20-21...correct? When you look at the games of players...UConn or otherwise...my bet is that rarely do you find a player who has peaked at 20-21. Just generally...when we read about players in the WNBA around 26-27..do we not say that they are approaching their prime basketball years? Maybe their prime is thru early 30's? If that is true...and I think it is for basketball and almost all other sports [maybe gymnastics is an exception], would it not be perfectly reasonable to think that LIv is nowhere near her peak years...and that next season will be the next step in that improvement?

Go Liv! For that matter Piath and Amari too!
 
Before we get too excited about a transfer from tOSU, it’s worth pointing out a few stats. This past season, Dorka shot 20% from the arc, 43% from the FT line with an A/TO ratio of 0.6. She’s no Ashten Prechtel who is 6’5”, shot 37% from the arc and was a key part of Stanford’s championship run.
You have to think though how much better she could be (really any player) under UConn’s staff. They develop players to really reach their full potential. And any player playing with a Paige Bueckers is automatically going to be better, she gets them easy shots and builds confidence for her teammates.
 
You have to think though how much better she could be (really any player) under UConn’s staff. They develop players to really reach their full potential. And any player playing with a Paige Bueckers is automatically going to be better, she gets them easy shots and builds confidence for her teammates.

So are you saying that Liv has reached her potential after 3 years of coaching? I actually like Liv, a pretty good defender, good passer, good rebounder and for a while late last year and earlier this year her shots were on a higher arc but for some reason, she has reverted back to a more line-drive shot later in this past season. Maybe it's a little thing that can be tweaked to get Liv back to where she can be.
 
I believe Dorka shot 40% from 3 last year on a goodly number of shots, so not a fluke. This year she collapsed down to the 20% range. A fall like that seems pretty unusual. Anyone know any reason for that, some injury? Pain in leg might affect when you jump off to shoot a 3? Just a season long slump????
 
Actually, we already have a player like that. This past season Liv shot 27% from the arc. Dorka shot 20%.
For some reason, I thought it was higher. Since you bring up ONO, I see that Juhasz gets more rebounds, playing in a better conference. I still believe she could help.
 
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