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Legitimate question... how much of the "gates open" time is a function of a "UConn decision" versus a State property/East Hartford P & Z agreement (similar to decibel level restriction)? I'm still looking for details when approved but figured an East Harford denizen might now.


its the state and the management of the facility. not uconn. which is my point. i would love to rant about how we should buy the rent etc etc. BUT on a serious note, the state just committed 2 billion to uconn for x y and z. how is it that we can not as a school get the gates open earlier? is it a phone call some 1 is to lazy to make? is it a law in the town that you can't tailgate or what is it. find out the reason and tell the media so the fans know why. if its a pushable thing then let the fans put pressure do it from there. if its some crazy thing like tailgating more than 4 hours before a game will kill all the baby seals in the world then at least the fans know and we can focus on something else. is the management cheap? is the state cheap? what is it? the lots should be open from friday at 5pm to sunday at noon. end of dam story.

the bottom line is u need to pressure ppl. bitching doesn't get it done. so im not tailgating this year at all because im not going to games. if others did this then eventually uconn will wonder why its lots are empty.
 

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No no don't get me wrong, I completely understand your POV. My point is who in their right mind thinks the boneyard being a bunch of noisy asshats is going to make your dream suddenly come to fruition. Grow up Peter Pan. People like us don't just change things, we're just fans. There is literally no chance anyone would listen to us even if you want to think they would. Just won't happen.

The leadership might suck (probably does in a select group, although like you say I have more investment in the whole university so I generally differ on your view of Herbst). But they are the ones who make the changes, not us. We (in our community here on the haterblog) have ZERO impact on if they get substituted so why waste so much energy thinking that we do? Your an idealist, and that's not a terrible quality, but that should be tempered with a bit of pragmatism. Any credibility which you might have had where people would listen is at this point (to pull a JC) "quite frankly" shattered. If we all hop on your obnoxious bandwagon, don't we subject ourselves to the same?

That's not necessarily true. Many here, including me, were screaming from the mountaintops to get rid of Coach Pasqualoni. Manuel did not do this, but he did force change of the offensive coordinator. I have to think that talking to fans played at least a roll in that.

However, the powers-that-be do not listen to a spattering of individuals, least of all individuals who carry on like FanDan (It's getting harder to, in good conscience, continue to include "Husky" in his moniker, unless I include U-Dub or NU at the beginning. He might be a fan, but not of the Huskies from UConn.). There is just so many times someone can hear or read that they, "don't get it," especially from someone who chooses to communicate so poorly in the native language of the land...
 

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Legitimate question... how much of the "gates open" time is a function of a "UConn decision" versus a State property/East Hartford P & Z agreement (similar to decibel level restriction)? I'm still looking for details when approved but figured an East Harford denizen might now.

I believe the official reason is security as related to Pratt.
 

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It might get the people who should be in their seats in their seats prior to kick off but likely not.

I already get up at 6:00 to be in the parking lot about 7:45 for a Noon game. I am probably representative of thousands of others and I am not getting up any earlier just have another Bloody Mary in the parking lot.

But for a 3:30 or later kickoff, (and for RV's always), parking lots should be open earlier, as much as 24-48 hours for RV's.
 

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Legitimate question... how much of the "gates open" time is a function of a "UConn decision" versus a State property/East Hartford P & Z agreement (similar to decibel level restriction)? I'm still looking for details when approved but figured an East Harford denizen might now.

Speculation of course, but a couple reasons that RV's are not allowed in early are: 1) The state is on the hook for extra security. 2) Rentschler is not a true RV camp site with the infrastructure for utilities and waste disposal.
 

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Whatever the reason, it's one of the low hanging fruit that should be a no brainer to invest in.
 
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its the state and the management of the facility. not uconn. which is my point. i would love to rant about how we should buy the rent etc etc. BUT on a serious note, the state just committed 2 billion to uconn for x y and z. how is it that we can not as a school get the gates open earlier? is it a phone call some 1 is to lazy to make? is it a law in the town that you can't tailgate or what is it. find out the reason and tell the media so the fans know why. if its a pushable thing then let the fans put pressure do it from there. if its some crazy thing like tailgating more than 4 hours before a game will kill all the baby seals in the world then at least the fans know and we can focus on something else. is the management cheap? is the state cheap? what is it? the lots should be open from friday at 5pm to sunday at noon. end of dam story.

the bottom line is u need to pressure ppl. bitching doesn't get it done. so im not tailgating this year at all because im not going to games. if others did this then eventually uconn will wonder why its lots are empty.

It was the deal the State cut with Pratt & Whitney when they were given the land for free. Maybe the state should have threatened not to take it for free if it didn't come with less restrictions.
 
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Right. Which is why I try to spend time with ANY high ranking person in the University that I can. And when I do, I let them know about things I like and don't like. If everyone does so, change will happen.

BTW - any of you coming to the event at the Public House in NYC tomorrow?

I'm in the city but unaware o the event. Can you share details? Thanks,
 

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It was the deal the State cut with Pratt & Whitney when they were given the land for free. Maybe the state should have threatened not to take it for free if it didn't come with less restrictions.
No, but it wouldn't hurt to have a conversation along the lines of : "if we invest in proper infrastructure and security improvements- how amenable would you be to expanded hours for limited events?"
 

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Legitimate question... how much of the "gates open" time is a function of a "UConn decision" versus a State property/East Hartford P & Z agreement (similar to decibel level restriction)? I'm still looking for details when approved but figured an East Harford denizen might now.

Lot opening time is about OT for the parking lot staff, and not much else. Do the math.

4+3+1=8. Stagger half the shift by an hour each way and bingo. No OT.

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Lot opening time is about OT for the parking lot staff, and not much else. Do the math.

4+3+1=8. Stagger half the shift by an hour each way and bingo. No OT.

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Well in theory, They are working on Saturday. They get time x1.5 anyway. ;)
 
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Lot opening time is about OT for the parking lot staff, and not much else. Do the math.

4+3+1=8. Stagger half the shift by an hour each way and bingo. No OT.

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Sorry, not convinced it's an only a OT/$$ issue. I get the Pratt security issue. There is a decibel level restriction in place currently and I thought there were other concessions made @ the time for the residential neighbors. Could be wrong, but hours of operation were in the mix. Gonna keep looking.
 
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I'm in the city but unaware o the event. Can you share details? Thanks,

It's the Communications / Media / PR networking event. At the Public House on E41st. 6:30. They say they are allowing walk-ins.
 

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Being more flexible with the lots is one thing. Noon on Sunday? So 8 wierdos in RVs can camp in East Hartford?

It's those weirdos that make a programs fan base. That we only have 8 is the problem.


Speculation of course, but a couple reasons that RV's are not allowed in early are: 1) The state is on the hook for extra security. 2) Rentschler is not a true RV camp site with the infrastructure for utilities and waste disposal.

At other schools they park in bare fields with a few portajohns. Or at WalMart. Security adjacent to a defense contractor is a legit issue.

Whatever the reason, it's one of the low hanging fruit that should be a no brainer to invest in.

The lowest, no-brainiest. Lots should open at 7 for a noon game, 9 for 3:30, and noon for night games.

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Sorry, not convinced it's an only a OT/ issue. I get the Pratt security issue. There is a decibel level restriction in place currently and I thought there were other concessions made @ the time for the residential neighbors. Could be wrong, but hours of operation were in the mix. Gonna keep looking.
I doubt there is still a Pratt security issue. The buildings closest to the Rent are now surrounded by fencing. When there is an event certain gates are closed. This didn't exist when the Rent first opened so it may have been an issue back then. I doubt Pratt would object to changing the rule if asked.
 

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It's those weirdos that make a programs fan base. That we only have 8 is the problem.




At other schools they park in bare fields with a few portajohns. Or at WalMart. Security adjacent to a defense contractor is a legit issue.



The lowest, no-brainiest. Lots should open at 7 for a noon game, 9 for 3:30, and noon for night games.

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First of all our fanbase is local. They aren't driving 6 hours across Nebraska. 95% of the fans have to come from within an hour.

Secondly they park on or near campuses. You know with actual people and things to do nearby.

There is nothing you can walk to besides Cabella's in East Hartford. Who in their right mind would sleep there?
 

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The lowest, no-brainiest. Lots should open at 7 for a noon game, 9 for 3:30, and noon for night games.

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I'm with you for 3:30 and night games. I just don't see a need for the extra hour before a noon game, unless its an RV.

The lots unofficially open before 8:00 as it is. We've entered prior to 8:00 and a full row is already parked, tents are up and grills are lit and set up prior upon our arrival. I'm not talking about just recently pushed the ignition button. I mean people are already filling their breakfast tortilla.
 
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There is no problem with a lot full of 100,000 dollar rv s. it's not cousin eddy and his steel plate in his head coming
 
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But if they open up at 7 who will get there before then to set up all those pretty orange cones? You're simply not thinking.

There are signs on Alabama's campus that read, "no parking on green before noon on Thursday." They do not alter that based on whether kickoff is at 230 or 8.
 

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But if they open up at 7 who will get there before then to set up all those pretty orange cones? You're simply not thinking.

There are signs on Alabama's campus that read, "no parking on green before noon on Thursday." They do not alter that based on whether kickoff is at 230 or 8.

Alabama is a state of 4.8 Million people spread over 50,000 sq miles.

Connecticut is a state of 3.5 Million crammed into 4800, sq. miles.

I believe it is a decent assumption that the number of 5th wheel trailers emulates the land area rather than population as well. :p
 
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With 2 of my kids at wvu and tosu I am able to attend at least 1 game at each campus yearly. Football games are a weekend long event with a large majority of fans. These fan bases are multi-generational and if staying in an rv or in a hotel, they get there the day before. It is hard enough that we have an off campus stadium but the inability have extended rv and tailgaiting makes us look small time to other large universities. This is a problem we need to address asap.
 

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No, but it wouldn't hurt to have a conversation along the lines of : "if we invest in proper infrastructure and security improvements- how amenable would you be to expanded hours for limited events?"
I bet this conversation might have happened already and P&W wasn't convinced. If it didn't happen, it might the case that UConn wants the conversation to happen but the State (who would be the ones doing the improvements) has other priorities.
 
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