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I haven't found anything in the news and nothing was concluded during the game broadcast. I hope he's just shaken up.
 
He is in concussion protocol. I don’t know enough about the hurdles that have to be met to be cleared. It almost looked like he got knocked out when his head hit the floor. But then he got up and later returned to the bench. I think those are good signs but usually it takes at least a week to clear all the protocols but that is a guess.
 
He is in concussion protocol. I don’t know enough about the hurdles that have to be met to be cleared. It almost looked like he got knocked out when his head hit the floor. But then he got up and later returned to the bench. I think those are good signs but usually it takes at least a week to clear all the protocols but that is a guess.
I find it very interesting (and a positive sign) they let him back on the bench.
 
Here is what Hurley said after the game.

“He is going to go in the (concussion) protocol,” Hurley said. “He was screaming at the end of the bench, ‘I’m good, I’m back’ but we’ve just got to see where it goes from here. But he’s definitely in the protocol now. And it’s a shame, because he started that game in just electrifying fashion… Offensively, we were humming when he was in the game."

I don't know how quickly you can get through the steps in the concussion protocol. I'd guess there's no way he plays against Xavier this Wednesday no matter how good he feels. Maybe there's a chance on Saturday at Butler but I would assume they will err on the side of caution and keep him out until at DePaul on New Year's Day.
 
Anyone else have flashbacks to Polley?

With everyone crushing him for standing at the 3 pt line his whole career, out of the blue he played out of his mind one game all over the floor and then promptly injured his knee I believe the following practice and was out for the year

SJ started playing out of his mind and then was layed out on the floor. I cringed
 
I guess no good deed goes unpunished.

Hopefully, he gets back soon, and continues his energy/synergy surge with quick flashes to the basket.

Good new skill set. Excited to see it develop further and add a new weapon to his arsenal.
 
I'm not sure what UConn does, but generally, athletes establish a baseline before the season starts to use if an athlete becomes concussed. That helps determine the concussion protocol.
 
He looked like he was shot out of a cannon to start the game yesterday. Hopefully he’s out just one game.
He's unbelievably athletic and the lob game has really been clicking with him lately.
 
He is in concussion protocol. I don’t know enough about the hurdles that have to be met to be cleared. It almost looked like he got knocked out when his head hit the floor. But then he got up and later returned to the bench. I think those are good signs but usually it takes at least a week to clear all the protocols but that is a guess.

It is usually 7 days. Could be more depending on severity but that’s the minimum.
 
In my totally unprofessional and uninformed opinion, his injury looked worse than Alex's. I'm going with two weeks
 
Return-to-Sport Management --

Unrestricted return-to-sport should not occur prior to unrestricted return-to-learn for concussions diagnosed while the student-athlete is enrolled in classes. Complete rest and isolation should be avoided, even for initial 24-48 hours. Relative rest is important in the first 24 hours. Final determination of unrestricted return-to-sport will be made by a  (School Name)  team physician or their medically qualified designee following implementation of an individualized, supervised stepwise progression management plan that includes: 

Step 1. Symptom-limited activities of daily living.

Step 2. Aerobic exercise with light resistance training as tolerated [no more than mild or brief (<1 hour) exacerbation of symptoms].


2a. Light (up to approximately 55% maximum heart rate); then

2b. Moderate (up to approximately 70% maximum heart rate).

Step 3. Individual sport-specific exercise and activity without any increased risk of inadvertent head impact exposure.

Proceed to step 4 only after resolution of signs and symptoms related to the current concussion, including with and after physical exertion.

Step 4. Non-contact practice with progressive resistance training.

Step 5. Unrestricted practice or training.

Step 6. Unrestricted return-to-sport.
 
Return-to-Sport Management --

Unrestricted return-to-sport should not occur prior to unrestricted return-to-learn for concussions diagnosed while the student-athlete is enrolled in classes. Complete rest and isolation should be avoided, even for initial 24-48 hours. Relative rest is important in the first 24 hours. Final determination of unrestricted return-to-sport will be made by a  (School Name)  team physician or their medically qualified designee following implementation of an individualized, supervised stepwise progression management plan that includes: 

Step 1. Symptom-limited activities of daily living.

Step 2. Aerobic exercise with light resistance training as tolerated [no more than mild or brief (<1 hour) exacerbation of symptoms].


2a. Light (up to approximately 55% maximum heart rate); then

2b. Moderate (up to approximately 70% maximum heart rate).

Step 3. Individual sport-specific exercise and activity without any increased risk of inadvertent head impact exposure.

Proceed to step 4 only after resolution of signs and symptoms related to the current concussion, including with and after physical exertion.

Step 4. Non-contact practice with progressive resistance training.

Step 5. Unrestricted practice or training.

Step 6. Unrestricted return-to-sport.
Yeah that sounds and reads like at least a week……
 
Yeah that sounds and reads like at least a week……
It could be less than a week. You could go through steps 1-4 in a couple of days. But the normal progression is up to two weeks. This is just from my reading of the NCAA literature.
 
Anyone else have flashbacks to Polley?

With everyone crushing him for standing at the 3 pt line his whole career, out of the blue he played out of his mind one game all over the floor and then promptly injured his knee I believe the following practice and was out for the year

Samson Johnson started playing out of his mind and then was layed out on the floor. I cringed
Yeah, flashback to Polley for sure - I was at that end of the garden and man he went down hard. Stewart had to step over him and it took seemingly 2 minutes for the refs to realize what happened as we were 4 on 5 at the other end before whistles blew.

He was absolutely unconscious on the floor.

Concussion protocol with the NCAA is here: Concussion Safety Protocol Management

Not sure it's 1:1 with the NFL's who has the most concussions and we see them play out, but that is a weekly sport so makes sense.
 
In my totally unprofessional and uninformed opinion, his injury looked worse than Alex's. I'm going with two weeks
Did Alex return to the bench during the game? He also had to travel home separately. so while samsons looked worse, in my totally unprofessional and uninformed opinion maybe it wasn’t
 
It’s funny because I feel like early injuries have actually helped this team as it’s given other players a chance to step up. Last year with Steph and Don, this year with AK. Builds resilience.
 
This could be a blessing in disguise for the team by getting Singare more playing time this week.
 
It’s funny because I feel like early injuries have actually helped this team as it’s given other players a chance to step up. Last year with Steph and Don, this year with AK. Builds resilience.
Last year we got some Johnson for Clingan, some Ball for Castle, but that was experience building.

With AK in concussion protocol we just got more Stew and that was seemingly a way for a bench guy to earn minutes is all, somewhat akin to last year.

With Johnson in the concussion protocol, I expect Reed, Jr. to start vs Xavier and I would wager 1/2+ of the yard want this lineup changed since Reed, Jr. can create his own shot, while Johnson needs a facilitator for rim rocking. Let them double-team Reed, Jr. down low, and leave any of Liam, AK, Ball, or Haas open outside? Would not see that with Johnson.
 
Did Alex return to the bench during the game? He also had to travel home separately. so while samsons looked worse, in my totally unprofessional and uninformed opinion maybe it wasn’t
Karaban traveled home with the team. Also, he stayed in the game and shot his free throws after getting fouled and hitting his head.

The Huskies’ star forward and captain went down hard as he was fouled on a layup attempt with about two and a half minutes left in the 85-67 defeat. His head hit the court and he sat shaken up for a moment before stepping to the free throw line, where he made both of his shots. He didn’t exit the game until there were 36 seconds left.

Karaban was cleared just before the flight back to Connecticut late Wednesday night and was able to return with his team.


 
Karaban traveled home with the team. Also, he stayed in the game and shot his free throws after getting fouled and hitting his head.

The Huskies’ star forward and captain went down hard as he was fouled on a layup attempt with about two and a half minutes left in the 85-67 defeat. His head hit the court and he sat shaken up for a moment before stepping to the free throw line, where he made both of his shots. He didn’t exit the game until there were 36 seconds left.

Karaban was cleared just before the flight back to Connecticut late Wednesday night and was able to return with his team.


But AK never lost consciousness, while Johnson did. NCAA protocol is clear on unresponsiveness/unconsciousness.
 
Did Alex return to the bench during the game? He also had to travel home separately. so while samsons looked worse, in my totally unprofessional and uninformed opinion maybe it wasn’t
Alex actually played some after. And he traveled home with the team
 
Alex actually played some after. And he traveled home with the team
were you in such a rush to correct someone that you didnt bother reading the post directly succeeding mine and preceding yours?
 
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