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PNolanFan said:
It really makes no sense. Look at Duke and Kansas, Duke is 1 spot ahead. They have the same record and Kansas has played 6 ranked teams and Duke has only played 2....... So same record and 1 team has played 6 elite opponents and the other has only played 2, someone please try to make it make sense
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Do you say this stuff just to say it, or do you legitimately not understand why Duke is ranked higher this week?
 
REB1094 said:
Top 5 feels right

Houston gained a #1 vote from last week. Weird

Wisconsin up 7 spots and Duke/Marquette up 5, but seems to be more of everybody else losing instead of them having huge wins

Iowa St up 11 spots, good for them

Creighton back into the top 15!

Is New Mexico legit? I’ll have to check them out

Memphis out, and out far. They’re 3rd out but they got 48 votes while #25 has 215
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New Mexico is a veteran team with three quick, smaller guards who can shoot and penetrate well. Eddie House's son (6') and Jamaal Mashburn's son (6'2") as well as Dent who is much improved this year (also 6'2") ...all have scored 25 in a game at least once this year. Their center is Junior Joseph who transferred in from Iona, who played against us last year. They have a freshman power forward who is 6'9", long and very active.
 
RichCTBB said:
Correction.....Gary Parrish doesn't vote in the AP....interesting though that Chris Murray has us 3rd
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Correct, Parrish does not vote in the AP Poll.

Here's his reasoning for voting Purdue 1 and UConn 2. I guess you can make some kind of case if you feel that way. But he's pretty complimentary of UConn.

"We were really overwhelmed," Xavier coach Sean Miller said following Sunday's 43-point loss to UConn, and boy was he right.

The Huskies won the first half by 26 and the second by 17. They shot 58.5% from the field and 58.6% from 3-point range while holding Xavier to 34.4% shooting. They. Were. Awesome. They. Are. Awesome. Which is why, as I've previously noted multiple times, I have no issue with UConn being No. 1 in the Associated Press Top 25 poll even though I do not have UConn No. 1 in the Top 25 And 1. The job Dan Hurley is doing is amazing, and he'd get my vote for National Coach of the Year right now because of the way he lost three of the top six scorers from a national championship team and immediately built another national championship contender.

Let the record show I'm a big believer in UConn — it's just that I'm also a big believer in Purdue, and that Purdue's body of work is slightly better than UConn's.

Slightly.

www.cbssports.com

College basketball rankings: Purdue and UConn keep rolling, but the Boilermakers' résumé is slightly better

It's close, but here's why Purdue is ahead of UConn in the CBS Sports Top 25 And 1
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com
 
7774 said:
Do you say this stuff just to say it, or do you legitimately not understand why Duke is ranked higher this week?
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I legitimately dont understand why Duke would be ranked ahead of Kansas when looking at their overall body of work. They have same record and i think Kansas has played a much harder schedule and also think Kansas has passed the eye test better as well. I am sure if I looked through bodies of work of other teams as well I would find other things that look like inconsistencies to me
 
Kansas arguably has the 3 best combination of wins of anyone in the nation (UConn, TN, Kentucky).

But they also have two of the worst losses: UCF and West Virginia.

Then again, Duke's best win is over Baylor and they have losses to Pitt, Georgia Tech, and Arkansas.

So...yeah IDK.

If it makes it any better, in coaches poll, Duke, KY, and KU are nearly tied for 7th (separated by 9 total pts)
 
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who cares????? We are the best team....by a mile. And these writers are gonna find that out in March.
 
Who knows what happened here because the document of record doesn't agree with what he published
 
UConnRock said:
Duke moves up 5 spots with a 1 point win at home win. I am just going from the eyeball test, but that is not a top 10 team, but it seems to be a pretty even field in the 5-15 ranking range and the ranking just depends on who loses during the week. There is huge separation between the top 4 (UConn, Purdue, Houston, UNC) and the rest of the field.
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I keep saying this. Every time we take care of business, while top 10 teams lose, we create more separation between ourselves and the #2/3 seed line.

It would take a lot for us to fall behind the Wisconsin/Duke/Auburn group of teams.
 
PNolanFan said:
I legitimately dont understand why Duke would be ranked ahead of Kansas when looking at their overall body of work. They have same record and i think Kansas has played a much harder schedule and also think Kansas has passed the eye test better as well. I am sure if I looked through bodies of work of other teams as well I would find other things that look like inconsistencies to me
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Because voters aren't starting from scratch every week. Duke won last week, while the teams ranked around them like Kansas lost so they moved up. This isn't like bracketology where voters are looking at resumes and blank slates every week, and certainly not down to the minutiae of 2 specific team's resumes
 
Mr. French said:
Wait…I didn’t even look, you’re telling me Duke moved up 5 spots?

They look … not good. Should have definitely lost to Clemson.
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That and they were sweating out their other win this week at Division 2 Louisville until about the last 2 minutes.
 
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PNolanFan said:
I legitimately dont understand why Duke would be ranked ahead of Kansas when looking at their overall body of work. They have same record and i think Kansas has played a much harder schedule and also think Kansas has passed the eye test better as well. I am sure if I looked through bodies of work of other teams as well I would find other things that look like inconsistencies to me
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Voters aren’t looking at the body of work. They’re moving teams down a few spots when they lose, depending upon how other teams around them in the rankings performed, and moving teams who were below them and didn’t lose up.

So the short answer to your question Is Kansas lost last week and Duke didn’t lose.
 
crazyUCfan23 said:
I got into an argument with another teacher in the lounge today because he said we were overrated and were gonna lose to SJ on Saturday. When he said "overrated" I lost it and obliterated him then he left the room. Everybody else was laughing.
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Did he come back and put you in your place by pointing out how talented Indiana is?
 
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I don't know how you guys watch CBB and see how all these teams lose on the road, have bad losses sprinkled on their schedule, and see the lack of separation in talent levels and argue over teams ranked past the top 8/9 or so. Alot of these teams are basically the same.
 
HooperScooper said:
Correct, Parrish does not vote in the AP Poll.

Here's his reasoning for voting Purdue 1 and UConn 2. I guess you can make some kind of case if you feel that way. But he's pretty complimentary of UConn.

"We were really overwhelmed," Xavier coach Sean Miller said following Sunday's 43-point loss to UConn, and boy was he right.

The Huskies won the first half by 26 and the second by 17. They shot 58.5% from the field and 58.6% from 3-point range while holding Xavier to 34.4% shooting. They. Were. Awesome. They. Are. Awesome. Which is why, as I've previously noted multiple times, I have no issue with UConn being No. 1 in the Associated Press Top 25 poll even though I do not have UConn No. 1 in the Top 25 And 1. The job Dan Hurley is doing is amazing, and he'd get my vote for National Coach of the Year right now because of the way he lost three of the top six scorers from a national championship team and immediately built another national championship contender.

Let the record show I'm a big believer in UConn — it's just that I'm also a big believer in Purdue, and that Purdue's body of work is slightly better than UConn's.

Slightly.

www.cbssports.com

College basketball rankings: Purdue and UConn keep rolling, but the Boilermakers' résumé is slightly better

It's close, but here's why Purdue is ahead of UConn in the CBS Sports Top 25 And 1
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com
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That’s a perfectly rational argument, and it’s hardly crazy to have Purdue as 1 and us as 2. It depends on what you value in ranking, and there is plenty of arbitrariness that is part of the process.

That having been said, if we play Purdue on a neutral court this week I can’t say I’m worried about our chances.
 
Doom going up 5 is crazy, they shouldnt have survived Clemson. Now I disliked St. John’s before Pitino, always have. Their fans are obnoxious. He’s made inflammatory comments and is trying to create a rivalry, a hostile environment. Clingan didn’t play in game one but Johnson had 16 points in his best outing. I want us to beat them, and send Pitino skulking home.
 
aceboon said:
I don't know how you guys watch CBB and see how all these teams lose on the road, have bad losses sprinkled on their schedule, and see the lack of separation in talent levels and argue over teams ranked past the top 8/9 or so. Alot of these teams are basically the same.
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They don't. At least not with a reasonable lens.
 
jibsey said:
Doom going up 5 is crazy, they shouldnt have survived Clemson. Now I disliked St. John’s before Pitino, always have. Their fans are obnoxious. He’s made inflammatory comments and is trying to create a rivalry, a hostile environment. Clingan didn’t play in game one but Johnson had 16 points in his best outing. I want us to beat them, and send Pitino skulking home.
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I want to beat every team we play.

I want especially to beat every team we play that has a winning record against us. In the Big East that's:

1. Villanova (35-38)
2. St. John's (32-36)
3. Creighton (2-6)

We are tied with Marquette (8-8) and have a one game lead on Xavier (5-4) and Georgetown (37-36).
 
tzznandrew said:
I want to beat every team we play.

I want especially to beat every team we play that has a winning record against us. In the Big East that's:

1. Villanova (35-38)
2. St. John's (32-36)
3. Creighton (2-6)

We are tied with Marquette (8-8) and have a one game lead on Xavier (5-4) and Georgetown (37-36).
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I can live with the records against the old school Big East teams. We'll turn those records right side up soon. It's Cretin (and Marquette to a lesser extent) that drive me crazy.
 
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87Xfer said:
I can live with the records against the old school Big East teams. We'll turn those records right side up soon. It's Cretin (and Marquette to a lesser extent) that drive me crazy.
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We had caught Villanova, but then they beat us 5 straight.

We've been steadily gaining on St. John's, but were very far behind them.
 
That’s crazy it’s been so long since they have been good. I wonder if we won any games against St Johns during the first 5 or 6 Big East seasons. So I checked. We split in season first year then they won 18 games in a row. Did not beat them from 81 to 89 seasons. They won 19 of the first 20 big east games we played against them.
 
SilentDog said:
That’s crazy it’s been so long since they have been good. I wonder if we won any games against St Johns during the first 5 or 6 Big East seasons. So I checked. We split in season first year then they won 18 games in a row. Did not beat them from 81 to 89 seasons. They won 19 of the first 20 big east games we played against them.
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Also, UConn never won on St. John's home court whether it was Alumni Court or MSG until 1994 when Donyell Marshall hit 20 for 20 on FTs.
 
87Xfer said:
I can live with the records against the old school Big East teams. We'll turn those records right side up soon. It's Cretin (and Marquette to a lesser extent) that drive me crazy.
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Yeah I don't care too much about the all time records either. I know how awful UConn was before the 1990 Dream Season sans the 1988 NIT team. The Dom Perno years were regrettable and forgettable for the most part as well as Calhoun's first 2 years where he had the gargantuan task of getting UConn out of a canyon sized ditch.

Having said that, I hated UConn being 0-5 all time vs. Cretin in the first 2 seasons. Now that they have beaten them twice handily in Gampel and almost beat them in Omaha (should've IMO) I feel a lot better. I would like them to sweep Cretin this year.
 
Not sure where to post this but watching Houston vs Texas. Houston’s defense is the real deal. This looks like it could be a good game. On track for a game in the 50’s for both teams. So it could stay close. Let’s go Texas!
 
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