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Im curious what most voters would say makes us #18 and Nova #11. Same record, and Nova's best wins are probably us, PC, and Tennessee. Our best wins are Auburn, Nova, and probably Marquette on the road. In any event, our top two wins are against more highly ranked teams than theirs. Is it just a higher early season ranking that's keeping them that much ahead of us?
 
UConnSwag11 said:
The country will see soon enough if they're frauds or not
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since the frauds just beat creighton by 20, how much should we beat them by? also 20? since we're better than the frauds but this game will be at creighton?
 
WNConn said:
Im curious what most voters would say makes us #18 and Nova #11. Same record, and Nova's best wins are probably us, PC, and Tennessee. Our best wins are Auburn, Nova, and probably Marquette on the road. In any event, our top two wins are against more highly ranked teams than theirs. Is it just a higher early season ranking that's keeping them that much ahead of us?
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nova played a gauntlet of a non-conference schedule, which is why they have 7 losses. their resume is definitely better than ours at the moment, although i agree that we are underrated.
 
4xChamps said:
Borzello puts those together and he is an AP voter so that’s probably his ranking unless he includes other factors in these power ranks
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How does Gonzaga stay at #1 after getting manhandled by St Mary’s?
 
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WNConn said:
Im curious what most voters would say makes us #18 and Nova #11. Same record, and Nova's best wins are probably us, PC, and Tennessee. Our best wins are Auburn, Nova, and probably Marquette on the road. In any event, our top two wins are against more highly ranked teams than theirs. Is it just a higher early season ranking that's keeping them that much ahead of us?
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Poll inertia is a real thing so that's part of it, but they also won @ Xavier, @ PC, and @ Seton Hall which more than cancels out our win @ Marq
elmcityboy said:
nova played a gauntlet of a non-conference schedule, which is why they have 7 losses. their resume is definitely better than ours at the moment, although i agree that we are underrated.
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They played a tough non-con but they also lost all of them except for Tenn. You shouldn't get credit for that if you don't win.
 
WNConn said:
Im curious what most voters would say makes us #18 and Nova #11. Same record, and Nova's best wins are probably us, PC, and Tennessee. Our best wins are Auburn, Nova, and probably Marquette on the road. In any event, our top two wins are against more highly ranked teams than theirs. Is it just a higher early season ranking that's keeping them that much ahead of us?
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In addition to what others said, Nova is 7 and 12 in the NET rankings and Kenpom, respectively and we’re 17 and 19. I’m sure these and other rankings influence voters more than than anything since they can’t watch or know who teams have played and beaten/lost to.
 
Husky Alien said:
Really this does not bother me, however if it was Cuse a whole lot different story.
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Their fans on Twitter play a big part in my hate for them. Along with their recent success aided by good fortune.
 
elmcityboy said:
nova played a gauntlet of a non-conference schedule, which is why they have 7 losses. their resume is definitely better than ours at the moment, although i agree that we are underrated.
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But they pretty much lost to every good noncon team they played. I get it, though. I agree that they're the better team and should be ranked higher. I just don't see how the difference could be more than 3 or 4 spots tops.
 
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WNConn said:
Im curious what most voters would say makes us #18 and Nova #11. Same record, and Nova's best wins are probably us, PC, and Tennessee. Our best wins are Auburn, Nova, and probably Marquette on the road. In any event, our top two wins are against more highly ranked teams than theirs. Is it just a higher early season ranking that's keeping them that much ahead of us?
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Villanova’s losses include UCLA, Baylor and Purdue. They’ve had a much stronger schedule. I think it’s fair, although I’d think we’d be more in the 14-16 range.
 
RayIsTheGOAT said:
Villanova’s losses include UCLA, Baylor and Purdue. They’ve had a much stronger schedule. I think it’s fair, although I’d think we’d be more in the 14-16 range.
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I agree with that. I was hoping to see us at 15. Houston being ahead of us probably bugs me the most. They haven't really beaten anyone...SMU I guess? And they lost two of their only somewhat difficult conference games (SMU and Memphis)
 
WNConn said:
Im curious what most voters would say makes us #18 and Nova #11. Same record, and Nova's best wins are probably us, PC, and Tennessee. Our best wins are Auburn, Nova, and probably Marquette on the road. In any event, our top two wins are against more highly ranked teams than theirs. Is it just a higher early season ranking that's keeping them that much ahead of us?
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Do you not see the irony in your argument that we should be ranked ahead of Nova because our top 2 wins (one of which is vs Nova) are better than their top wins?
 
4xChamps said:
Do you not see the irony in your argument that we should be ranked ahead of Nova because our top 2 wins (one of which is vs Nova) are better than their top wins?
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When did he argue that we should be ahead of Nova?
 
WNConn said:
But they pretty much lost to every good noncon team they played. I get it, though. I agree that they're the better team and should be ranked higher. I just don't see how the difference could be more than 3 or 4 spots tops.
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aburks41 said:
Poll inertia is a real thing so that's part of it, but they also won @ Xavier, @ PC, and @ Seton Hall which more than cancels out our win @ Marq

They played a tough non-con but they also lost all of them except for Tenn. You shouldn't get credit for that if you don't win.
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agreed that you don't get credit for teams you don't beat, but you also don't get dinged for losing AT ucla, AT purdue, and AT baylor. those would be the three toughest games on uconn's schedule. if nova played some random squads at home or at a neutral site, they'd be 24-4 right now.
 
I really don't get how beating Nova, and winning 5 straight, 6/7 has only moved us up to 18.

UCLA hasn't beaten a good team in a month - which obviously Arizona was a good win. But they got swept by Oregon, including this week.

UCLA is #3 in the #6 conference. UConn is #3 in the #3 conference.

Houston is a paper tiger. Haven't beaten anyone good all year.

Would've expected to be at least 15. But it's way more fun to be having these arguments this week.

But w/e. Danny loves to have the chip on his shoulder. I take this poll as disrespect.
 
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elmcityboy said:
agreed that you don't get credit for teams you don't beat, but you also don't get dinged for losing AT ucla, AT purdue, and AT baylor. those would be the three toughest games on uconn's schedule. if nova played some random squads at home or at a neutral site, they'd be 24-4 right now.
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Purdue game was at Mohegan Sun, remember? We were basically there!!

Nova obviously has a better resume than UConn right now, don't think that's much of an argument.
 
elmcityboy said:
agreed that you don't get credit for teams you don't beat, but you also don't get dinged for losing AT ucla, AT purdue, and AT baylor. those would be the three toughest games on uconn's schedule. if nova played some random squads at home or at a neutral site, they'd be 24-4 right now.
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Purdue was neutral, but you should absolutely get dinged for only scoring 36 points.
 
So we passed Illinois, Texas, and Murray State, didn't leapfrog anyone else in front of us, and avoided getting leapfrogged by St. Mary's.

Fairly status-quo result.
 
Poe said:
In addition to what others said, Nova is 7 and 12 in the NET rankings and Kenpom, respectively and we’re 17 and 19. I’m sure these and other rankings influence voters more than than anything since they can’t watch or know who teams have played and beaten/lost to.
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You mean...they can't go online and check?
 
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Not much to complain about. 3 7 loss teams above us. Villanova deserves to be. TT should be as well, despite a bad loss to TCU. Tennessee has an inflated win over UNC when they were ranked, and a win over Arizona. I think they should be lower, but they just beat Auburn. I don't think the AP voters consider anything like UConn losing games without Sanogo, Whaley or Martin.
 
NJHusky said:
You mean...they can't go online and check?
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No, that’s not what I mean. They can go and check. Whether they’re diving into the schedules of every team and comparing every team to each other for a weekly ranking, when they can rely on third parties that do that already, who knows.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Not much to complain about. 3 7 loss teams above us. Villanova deserves to be. TT should be as well, despite a bad loss to TCU. Tennessee has an inflated win over UNC when they were ranked, and a win over Arizona. I think they should be lower, but they just beat Auburn. I don't think the AP voters consider anything like UConn losing games without Sanogo, Whaley or Martin.
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Yeah I agree. I don't think the argument is that we should be ahead of Nova, just maybe a few spots higher up than we are.

The Houston ranking is puzzling. They're basically a mid-major this year. 0-3 in Q1. (Thank God we got out of the AAC).

I'm also curious if the AP ranking bleeds into the committee decisions when they are doing seeding. It would be nice to be going into MSG having won 6/7 and having a ranking in the top 15 - hoping that gets us out of the 12/5 game.
 
Is providence going to be dogs in every tourney game they play? Their only other regular season game is at Villanova. They may lose out lol
 
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