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HuskyHawk said:
This is all I meant really. I don’t consider making small change playing to be a very astute move for a guy who can probably do better in some other endeavor.
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TIL - Making the median household income and more than the average starting salary of a 2019 UConn UG from business school is "small change"
 
bigknight3 said:
60-80K right out of college without taxes or room and board while getting to travel and see the world is the opposite of small change...
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It’s fine.

But there’s not a ton of those spots and it’s not easy to get them.

If the NBA draft was unlimited, where would Polley go? 200th? Now factor in the rest of the world and don’t confine it to one yearly crop of players.

I think Tyrese is going to play in the G League next year. I think Cole will have a ton of options overseas. Polley and Whaley are going to have to scramble.
 
polycom said:
TIL - Making the median household income and more than the average starting salary of a 2019 UConn UG from business school is "small change"
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You proved the point I was making. His basketball earning potential doesn't really exceed his non-basketball earning potential. The non-basketball route has a much higher chance that it turns into a career where his earnings grow. He has a degree and a year of grad school. If he can find a job playing ball in Spain or Italy or something, great. It would be a nice experience I'm sure. Jay Bilas did that too, before going to law school. One of my law school classmates played on the 1988 championship team. Most college athletes, even at this level, don't pursue a career in the sport.

In my first post (earning many dislikes) I said I don't think he has a future career playing ball. Meaning, even if he can do it for a couple of years, it's not a path with much long term future. I don't think that's harsh or controversial. I wished him well in whatever he does.
 
HuskyHawk said:
You proved the point I was making. His basketball earning potential doesn't really exceed his non-basketball earning potential. The non-basketball route has a much higher chance that it turns into a career where his earnings grow. He has a degree and a year of grad school. If he can find a job playing ball in Spain or Italy or something, great. It would be a nice experience I'm sure. Jay Bilas did that too, before going to law school. One of my law school classmates played on the 1988 championship team. Most college athletes, even at this level, don't pursue a career in the sport.

In my first post (earning many dislikes) I said I don't think he has a future career playing ball. Meaning, even if he can do it for a couple of years, it's not a path with much long term future. I don't think that's harsh or controversial. I wished him well in whatever he does.
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No I'm pretty sure polycom was being sarcastic and disproved your point. If he could make that much (tax free and not pay room and board) that definitely exceeds his average earning potential right out of college. And you say that he could do that for only a couple of years...

He could do that for 10 years and still be exceeding the average earning potential.

How much do you think people make right out of college? And then subtract how much the lose paying taxes, meals, and rent/mortgage...

He signed with an agent so someone thinks there's a market for his services.
 
HuskyHawk said:
This is all I meant really. I don’t consider making small change playing to be a very astute move for a guy who can probably do better in some other endeavor.
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If I’m him, I play basketball for a living.

He’s a young dude; plenty of time to get a desk job. Also, he’s the kinda guy I could see resurfacing somewhere as a graduate assistant. Bright dude.
 
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bigknight3 said:
No I'm pretty sure polycom was being sarcastic and disproved your point. If he could make that much (tax free and not pay room and board) that definitely exceeds his average earning potential right out of college. And you say that he could do that for only a couple of years...

He could do that for 10 years and still be exceeding the average earning potential.

How much do you think people make right out of college? And then subtract how much the lose paying taxes, meals, and rent/mortgage...

He signed with an agent so someone thinks there's a market for his services.
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Not more than the average college grad (and perhaps with a masters). But it doesn't matter. A few years from now, let alone 10, is no longer "right out of college". And they do have taxes in Europe.
 
HuskyHawk said:
You proved the point I was making. His basketball earning potential doesn't really exceed his non-basketball earning potential. The non-basketball route has a much higher chance that it turns into a career where his earnings grow. He has a degree and a year of grad school. If he can find a job playing ball in Spain or Italy or something, great. It would be a nice experience I'm sure. Jay Bilas did that too, before going to law school. One of my law school classmates played on the 1988 championship team. Most college athletes, even at this level, don't pursue a career in the sport.

In my first post (earning many dislikes) I said I don't think he has a future career playing ball. Meaning, even if he can do it for a couple of years, it's not a path with much long term future. I don't think that's harsh or controversial. I wished him well in whatever he does.
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Yeah my post went over your head, so I'll try a different route. Considering the average NBA career is 4.5 years, if he plays overseas for that amount of time he would have a career playing basketball...really even if it's a shorter amount of time but I digress. Secondly you are missing the part of about if you play for teams overseas they pay your taxes, room and board which (you seem like a smart guy and can figure out) is significantly more than someone graduating college college and getting a silly email job making the same amount.

Also, people with email jobs love hiring ex-athletes so it really is just another checkmark on his resume so really there is no downside for him here, unless he were to die(?) playing basketball.

The way you are thinking about this is a bit odd and you're dismissing the amount of players who were much worse who make a living in one of the many leagues around the world. If you were a D1 player who played significant minutes you can play overseas if you want, it'll just take work.
 
polycom said:
Yeah my post went over your head, so I'll try a different route. Considering the average NBA career is 4.5 years, if he plays overseas for that amount of time he would have a career playing basketball...really even if it's a shorter amount of time but I digress. Secondly you are missing the part of about if you play for teams overseas they pay your taxes, room and board which (you seem like a smart guy and can figure out) is significantly more than someone graduating college college and getting a silly email job making the same amount.

Also, people with email jobs love hiring ex-athletes so it really is just another checkmark on his resume so really there is no downside for him here, unless he were to die(?) playing basketball.

The way you are thinking about this is a bit odd and you're dismissing the amount of players who were much worse who make a living in one of the many leagues around the world. If you were a D1 player who played significant minutes you can play overseas if you want, it'll just take work.
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Thank you... ‍
 
polycom said:
Yeah my post went over your head, so I'll try a different route. Considering the average NBA career is 4.5 years, if he plays overseas for that amount of time he would have a career playing basketball...really even if it's a shorter amount of time but I digress. Secondly you are missing the part of about if you play for teams overseas they pay your taxes, room and board which (you seem like a smart guy and can figure out) is significantly more than someone graduating college college and getting a silly email job making the same amount.

Also, people with email jobs love hiring ex-athletes so it really is just another checkmark on his resume so really there is no downside for him here, unless he were to die(?) playing basketball.

The way you are thinking about this is a bit odd and you're dismissing the amount of players who were much worse who make a living in one of the many leagues around the world. If you were a D1 player who played significant minutes you can play overseas if you want, it'll just take work.
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The lengths to which a normally pretty good poster will go to try to credit a player is exceptionally weird. And that's weird in a community of people weird enough to post on a message board about college basketball every day. We're already at an 8/10 on the weird scale on average, and Hawk is pushing a 14/10 with the Polley hate.
 
Fishy said:
It’s fine.

But there’s not a ton of those spots and it’s not easy to get them.

If the NBA draft was unlimited, where would Polley go? 200th? Now factor in the rest of the world and don’t confine it to one yearly crop of players.

I think Tyrese is going to play in the G League next year. I think Cole will have a ton of options overseas. Polley and Whaley are going to have to scramble.
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Whaley will excel if he lands in a Japanese league. His game is a perfect fit for a 5 there.
 
husky429 said:
The lengths to which a normally pretty good poster will go to try to credit a player is exceptionally weird. And that's weird in a community of people weird enough to post on a message board about college basketball every day. We're already at an 8/10 on the weird scale on average, and Hawk is pushing a 14/10 with the Polley hate.
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I don't hate him at all. He gave five years to UConn basketball, some during very lean times. He bleeds blue. Why would I or any of us dislike him? I wish him nothing but the best. I'd be thrilled if he's massively successful playing pro ball. Or as a coach. I just don't think he's as good a player as many of you seem to. Nothing more to it than that.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
I don't hate him at all. He gave five years to UConn basketball, some during very lean times. He bleeds blue. Why would I or any of us dislike him? I wish him nothing but the best. I'd be thrilled if he's massively successful playing pro ball. Or as a coach. I just don't think he's as good a player as many of you seem to. Nothing more to it than that.
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I think you're just massively out of touch with the level of skill required to play basketball overseas. We have multiple walk ons playing professional basketball and I think even you would have to agree Tyler Polley has more talent than that
 
Shamon30 said:
Whaley will excel if he lands in a Japanese league. His game is a perfect fit for a 5 there.
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Gavin Edwards has had a hell of a good life playing basketball there.
 
gsmooth said:
where did Boo Willingham play? He hardly got any play when he was at UConn.
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I know he played in Mexico and Saudi Arabia. I think maybe 2 or 3 other countries as well.
 
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bigknight3 said:
60-80K right out of college without taxes or room and board while getting to travel and see the world is the opposite of small change...
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If Polley is a U.S. citizen, then he does not escape taxes. Doesn't matter where he plays. Nice fantasy though.
 
The Yakk said:
If Polley is a U.S. citizen, then he does not escape taxes. Doesn't matter where he plays. Nice fantasy though.
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Per IRS:

"If you are a U.S. citizen or a resident alien of the United States and you live abroad, you are taxed on your worldwide income. However, you may qualify to exclude your foreign earnings from income up to an amount that is adjusted annually for inflation ($105,900 for 2019, $107,600 for 2020, $108,700 for 2021, and $112,000 for 2022). In addition, you can exclude or deduct certain foreign housing amounts."
 
Husky68 said:
Per IRS:

"If you are a U.S. citizen or a resident alien of the United States and you live abroad, you are taxed on your worldwide income. However, you may qualify to exclude your foreign earnings from income up to an amount that is adjusted annually for inflation ($105,900 for 2019, $107,600 for 2020, $108,700 for 2021, and $112,000 for 2022). In addition, you can exclude or deduct certain foreign housing amounts."
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Yes but you are taxed in the country where you earn the money as well. You do get a foreign tax credit against US Income taxes on the foreign taxes paid. In any event, there is no free ride.

www.hrblock.com

Taxes for U.S. Citizens Living Abroad: What You Should Know

U.S. citizens living abroad still may have a U.S. tax obligation. Learn the basics behind U.S. expat tax rules and requirements to file.
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Everyone is missing the point with all these arguments about taxes. Yes, you still have to pay taxes if you play in Europe. The point is that part of the contract for an American player playing in Europe is the team pays the taxes
 
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